What are your neuro sides? How long has it been. Apologize if you have a memeber story
I took fin 20 years. I had increasing insomnia, irritability and anxiety in the last 5, plus headaches and stomach ache, gastric reflux almost everyday… but especially insomnia.
After I crashed I had all of that and more multiplied by 10. I couldn’t even lie down, gastric reflux was so bad my stomach would empty into my throat and I would choke. I had to put pillow and try to sleep at an angle. But it lasted only a month a half because I went on the diet at that time. The diet eliminated all neurological symptoms, plus headache and stomach ache in three days, except insomnia.
I also exercise and take lots of supplement but the diet is the single thing that helped me the most.
In the first 4 months I couldn’t cheat at all. 3 peanuts gave me 3 hours of anxiety, 2 chocolate truffle gave me 3 days. But after 7 months, my body changed and I can cheat with anything: ice cream, pancakes, Burger King, pizza etc…
If I cheat in the morning and spend my day burning lots of energy, I may be fine. But if I cheat in too large quantities of carbs or for too long and stay in front of my computer, sleep degrades, headaches stomach ache and anxiety come back.
So I stay on my diet when I’m at home on my daily routine, and cheat when I go to restaurants with friends. I choose the plate with the most meat, less carbs, and I’m fine. I don’t drink shit like Coke and Sprite. Only water.
I believe there will come a time when I can eat normally, but to tell the truth, I’m 51 and I lost my belly pot for a six pack, can climb a rope using my arms only and I’m still exploring the possibilities of this new body. It’s like being 28 again. I won’t trade that for ice cream.
So only insomnia remains and I receive Sulforaphane on Monday, along with Creatine, Tribulus Terrestris and Boron. I’ll be able to play with my 3a-HSD and 5ar levels and adjust as needed.
Let’s see what happens. I’ll keep you posted on this thread and on my regular thread Amino Acid For neurological symptoms
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yeah i made one and you replied in it.
emotional blunting, lack of ability to be “present”, short term memory, slight derealization, sometimes insomnia.
Apologies - brain fog I guess. I have the “being present” symtoms a lot. It also provents from being able to picture the future or picture how I feel in certain situations.
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Have you tried aminos to fix it ? I mean both of you ?
Ok. To day I start Day 1 of Sulforaphane experiment to boost 3a-HSD and try to get some ALLO pumping.
Considering 3a-HSD also destroys DHT, I’m taking Boron 3 mg, Creatine and cycling herbs to boost testosterone and 5ar.
I’m starting to load up of Creatine today. 3th of March: 12 gr for 10 days after which I will do a maintenance dose of 3 gr a day.
The herbs I’m using are Pine Pollen, Horny Goat Weed and Tribulus Terrestris. I cycle every week, taking half dose on first and second day, full dose on day 3,4 and 5, half dose on day 6 and no dose on day 7. Then I move to the next herb.
As for Sulforaphane, I’ll start with 10mg, which is 5 drops of the Liposomal solution I bought, and I’ll increase the dose by 2 drops a day. After a week, I’ll be at 22 mg and after 2 weeks at 36 mg and at 50 mg after 3 weeks. I may remain at 50 mg for a while or increase depending what effects I get from all of this.
This should throw me off homeostasis, for better or for worst. I’ll post as often as I have time and duplicate my posts on Suppressed 3a-hydroxysteroid may be the cause?, Amino Acid For neurological symptoms and Ozeph Regimen and Supplement
Wish me luck !
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I totally agree. I’m putting all my efforts at boosting 3a-HSD production.
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i was trying certain things but 5HTP made my emotional blunting permanently worse so then I just stopped everything
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I take every amino you reccemneded :(. No disrespect and I’m not trying to downplay other’s problems, but I am experiencing a type of brain fog that I believe is different from most. In fact my cognition and memory and fine, but I’m literally living life like I’m on some sort of lsd drug. And I’m not exaggerating. It’s as if I’m in the matrix and my brain cannot process what my eyes are seeing. I also have this constant feeling of not being able to “settle” into my body. All while I have what feels like the worst head cold. I describe it like a 24/7 extreme runners high. Like when you go an an exhausting hike and everything around you seems distant and slow. It’s a complete shift in consciousness. Similar folks describe the same thing who have brain damage for illegal drugs like lsd and mdma. It’s also been 9 months for me without a single day of clarity. Every day is pretty much the same.
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Stay away from 5-htp. I have CFS, PSSD and prostatitis due to 5-htp. We already have too much serotonin in our body. Better not to play with it.
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Everyone has to find what works for him. My advise is to increase slowly when you try something new and stop if it makes you feel bad, or reduced it if it first made you feel good then you increased and now you feel bad, in which case you may also have to stop.
Many amino acids deplete another one. So they have to be taken in combination.
@lakehouse: 5-HTP depletes L-Dopa which is responsible for good mood. They have to be taken together and along with Tyrosine. Do you or did you take L-Dopa ?
@Mcbbould you should choose to stop or reduce, or change the balance of what you’re taking. Did you take Tyrosine ? Usually works good on brain fog. Too much of it can deplete Phenylalanine which can also be taken. I don’t take it, it makes me feel bad.
@Rb26dett in your case, you definitely have too much serotonin. You took 5-HTP while still having SSRI in your body. You increased serotonin without the ability to eliminate it and ended up overflowing your body with serotonin. 5-HTP is not for you. Those who took fin have more of a problem with 5ar, 3a-HSD, the transformation of DHT into 3a-diol-g and the transformation of Progesterone into Allopregnanolone which regulates the GABA receptors. Many end up with hypogonadism.
I will continue to document what I’m doing. But it doesn’t mean doing the exact same thing will bear the same result. After the crash, for many of us, our bodies we unstable and the hormone balances shifted all the time until the body found the least uncomfortable compromise and stabilized that way. Most of us are in a different state. Considering this, taking the same aminos I take will make some people feel worst.
In my opinion, the amino acid supplements are just complementary to the ketogenic / carnivore diet. The diet is the main cure. Saturating your body will all amino acids present in meat and protein shakes makes it difficult to lack one. Saturated fat provides all you need to fix the brain and the CNS and gives material to make hormones with (as well as a better source of energy than carbs). Cutting carbs to less than 20 gr a day prevents food allergies, inflammation and if not taking too much protein, can begin the process of autophagy which eliminates sick cells and replace them with healthy ones just like fasting do.
My opinion is based on my own experience and other people’s testimonies. I’m not a doctor. As a matter of fact, my job has nothing to do with that, I just happen to have a background in chemistry and biology. I’m writing here mostly to document what I’m doing and the result of it. I hope it will inspire people to be pro-active and take an overall, natural approach instead of trying one or two things at a time.
I do wish the best to all of us.
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correct me if im wrong OP. So youre saying supplementing glycine to up 5AR is coupled well with something that boosts 3a-HSD because itll produce an equilibirum that produces allopreg? compared to supplementing glycine or something that incrases 3aHSD by itself
Also supplementing glycine for a long time hasnt done any negative for me? is this because its used for many processes ? how long can i supplement glycine (1g before bed)?
Thanks! I also notice my temporal veins bulge like crazy now. Especially when my headache/pressure is bad. Anyone else notice this?
While I don’t intend to dampen enthusiasm, but this is all ‘bro-Science’. All speculation. No evidence. The human body is a complex machine. Making it sound like its a matter of tuning a car, or optimising software is a dangerous notion. The human body is supremely complex and we know very little about how the thousands of processes interrelate. The tendency of people who keep trying to ‘tweak’ their homeostasis by taking 10+ supplements simultaneously to speculate on the instantaneous chemical balance of their bodies, and use it to explain why they are feeling marginally better or worse are barking up the wrong tree big time. And to expect to improve a complex condition we don’t even understand through this childish play?
A little humility, please!
It’s hard enough to treat medical conditions we understand thoroughly with cutting-edge medicine.
I encourage members new and old to wait until more research is conducted and published before wasting precious money on nonsensical hocus-pocus.
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You believe in scientists and doctors, I don’t. I’m a business man and I know if a cure cannot be patented, it’s thrown to the trash even if it works.
The best treatment to patent is something that doesn’t cure but eliminates symptoms for as long as you take it, making you take it for life. That’s what pharmaceuticals are after.
You 're allowed to your opinion and so am I. I’ll continue my hocus-pocus. So far it has resulted in more progress for me than I have read any doctor achieve. I’m 98% symptom free and in better shape than in the last 20 years. That’s evidence, not speculation. Can you show me evidence of a doctor achieving this much ?
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You get Glycine in much larger quantities in your food. It’s 30% of collagen which is the most abundant protein in the body.
I’m also taking 1 gr a day before sleep. I don’t think it does much but It doesn’t hurt either.
Here’s the formula to produce ALLO:
Ps: I’m being told by the system I’m writing too much on this thread. So ironically, if you want to know if supressed 3a-HSD may be the cause of our symptoms, you’ll have to follow me on Amino Acid For neurological symptoms
I got the same type of brain fog. Feels like I am high, like I’ve been smoking weed. I had it resolved until last week, I took L Glutamine and man, the brain fog came again, then I stopped the glutamine and all went back on track… Strange.
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@Burt_Kocain, I have something of a break through.
But first I need to ask you a question, and to all who will read this as well: Did your sweat stopped smelling bad under your arm pits after the crash ? I mean stop smelling like a man should ?
Mine did. I went on putting deodorant because I did it most of my life and a few months ago I noticed that I didn’t smell like a man anymore. I wouldn’t put any deodorant after a shower, went to bed, woke up, not shower, went to work riding a 700cc motorcycle in Bangkok traffic at 38 Celsius, go home and still not shower until 7pm, my armpits wouldn’t smell anything or smell like the soap I used last shower.
I have three boys. one is 15 yo and started smelling like a man a few years back so I bought him deodorant. the two others are 11 and 2 and don’t have man smell under the armpit yet. Looks like it’s triggered by hormones somewhere at puberty and goes on for life.
But I stopped having stinky sweat after I crashed 9 months ago.
So where’s the break through ? Well after two days of taking Sulforaphane (40 mg yesterday, 100 mg today) and for the first time after 9 months of not sweating, I smell like a man ! I mean I stink like a man ! Lol. Never thought I’d be happy about that.
Something have changed and it’s the same kind of change that happened to my boy during puberty.
It certainly have something to do with the hormone system rebooting itself, or at least it’s one more piece of the puzzle put in its place.
I don’t dare thinking Sulforaphane may actually be working !
I’ll keep you guys posted !
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Do you know what fixed it originally?