I am sometimes getting rock hard morning erections again. No sexual fantasies EVER like I used to though 
they feel unnatural and the tip is an unhealthy purple coulor with dots popping through.
Give it time, relax man, you are fretting (and posting) too much. Perhaps a habit?
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Am I posting THAT much? considering it’s a forum. I am sick, I’m not sure how sick but the Stool issue plus the sleeping problems are sure signs of something going on, go ahead and doubt the sexual stuff though because honestly that might be improving, and yes I can have sex etc etc. Enquiry into what’s going on has became a habit yes, I am trying to be active with this, although my last post is rather pointless I like to write things out sometimes.
There’s the pot calling the kettle black…
lol, indeed
Tonight was fucking horrible, could barely get hard and when I did I cummed really quick. Went downstairs and looked at my penis and it had a huge red streak down the side. My muscles feel all weak, and as if my chest is sinking. I can bet when I put my head down on that pillow in a minute I will wake up in 2 hours feeling like utter shit.
If this is a long term, I don’t think I’m going to be able to accept it. Those of you that have dealt with a number of side effects from this drug for years are strong guys. I am preying I can find something in the stool symptoms that come up with some bacterial infection or something different, but there’s just so many consequences.
Like I said before…I think our symptoms are broken down and we have fibromyalgia/CFS which also can lead to Chronic Gut Wall Infection in our gut as well over time. With that, we are hypometabolising, our bodies are slower, body temperatures are below the norm, our cortisol goes in overdrive then eventually crashes leading to adrenal fatigue/insufficiency & Hypothyroid… I find myself fatigued in the morning, which sucks, because I’m a very competitive person in my field and I HATE LOSING…
I think our road to recovery consists of 1.) being patient and …
-HPTA restart
-Address Estrogen
-Address Adrenals
-Address Thyroid
-Address IGF-1/HGH levels
-Take Vitamins Our system is a mess, Vitamin B’s, C, D, E and Fish oil is necessary.
-Juices and a diet that will clear out any candidias/gut wall infection we may have.
I’m holding a discussion with my doctor tomorrow, and see where he wants to go with this…Do I make sense guys??? I hope so…
Good Luck…and I’m not giving up…
FYI, the Paleo diet completely addresses gut wall permiability and the myriad of symptoms that it comes with, many of which you mentioned and many more you haven’t. If you haven’t llooked into it already, you should definitely check it out. If you go to www.paleodiet.com it is loaded with scientific articles on such things. You’ll feel tons better on this diet.
This does sound like it’s logically well put together, but honestly I don’t even know where to start with the real science of it, and don’t even want to get into it. This whole thing seems crazy, the fact you get guys claiming there recovered after 6 months/ 12 months/ 3 years, the symptoms are so different, no doctors acknowledge it, it’s incredibly rare and so on. It’s all too much for me and I don’t think anyone can really have a good guess at what the finasteride may be doing unless they are extremely good at science or a doctor.
The worst, well really it’s a best but you’ll know what I mean, is that it’s not something that is stopping me from doing anything really, I’m not in any pain I just feel bad, there is absolutely no way anyone will be convinced easily that this can truly affect you.
Hang in there Joe. Don’t listen to Luckfax.
From what I’ve read on this site, sleep appears to be one of the things that does get better even for some long-term finasteride victims, though it might take many months. Just don’t try to push yourself too much, and find things you can enjoy that will help take your mind off this shit.
Also if it were me I would stop obsessing over my penis. I know it’s hard to do, but it doesn’t do any good constantly scrutinizing it. I’ve stopped even looking at mine and have started to accept it’s not going to be the same again.
Yeah ‘hang in there’ with your ‘dodgy stools’ and fuzzy feelings! Which might not even have anything to do with fin!
Luckfax, I have said myself that I think the stool symptoms could be pointing into a different direction to finasteride, I don’t understand your problem? I am approaching the doctor without regards to finasteride now. Just because I have a symptom that others often don’t it doesn’t mean I can’t ask on here. People come out with far, far more odd and crazy symptoms on the this forum. Furthermore, there just two of my symptoms.
You said elsewhere you were in Egypt for two months, you might have picked up a bug there.
I KNOW.
I was also in Istanbul (Turkey) for 10 days, and Tenerife (Spain) for 5 days where I was drunk out of my mind for 5 days in a row, and also did ecstasy.
Hence the reason I told informed my doctor of this so that my stool would be tested for parasites!
I KNOW.
I was also in Istanbul (Turkey) for 10 days, and Tenerife (Spain) for 5 days where I was drunk out of my mind for 5 days in a row, and also did ecstasy.
Hence the reason I told informed my doctor of this so that my stool would be tested for parasites!
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Joe, no offense but… I would recommend taking a break from this site for a few weeks or month or two to give yourself and your mind a break, as you seem to be constantly obsessing about your situation.
I recommend focusing on other things, and seeing if you find improvements in that time, at which point you could update us of your findings or future experiences with doctors or treatments. Posting day in and day out is not going to change your situation and only keeps your mind focused on the negative. Work with your doctors, get your “stool” checked out, and keep us updated as to progress.
I don’t mean that in a condescending way but there isn’t much we can do to help you over the Internet – only you can help yourself, by taking action and making things happen, rather than posting incessantly. I did provide you a UK doctor’s name who I was told has seen other Finasteride users, so I recommend you make an appointment and let us know how it goes. Cheers.
That’s fair enough Mew, I will stay away form the forum and try to make real progress. I suppose I have been getting dragged in a little bit.
I am not so sure about Dr Bouloux, I found a blog post that put me off:
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"We know that men who don’t have regular ejaculations or sexual intercourse have lower levels of testosterone,’ says Professor Pierre Bouloux, consultant endocrinologist at University College London and the Royal Free Hospital.
It looks as if he is part of the Dr Myhill case, a female doctor here who seems to me a bit like the UK version of Dr Crisler, if she wasn’t being suspended I would go to see her. Either way Dr Bouloux could be cheap because I think he has a post under the NHS, and I am moving to London next year so he could be very convenient.
If you can have sex up to 4 times a day, you’re completely potent for your age. Not anyone can do it.
This is something that occurred during the week where I felt great.
I am going to stop mindlessly posting now for a while, but my sleep is still very poor, even with 2 grams of L-arginine and some melatonin an hour before bed my body still won’t let me get anything better than 2-3 hours, yet I will feel refreshed after these hours of sleep, which is weird. Anyway, I wanted to ask what people have had success with when it comes to severe sleeping problems?