The point was not to increase DHT. We use it to downregulate our overexpressed Androgen Receptors.
So it took 2 weeks of cessation to finally see improvements for you? Thanks for that. I also updated my situation on my thread. Im off for 6 days now and i feel bad. No improvements.
If I remember correctly, at 2 weeks post-cessation was when I felt the worst. Things started to pick up after that. Mind you, I was also doing a 6-week long PCT at the time. By 8 weeks out, I was doing even better.
Update:
This week, I started Proviron up again but only at 25mg (since Iām not on any test). Going to do 2-3 short, two-week cycles (on 2, off 2, etc) with some adaptogenic herbs I recently tried (and liked) on the off weeks.
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Thanks man. Should i also do a PCT? What dosage and substance you recommend? What you used?
(As for @pal says, he felt the real improvements after a month, so maybe my recocevry is on its way!?
But something inside me tells this cycle 75-100 wasnāt enough. Because i didnāt feel significantly worse on it. )
After PCT iād like to try the 200mg Proviron protocol but i wonāt do it if this cycle shows no benefitsā¦
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Yes, about 4 weeks was about when I started to feel improvements. I used Clomid/Tamox @ 25/10 for 4 weeks, then reduced to just alternating them for another 2 weeks (nothing special about that dosage/duration). But that was because I was on Testosterone (modest TRT dose) with the Proviron.
Iāve continued to progress since then, although this week Iāve taken a slight hit because Iām back on the Proviron and not getting very good sleep. I just reduced it from 50 to 25mg because of the high BP/HR, anxiety, and insomnia - sides that I donāt recall having on the high doses before, so something has changed in my bodyās response to it or the fact that Iām not on testosterone with it makes a difference (although Iād expect the opposite in terms of even higher steroid levels).
If youāre already a couple of week off Proviron, then Iād just skip PCT. In fact, Iām not that sure itās necessary for everyoneā¦especially if youāre not on test, donāt have HPA dysfunction as part of your PFS, and donāt feel like the Proviron shut you down.
I wouldnāt worry about (not) doing the high Proviron dosage. After doing my stint (which ranged from 50-200mg) and reading more recovery stories, I think thereās also a lot of a validity to short-cycling it a few times at much lower doses like 25-50mg and maybe rotating some T-boosting/adaptagenic herbs on the off weeks in a similar way to Livid171 and others (Iāve been doing the @Livid171 protocol since ending my PCT, and itās possible that itās contributed to my continued progress).
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Hello, this is fun, because when im in proviron, I inmediatly go and buy a BIG Nutella bottle, and also im doing coofee. What is happening?
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No idea. I had a theory explained to me but I donāt know at all.
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What would you attribute this to?
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Ehrm, Proviron?
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Did anyone get itches and burning sensation on proviron or maybe after? Also, what about muscle hardness?
@Das I should of done an update a while ago, my apologies. I did the proviron cycle the same as Pal. Waited 10 weeks, I feel like it did shut me down a bit, balls shrunk slightly. I need to get some blood work to confirm. It wasnāt a cure for me. I may of needed more cycles but this is whole thing is trial and error. I had some clomid so have been taking a low dose to see if that brings any improvements.
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Thatās a shame. I had a feeling this would be the case though - another protocol that provides mixed results at best. I guess I sort of lucked out and at least got a partial recovery of most of my non-sexual symptoms. However, itās probably not worth the risk and trouble for most people, especially if they arenāt on any form of testosterone to avoid the miserable state it puts them in.
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I see but yeah a PCT could help like HCG or clomid.
Thanks for the update
How are you feeling?
Have you started a second (low dose) proviron cycle?
If so, donāt you think itās maybe a bit too soon since you nt long ago did the high dose one? Maybe your body needs a recovery periodā¦ to see some more improvements/changes.
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Yes, Iām about to finish this little 2-week cycle. Going back definitely took me back a tad - still well above baseline though. Probably was a bit too soon and needed more time to recover and see more improvements. I just chose this time period due to getting a light couple weeks at work and not knowing when the next one will come up. I hope the recovery process picks up where it left off.
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Where are you guys getting your bayer proviron? I have contacts in Europe, so as long as it does not require a doctorā¦ Is it pushing too hard, or could someone from abroad (Brazil) also get it?
Edit: looks legit, 100 tablets?? https://buysteroids.cn/proviron-25-mg-bayer-mesterolone
I second this message. Iām interested too to know where u guys are buying your proviron and how?
eroids uk is good for steroids suppliers most of them only take bitcoin payment which is easy .
been on 200mg for 12 days not feeling anything really in terms of feeling bad . but my sleep is much better now i sleep 7 hours and wake up feeling good . So if i run this and keep that one benefit it would of been worth it 6 more week to go to finish
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Got mine from pharmabol and itās the real deal. Iām almost 3 weeks into the 7 week 200mg cycle and hair is already shedding and sleep has improved. Felt really miserable after the 5 day mark until recently. Also noticed how vivid my dreams were for the first 2 weeks since taking it. Also my muscles are much more defined. Will come continue until the end and then update on progress
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