UltraHard (androsterone) - legal alternative to Proviron that also modulates allopregnenolone

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#64

Seems like (oral) androsterone is banned in my country. According to the gov’t website:

Epiandrosterone and 4-androsterone are drugs that are not authorized for use in Canada. Epiandrosterone is a metabolite of dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) and is a weak androgen, or male hormone. DHEA can cause higher than normal levels of male hormones in the body and could increase the risk of prostate, breast, ovarian and other hormone-sensitive cancers. Potential side effects include serious cardiovascular disease, and changes in fertility and sperm production. DHEA should be avoided by individuals with a history of abnormal heart rhythms, blood clotting disorders, liver disease, and those who are pregnant or breast-feeding.

4-androsterone is a metabolite of testosterone. Risks of using testosterone can include liver disease, heart disease and behavioural changes. Testosterone should not be used in men with prostate cancer.

Are these legit safety concerns?

#65

Absolutely not.

#66

Hi Guys did CDNUTS used this Gel ?

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#67

I think that was the one that is no longer available anymore.

#68

But its showing available on Amazon !

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#69

People are reporting joint pain from this which I suffer greatly from already. Seems to be a strong enough AI to cause low e sides in some people. It also seems to worsen or cause insomnia for people and are told to just decrease the dose and power through it.

#70

Any updates here or someone is thinking about starting it?

#71

Just wanted to make a quick report of my little trial of Ultrahard…I used it now for 8 days…I really forgot that i had dry eyes and dry skin, as it totally helped with those two…BUT
I felt exactly and i mean exactly the same as when i was taking SAGE-217…The same unbearable increase in tinnitus and brain fog that i cant even think or read anything anymore…My numbness has also increased and Taste sense is extremely low…
Anyway as those sides are making me dysfunctional in every aspect of life,Im discontinuing Ultrahard now…Im not expecting any improvement from a rebound or something like this…My body at least seemed to have lowered its androgens for a good reason…Maybe to protect me from further damage…Man i hate this poison…

#72

Does this stuff shut down your balls like steroids do? Also could somebody PM me he forum where these testimonials are from? Thank you.

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#73

Theoretically they can…But if there is a study that can prove this claim, then im not aware of it to be honest…Even if you want to try it, its recommended to stay on it for no more than 8. weeks and give your body 8 weeks off period. At leas its what iconic formulation is recommending.

#74

Any ultraharders wanna give an update on their progress?

#75

Just started my second cycle yesterday I’ll most likely update at the end of the month

#76

Week 1 done no effects as of now bad or good

#77

Any improvements at all, since starting the therapy?

#78

Nothing so far, I’m hoping to see benefits once I come off the cycle.

#79

Week 2 complete. Feeling like complete shit brain fog is gone though just fatigue mostly, joints seem to be okay as of now still popping but not inflamed and hurting like they normally do. Gonna keep pushing.

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#80

Sounds positive ! Any change in sexual sides? What about depression and anxiety?

#81

Depression and anxiety are better but I think that was just time because even before I started ultrahard it was one of the few improvements I had. I have had sexual sides fluctuating some days I feel more sensation in my penis and have decent libido other days (most of the time it’s gone). When I got off the first cycle I felt like I had more sensation in my genitals and looked healthier not as dark dead looking with better blood flow, once I got back on I felt like it nuked my sexual sides down again but I’m hoping once I’m off the cycle it will go back to improving slightly.

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#82

That all sounds very promising to me! Keep continue the great fight! I’m only 10 months in PFS so I wont touch such therapeutics yet, but I might follow your steps in a year or so if no improvments.
Thx for the epxerience sharing

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#83

No problem man, yeah to anyone else early in there crash please don’t mess with it unless you’ve been suffering for over a year in my opinion. I’m over 3 years in this and I’m basically a guinea pig at this point I’ve lost just about everything and don’t really have much to lose at this stage.

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