Maybe he is trying things on his patients. Do we have any of his patients on this website?
He wouldnât necessarily be treating his patients with a probable cure.
Letâs day he discovered âxâ is missing in our bodies. The only way to raise x is through a supplement or nootropic or something. He wouldnât be handing out that treatment since doctors donât prescribe supplements.
Or, letâs say the probable cure involves another prescription medication that has absolutely no FDA indication to use on us. His use on us a patient would therefore be practically experimental, off-label (or maybe not even off-label), and risky from a malpractice point of view.
Many doctors may not be willing to prescribe based on research findings. Theyâd want to run another research experiment involving the pharmaceutical that is a probable cure. Otherwise, they could lose their license if bad effects happened to us.
My original point was not to state a cure may have been found. My point was that it doesnât hurt to ask him what our reasonable expectations should be for the Baylor Study in regards to timeframe and study results. Worst case scenario, he tells us âI canât say, sorry.â
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Yeah they lose their license if bad effects happen lolâŠHe doesnât know he already said in the Baylor thread the study finished and was submitted for peer review back as far as Febuary so its been in peer review for atleast 4 months alreadyâŠIt could be at any time know one knowsâŠI called Phil at the foundation and he said the samething and its in 2 parts so it wonât all be released at the same time anywayâŠBut I agree Iâd asked him all kinds of shit if I could lolâŠ
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Took mucuna pruriens (equivalent to 30mg of L-Dopa). Had a spontaneous hard erection 20 minutes after ingestion. No mood-boosting or libido-boosting effects noticed. If anything depression was felt quite strongly after ingestion. I rarely feel anything positive nor negative so I suppose it is a feeling at least, right?
Hi Capello,
While i have the erectile probs they are connected to the neurological component ( i think so anyway particularly when one thinks of the epigenetic changes to the meso limbic pathway). Iâve had a lot of head fog and anxiety; when i have the head fog particularly the gentlemanâs sausage doesnât work well. What i can say is Iâm on day three of Tribulus and have found my head clearer as well as an improvement in sexual function. Specifically my head cleared yesterday and is still clear. While that may be a coincidence ill continue to monitor the correlation. I would recommend trying it but donât buy it from Amazon they are way over priced.
âŠJust a comment for 2981. I have a supply testo gell which iâve tried on numerous occasions to see if there is any changes in PFS - absolutely zip! This is in light of me having naturally high T (28) as well. I wouldnât waste my money on T gell unless bloods indicate deficiency.
Tribulus seems to improve things though (other mechanisms of action which are yet unknown i guess). Iâm quite skeptical about testosterone levels being involved (DHT maybe).
Bupropion, will not add sexual side effects, I will not cause the side effects that SSRi cause, I used for 12 week and was a tremendous help for my anxiety and my mod, I new that I was anxious but also I was depressed without knowing it.
Let put something clear depression is not sadness. Thatâs why we donât think that we are depressed.
Bupropion will not give you libido, but it will not make you worse, so guys you can take it without concern.
Fix your anxiety first then move to the next step, please do no mix Tribulus or any other herb or supplement while taking Bupropion, finish Bupropion treatment first before to touch any other drugs or supplement.
I have several questions for Khera, I let you know on Monday night.
Remember to everyone, mental side effects and the mod is the number 1 and the most important step to treat on the journey to recovery.
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Thanks again for that MOON. What dose of Bupropion did you take for the 12 weeks?
I took 150 mg, I rised the dosage to 300 my for one week or two because the doctor told me to that, but I reduced it back again to 150mg (1 pill).
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I donât necessarily disagree with you about suggesting wellbutrin to folks, however it certainly is not going to be side effect free for everyone that tries it.
I also feel great with great libido whilst on trib, if your libido stays after discounting trib then thatâs something to be excited about.
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Ginge, have you recently been taking tribulus? Are you still on it?
Yeah, but Iâve ran out now so having some time off of it, I want to try the mediherb one at the top of this thread tho as I donât think the one I use is as good and used different parts of the plant.
Trump_1776, I will not disagree with you neither, and thank you for the comment, however, I didnât notice any bad sides effect on Bupropion, the only thing that I remember was slurred speach, no big deal, also metallic taste and numb tongue if you chewed the pill, not big deal neither, and the side effects overweight the benefits of been 24/7 suicidal and not able to sleep due high anxiety.
Hi @Moonchild, good to hear youâre feeling better. Please do not continue to make psychosomatic diagnoses and assure members they can take medicines without concern. Please bear in mind the community guidelines that everyone posts by here, particularly this section:
Contributors should refrain from making declarative statements regarding the etiology of PFS without significant and specific evidence. Take care not to present your ideas and experiences as definitive medical advice or diagnosis. Instead, try to provide information of what has worked for you, or others on this site.
As examples, instead of using definitive statements about the condition that can appear as factual claims such as âPFS is thisâ, âThis will work every timeâ or âDo this and it will cure youâ, consider using language such as âI believeâŠâ, âYou could tryâŠâ, or âThis has worked for meâ.
Given that this isnât the first time (or the first forum) youâve experienced an improvement in your personal symptoms that you have viewed as a resolution of your personal issues, perhaps enjoy it, take a break and update those interested on your situation down the line. I see the moderators have had to temper some of the things youâve been saying and Iâd ask you keep it civil with other members who are not experiencing the exact same responses and situation as yourself.
Thanks and best.
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What you guys exactly mean when say âlibidoâ ? I should have ask this ages ago, how do you define âlibidoâ? I mean if i spent most of my time on tinder or instagram looking into girls, does this mean i have high âlibidoâ for example?
Libido to me is pretty much what it says on the tin, the desire to have sex.
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axolotl I am not making any pychosomatic diagnoses and I am not directly sending to anybody to take any supplement or drug, I just posted my experience and I just stated that " being 24/7 anxious will not help at all to recover from anything ", I just recommend to take Bupropion instead of Prozac or any other ssri antidepressant medication that can worse the PFS situation especially in the sexual side, and also said that side effect of bupropion overweight of being anxious and depressed all the time.
It is is true I have improved before as I said I been up and down, because seem that recovery is no linear, But if would make an graph and trace in points the up and down I clearly can see that the recovery is going up in the general chart and I mean (solid recovery in general).
I wish you all of you guys recover like me and get out of this nightmare forever.
I am going to take a break from this forum as you advise me and I will back after my appointment with Dr. Khera to report his opinion and advise.
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There has been other discussion about bupropion/wellbutrin here. User did not appear to be too happy with it. I also tried bupropion a while back, and it did not do me good. A recent study done on mice found:
BUP had toxic effects on testicular function
and
The BUP group showed a decrease in [âŠ] testosterone levels (Control, 783.5 ± 154.2 ng dLâ1; BUP, 201.4 ± 54.8 ng dLâ1)
Hence I would be at least cautious in recommending bupropion to our patients, but as usual, YMMV
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Bupropion maybe do testicular damage at dosage dependent and for how long you take it, everything is dosage dependent, even water can kill you if you drink too much.
Let me clear something " If wasnât because I took bupropion maybe I wouldnât be here today, maybe 7 food under" ( because I was about to kill my self at some point), I am glad that I didnât own a gun those days.
In my opinion, there are 3 options:
1-Do not take anything to control anxiety and deal with it 24/7.
2-Take SSRi drugs and maybe you deepening ED and Libido.
3-Take different class drug that do not have sexual side example Bupropion, (Bupopion it is not just antidepressant it is also anti-anxiolytic), I donât know another one that work better.
I am not a doctor to recommend but I did it base in my experience, I took it for 12 weeks and my testicles werenât affected at all, my Total testosterone now is near to 500 actually increased because I was in the 300 before long ago, let put a point here (I am not saying that Bupropion increased my testosterone).
I am forcing anybody to take it, but definitively leave untreated depression an anxiety it is not a solution neither.
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