What's the point for me?

Was he a severe case or a milder one?

This is something to try avoiding for sure.

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Indeed. I was on a good trajectory, too. I screwed up.

Couldn’t tell you now, I’m afraid. I read it a long time ago.

Yes, I believe there was someone in India who had the same problem. Took zinc and his insomnia returned.

But it does make me thing I have a low estrogen problem.

6 years, not 7, my mistake.

I will say on that note there’s probably not much difference between 2 years, 6 years or fifteen years in terms of the body returning to normal. By that amount of time, I think you’re into “as long as it takes” territory.

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An endo told me 3, 12 and 24 month points are generally when the body recovers from hormonal disorders. Less often after that. Take heart you’ve still got time… noting many have got better on here at the 3 month point so there’s probably something in what he said.

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Ah, thanks for finding this, friend. It does appear he had a lot of symptoms.
I’ll keep waiting. No more experimenting for me. Why change what has worked for me for the past 6 months?
Waiting seemed to do far more for me than supplements.

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I hope you’re right.

Something I’ve done recently was shift my investments into riskier assets in hopes that they explode in value. I really don’t want to work with this condition, and I’m someone who used to love my job.

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Me too mate loved the high octane environment and pressure, I’ve been reduced to not being able to work these last 2 years or deal with any stress. Living off savings one day you may be able to get back to the job you love. Doesn’t sound like you have financial worries something to be grateful for Im aware of some that are living on fumes which would dramatically worsen the landscape

All I can say is don’t give up hope. For the first 16 months my condition was almost unbearable. Crippling anxiety, brain fog, muscle wastage, fat gain, completely impotent without the use of PDE, no libido, severe skin condition. I’m now two years in and have made huge progress in the past 6-8 months. Brain fog has cleared, 90% physical recovery, anxiety is significantly improved, libido is perhaps my last remaining symptom and is at 10-20% of what it was (better than 0%). I’m able to live a normal life and am content with my current situation.

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My ankle feels a lot better today.
Now let’s hope my insomnia goes away.

Thanks for your story and I’m glad you recovered so much.

With time?

I do believe a significant part is attributed to time. I have however been taking Clomid to keep my testosterone levels at the higher end of the range. Initially this did nothing however over time the impact has become more pronounced. I also believe strength training has been key. I was an avid bodybuilder/powerlifter prior to PFS and it really got me through the early days.

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I sent you PM regarding possible explanation to your symptoms @WorriedGuy123

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Do you think clomid has been key to your improvements ? I doubt it would have helped in so many domains! I’m really pleased for you it’s so good to hear. Gives myself and others something to hang onto

I think the chocolate and sweets I had for the past 2 weeks contributed to this crash.

So far, my ankle pain went away, thankfully, so I can walk without any pain.
I have digestive issues where I feel like I will have diarrhea after every meal similar to when I first got off fin. Very demoralizing. The urge to poop is much less than my first time I had this symptom, so that is good.

Hey, guys.

Sleep was a lot better for me last night. I was able to fall asleep after a couple of hours and stay asleep for 5 or 6 hours with no heart palpitations. Unfortunately, those 5-6 hours were not very deep sleep.

I’m honestly not sure. I did stop taking clomid for approximately a month and my testosterone dropped to ~300 and I went downhill pretty quickly. I’m not cured by any means as is evident with my almost nonexistent libido however I have made significant improvements. I was a pretty bad case for the first year and a half and pretty much lost hope. What I’ve seen in the past 6 months reinforces that this condition does not have to be permanent.

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