I can masturbate but I don’t get rock hard like I use to. I took Propecia for three months and when one day my dick just shrunk up and I barely got erections, I just stop taking it. I went from barely any erections to being able to be visually stimulated and masturbate. So, I am showing improvement. I have been off of the drug for about three strong weeks. Does this mean I am getting better and if so, how long does it take to get the drug out of your systems? When do the inhibitors stop working? Do they die once you stop taking the pill?
I have just had such a terrible sleep. For 4 hours, I woke up every hour almost on the dot. I have never experienced anything like it in my life.
start with some 50 mg 5-htp i take this for life, will increase depth of sleep
you could try usp labs powerfull, read the reviews, supposedly it releases GH but whether or not that’s true almost everyone reports deep refreshing sleep
also you can try zma, the best and original brand is SNAC zma
Why is it so hard to post replies here. It takes forever! I’ve been off a propecia for three weeks and i’m experiencing sexual side effects.
Sorry to hear that man. I try not to look at the clock when I’m sleeping, but I would say I wake up every hour too. Last night I’m not even sure I slept a full hour before my first awakening. It took me about 2-3 hours just to get to sleep at all because of the constant need to urinate. I’m definitely going to make a doctors appointment today about the urination.
All you can do is just think of the recoveries people have had. I’ve bookmarked the best ones on my browser and I go straight to them sometimes while avoiding the more depressing stuff on here. I’ve read of people who had the sleep problem for a few weeks, a few months, and a few years, but who all eventually saw improvement. No reason it can’t get better for you or me too.
Sleep, memory and concentration, his the few things that improved with me by time. I think better we sleep, better we feel.
It’s difficult i know, after i crashed my sleep has horrible, similar what you guys describe,but with time i’m much better in this department. Now i wake up most of the days more refreshed. Sleep well is a very important thing. Try to stay calm and you wil see improvements.
Cheers
I am basically sleeping alnight now, maybe wake up once or something.
I dont feel refreshed though, my body hurts all over in the morning.
Thanks for the advice, I will try this out.
I have taken Valium the past two nights and it has helped me get into a deep sleep, pretty much knocked me out.
Don’t go overboard on the Valium man. That stuff is addictive, and can really mess you up if you take it long term.
5htp can affect your moods. The first step should be MELATONIN. this is the natural hormone our bodies produce when it gets dark to make us tired and keep us asleep. Try the time released melatonin from Source Naturals.
I take this regularly (with breaks of course).
I currently use non timed release melatonin, and it is excellent and making me tired but it doesn’t improve my constant waking up. I have ordered some Source Naturals times release from the US today though.
I am switching all my supplements after this batch, and just buying high quality stuff to use over the next year:
. High quality fish oil
. High quality 1000 iu Vitamin D
. High quality mens multi vitamin
And I will probably leave it there, and maybe cycle a few products off and on. Before I simplify things though I have ordered some Sustain Alpha and Toco 8 and I will take both of those for 25 days and see what that brings.
I may as well say that I had another fantastic 4-5 days last week but I kept it quiet, I slept well, morning erections were strong, and so was libido - this was after I came off a cycle of tribulus and l-arginine and the two nights after valium were good too. Once again though I have came straight back down and my penis is looking worse than ever, it has actually shrunken in the middle where it has developed an hourglass shape for most of the day when it’s in a flaccid state. I’m getting so many mixed signals in this recovery process
I’m going to try and keep it simple now with a good routine of exercise, diet and solid high quality supplements. I will see another doctor when I move to London next month to start my degree.
I got my sustain alpha along with toco 8 in the mail today, I will let you guys know how it goes. I don’t know what to expect, probably something temporary at best but I feel it’s worth a shot. This whole finasteride ordeal and the way that we tackle it is one big mess.
No official diagnosis, nothing to really aim for when you want to take action, fluctuating symptoms. I never thought I would be dealing with such a thing.
I have been trying to convince myself that this could all be stress related, because at the time I had the crash I was having a lot of troubles with my girlfriend, I was traveling a lot, I was drinking and occasionally doing drugs. But then I thought about it, and that’s exactly the same sort of situation I was in when I was on propecia and came off it twice and recovered fine, in fact, in terms of stress and anxiety I was in a much worse position at one point, while I was taking finasteride and never had symptoms like these. It’s strange how I went on and off of finasteride with no problems previously, but the last cycle has put me in this mess.
f’ing sucks when your cock and balls shrink. 
What?
The doctor gave me some Citalopram Hydrobromide today.
They have impotence listed as a side effect - great!
Citalopram, like other antidepressants, carries a black box warning stating that it may increase suicidal thinking and behavior in those under age 24. Beyond age 24 there is no increased risk for suicidality.[23
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Stay away from anti-depressants if you can. Finasteride already caused enough damage, do you really want to throw another monkey wrench into your system and mess with brain chemistry and potentially, further sexual dysfunction? These drugs are very powerful and are not to be taken needlessly.
If you want a natural anti-depressant alternative, consider Omega 3 fish oils and or maybe St. John’s Wort (watch out for interactions).
That is my thinking exactly Mew, but I just feel like I have to give it a try, my mum’s being a complete bitch about all of this now. Last night I slept about 1 hour, constantly waking up, it was the first time I drank a bit and took NO supplements at all. I think the fish oils, vit d, melatonin and 5 htp do more than I thought.
I just hate this whole thing, I have nothing to aim for in terms of recovery. I just take supplements and hope for the best day after day.
I have booked another appointment for next Monday, I am going to raise my concerns about the anti depressant and take some material on Wellbutrin with me, and ask if I can have some on prescription. I hope he has an open mind and obliges.
Does anybody have any really good reading on Wellbutrin? I will obviously do a google, but I thought I’d ask.
Oh yeah, and and update on the sustain alpha: after the 3rd day I have been getting very strong morning erections, no libido though. The morning erections have felt really fucked up though, like really bulged but with no sensation, I hope that isn;t indicated some serious changes with my penis.