I wanted to test this theory as well. It’s from Shellnyce right ?
I had a piece of cheese and some milk and honey an hour after taking my sleeping pill (to make sure they went through before mixing them with food) and right before turning the lights off to sleep.
I had an improved night of sleep. Still woke up in the morning, but it’s because of my phone beeping once.
Day 24: It seems to work. I can’t know for sure, but I think either L-Valine or the Pine Pollen is restoring sensitivity. I had sex two times today, finished two times within a six hours interval. No problem with erection, I can take it for granted as I used too. Sex drive is at 5 to 8 times a week, which is lower than before, but I’m fifty.
I guess I shouldn’t compare with when I was 28 (I had sex drive for 20-40 times a week. I was desperate. I seriously considered going to some African country and paying a black market doctor to remove one of my balls !)
Anyways. The regime I’m on seems to bear fruits.
On top of all the Amino Acid For neurological symptoms, I’m also taking:
L-Valine, 2000 mg / day.
L- Carnitin, 1000 mg / day.
Pine pollen in DMSO, 1 pea size a day., put on one of my forearms and then I spread it by rubbing both forearms together. they’re full of veins, so the androgenic ingredients in the Pine Pollen goes straight to my blood. (Warning, taking it this way in a lot more efficient. I once took 1/4 teaspoon of the mix and rubbed it on my forearms the same way and I had a testosterone rush along with aggressiveness. I find that a pea size is perfect for me.)
I will continue taking those supplements as long as my balls are hurting; they still do but less intensely and less frequently. I will reduce than stop when everything has come back to normal.
I will also post only if there’s a change. If suddenly some sexual symptoms come back, or to announce that ALL of them have finally disappeared.
I’ll be more active on the Amino Acid For neurological symptoms as I’m still fighting insomnia (although it’s also getting better)
Ha ha. I don’t know if I’m speaking too fast. Today, I had oatmeal for breakfast, a keto lunch, and a huge bowl of macaroni and cheese for dinner. I’m trying a carbohydrate reload to see what it does. So far so good, no anxiety or ill effects (except yummy. I love mac and cheese !)
I’ll be fasting and exercising for the next 20 hours and then back to keto / carnivore diet (Rib eye steaks, kale and lots of saturated fat. Always the same every meal. Much easier than pure ketogenic diet where you have to calculate shit)
Are you using plain L-Carnitin or L-Carnitin Tartrate or something else?
I have L-Valine, L-Carnitin Tartrate and Pine Pollen, but no DMSO. Guess I will give that a shot since the sexual sensitivity issue is really the only issue I have (or, at the very least, it’s the one I notice far more than anything else…)
L-Carnitine tartrate. I’m not sure that’s the one responsible for sensitivity. Nonetheless, I use it anyway. It creates new androgen receptors (so maybe it does improve sensitivity) and build up muscles.
I think it’s an overall approach, not just a one pill fix all type of thing.
I mixed 1 oz of this:
With one scoop of this:
It will last me for 2-3 month (instead of 1 scoop a day) and be more effective.
Thanks, I’ll give that a shot. I do agree, it’s probably the overall combo than any 1 particular thing. Now I just dread this no carb thing, lol
If you can’t get it straight on, try reducing gradually while increasing saturated fat and meat.
The results are amazing. Not only it heals diseases, but it raises you IQ (I shit you not sir !) and will make your body lean and full of muscle.
Check this guy: Totally better
He says:
“Hi Guys. So recovery…abstain from any sexual activity for prolonged period of time to try and somehow give your system a break. At some point get in the gym and force yourself to train (I know this might seem impossible but you have to) training must be circuit style/high intensity intervals on cross trainer etc (use caffeine preworkout). Need to eat clean (high protein low carb) and no smoking or drinking. I’ll be honest I started an Anavar cycle when these photos were taken, that’s why I look in great shape. I’m now using TRT (200mg test E) and SARMS (Ostarine and cardarine), similar effects (I think after the testicles have been fried by Propecia some sort of hormone replacement is the only solution) (I got this idea from another member who used pro hormones in a similar fashion and had success). Three years on I have no issues apart from PE (use dapoxetine and cialis) and long refactory period.”
He didn’t do high saturated fat, but he also didn’t recover from sexual symptoms. Hormones are made of cholesterol, so saturated is good for them as well as for the brain (which is 95% saturated fat)
I’ll post my pictures later. It’s almost the same.
I’ve been taking valine and carnitin the last 3 days or so and this is the best I’ve felt in a really long time. I hope it stays. If I can feel even better with a low carb diet I’ll be very happy.
I feel lean, strong, confident and sex drive is through the food.
Coincidence? Who knows. I’m going to keep taking them and see what happens. Low carb diet is coming up next after I do a little more research
That’s great news !
I don’t know what doses you take, but if you feel too great to be true, I suggest you cut the dose a bit. It’s easy to overdo it and crash on the other side.
After cutting back a bit, you can always readjust later.
That being said, what you describe is similar to how I feel.
what dose carnitine and valine and at what times of day?
I’m taking L-Valine 2000mg and Carnitine Tartrate 1000mg around 2pm before exercise.
They can be taken anytime before 3pm to make sure they don’t interfere with sleep, and taking them before exercise is better although if you did exercise the previous day it’s also fine.
I suggest you start at 1/4 of that, if you feel Ok, then 1/2, and you you feel ok then the above dosage.
Stop or reduce at first sign of trouble. Don’t think feeling bad is Ok and it’s only your body adapting. That’s how people end up worst.
I’m taking about half those amounts but I’ve been bad about taking them late in the day. The first night I didn’t sleep well at all, but that seems to be better now. I will probably switch to taking them in the morning though.
We’ll see how things go. If I can maintain a lot of how I feel now I’ll be pretty happy.
I didn’t start at those amounts. I always start something in tiny doses. As most of us, it’s easy for me to upset something and feel worst. Better be cautious.
I took them this morning to try to get adjusted to that vs in the evening. Going to leave the dosages at half the recommended for now and see what happens.
The weirdest thing is my muscles are sore. It feels like I’ve been working out, but I haven’t. It’s odd, but it kind of feels good in a weird sort of way
Yes. Carnitine goes to the muscle. It is best when used in combination with weight lifting. It creates new androgen receptors as it creates more muscles.
Weight lifting increases 5a-reductase. This is why it’s an element of at least half success stories.
But whatever you do, take it slowly.
Isn’t one of the theories on here that we have an upregulation of androgen receptors? I would think we wouldn’t want to be creating more
There’s all kinds of theories it seems. I don’t have a clue which is correct (my knowledge of biology is quite limited so most of it is over my head anyways) but I think most can agree that working out and a low/no carb diet have helped more people than anything else. A few people have had luck with different amino acids as well, so I feel like the combination of the three is our best bet at this point
For sure, I will be trying these as well. What I meant to say was that I think one of the studies pointed at increased androgen receptors in genital skin so I guess it’s proven more than just a theory. I actually
majored in molecular biology and I still have a hard time making heads or tails of some of what I read on here. Anyways keep us updated if you see any big improvements and I’ll do the same.
Some people go the estrogen path by taking soy. Or they try things that will lower their androgens or their AR response. If it makes them feel better, good for them.
I went the androgen path. I’m taking pine pollen to raise testosterone and other androgens, I take Carnitine Tartrate to create more AR, hopefully healthy, un-repressed ones, I take L-Valine to increase sensibility and I do weight lifting to boost 5a-reductase levels and try to reboot allopregnanolone and the whole thing.
It’s certainly not the way for every one. that’s why I’m saying start slowly and reduce, tapper down or stop at first sign of trouble. Do it only if it makes you feel good.
Well, tonight was def not a good one. Very numb during sex, couldn’t get the job done. Tried stopping for a bit and then trying again (usually works) but still no go
Not sure if it’s from taking these in the morning, ie it’s been over 12 hours at this point or what. Going to skip tomorrow altogether and see what happens.
Sorry for the thread hijack!
It’s fine. This thread is not as formal as the one for neurological symptom where I post daily.
I would suggest you stop for 3-5 days and see what happens. If you’re better, don’t take those again.