If you want to side with a known bullshitter like Deadballs/monty, a proven liar and genuine freak, just to score a point against me you are sad.
(Ok i’ll bite. How exactly was there “almost no Foundation” because of me?)
I’m not a petulant pussy like you so I don’t “side” with anyone; I get done what needs to get done.
Oscar falsely accused a key communicator and research coordinator for the PFS foundation of lying. Then, while we were assembling a media/protest team, he claims we weren’t even at Merck HQ, putting the word truth in ALL CAPS like a 9/11 Truther website, to try to prove his non-argument.
Lots of people have done what they could to raise awareness about the post Finasteride Syndrome. Some efforts have been more productive than others. The only action Oscar took was to bitch how he can’t “fall in love with a woman”
While talented and dedicated people joined together to form the PFS Foundation, that is now offically a Non-Profit Organization, Oscar called our efforts “rubbish” - projecting his own cowardice and incompetence onto others. I and others could have been dissuaded by Oscar’s attempts to discourage us, but we weren’t.
You want an update? I and several others successfully organized protest that was mentioned on the national news in two different countries, assembled a media team and a Tax-deductible Foundation, all the while you were discouraging us by calling our efforts “rubbish” that’s “the most pathetic protest in human history” then bitching how you can’t “fall in love with a woman.” We are not discouraged by trolls. But others might be and might have been. Which leads to the question: How much progress has Oscar’s trolling detered? We’ll never know for sure. But your trying to undermine others’ efforts is more than enough to restrict your posting privleges.
You saddo. It was most pathetic protest in human history! You where standing outside the wrong building with a tiny flag!Remember?
It was only after I pointed that out you went to the right place and even started. And only a week after that you where joined by anyone else. Remember?
Because i spurred you on at the beginning, because I demanded more, you could say there is only a Foundation because of Oscar. Anyone reading that story can discover that for themselves.
You may not have liked my attitude but then again you had made repeated fun of my genitlia, totally unprovoked.
No Oscar you moron, that’s not what happened. “That story” isn’t even a story; it’s an online thread with limited information. So much happened in “that story” that you don’t have enough information to make any judgement on what happened. Other than when talented people were taking action, you were trying to dissuade us and bitching how you can’t “fall in love with a woman.”
And you have absolutely no effect on my behavior with the excpetion of a few posts on this forum. And it’s not your attitude I mind. It’s you being an imcomepent coward while trying to undermine the efforts of those who aren’t incompetent cowards.
OK. Then what information is missing?
Ok. Then I ask again, how was there almost no Foundation because of me?
The truth is youre exaggerating because you dont like me. You made fun of my symptoms before that incident and you still are now.
Jesus Fucking Christ. This shit again?
The administrators of this forum need to PLEASE stop allowing this fucking horse shit on here. It is fucking sickening.
Second Ammendment had serious fucking balls to do what he did for us, plain and simple.
Also, anyone who is fucking dumb enough to speak ill of Awor, at any point, is so fucking stupid it is unreal. He has done so much for us. We should all be down on our hands and knees thanking the lord that he and he his team are doing what they are… and it ALWAYS should have been that way.
What a fucking joke this forum is. Everyone just fights each other. I mean seriously, are we all even on the same team? It sure doesnt feel like it. What a fucking tragedy this is, on all levels.
EVERYONE GET FUCKING FOCUSED!!! THIS IS OUR CHANCE, AND IF WE FUCK UP, WE WILL NOT A MOTHER FUCKING DO-OVER!!!
Dude it’s not everyone, it’s just a few bad apples spoiling the cart! I’m not responding to haters like Oscar and Luckfax any more cos it serves no purpose, I’m just slowly becoming a hater myself as a result!
So whois trying protocol so we can see if others respond the same - brainbug said he knew alteast one guy on deca and he was way way better. Could you please get them to come in here and write what they are doing? Or relay the info at least? I belive he is going to the same doctor as brainbug.
I am. Will be updating in this thread as I go along. And please oscar and others, keep the bullshit claims out of here please. Lets focus on the thread topic, yes?
Please stop fighting.
CrazEpharmacist please go and try your TRT. The more you post here the more fuel you provide for fire. It is better come with solid results.
Oscar has been banned for 2 weeks. If it continues, a permaban will be issued.
Injected 250 mg deca on Monday. Haven’t noticed anything at all yet. Will be doing another 250mg on Friday. Figured I may as well front load 500mg the first week and then do 125mg mon/fri thereon. Also ordered some DHEA+pregnenolone (both good brands-micronized pills). They’ll be here on Sat.
You are taking it along with testosterone right?
Hello,
This is an very interessting topic that I will be following, please don’t stop updating however it will go.
I’m going to try this in another way, I’ve bought progeterone cream.
When I last took sustanone I noticed increased libido, bone and hornyness, sensitivity came back too, but that was only brief for a week or 2, I was thinking it was the testo p that helped me, but now, reading this it was probably the deca in sustanon mix.
Btw, after sustanon libido boost i went back to limp and numb, then slowly regaining some function but im like 30-40% normal.
Thin semen
Never rockhard
Only sometimes morning wood, like 3 in a month, sometimes not a single time in 6 months.
Can’t do it twice, sometimes can’t do it once.
Get it up is hard and then it softens most of the time.
No endurance in sex nor in workout.
Havent woken up and felt really fresh in a long time.
And endos tell me its nothing wrong, everything looks fine…
do not take all the shit together. Simply follow what Mark.r.d is doing 100mg test 100mg deca he added HCG later.
You are never going to get anywhere if you take a million things at once do the 100/100 for a while and see what happens.
Deca has metabolites which bind to the androgen receptor by express estrogen charictoristics it also binds to prg receptor etc. You need to take it easy with the deca. 100/100 and nothing else is the best option try this for a month and note down any changes at all.
Hi man, how’re you doing? I’ve been away from this forum for a while, because it’s too much negativity in here. monty brought this thread to my attention, and I just want to correct your statement. I paused TRT for a while, but it was NOT because it didn’t work. My endocrinologist wanted to look at my hormone levels while being off testosterone. I was off TRT from December 2012 to March 2013. I’m currently on Nebido, 100 mg once a week, after front loading with 1000 mg. I’m also using Primobolan Depot - and what’s very interesting, is that it increases the amount of prostate fluid! This came as a surprise, because while using TE for a couple of years, I barely ejaculated anything at all. Another observation I’ve made after starting Nebido, is that the prostate fluid turns transparent, and the amount decreases, when my estradiol level increases. I take 100 mg zinc picolinate for bed, to adjust the androgen/estrogen ratio in favor of androgens. 2.5 mg Cialis a day is also a part of my protocol, as DHT deficiency causes NO/cGMP deficiency.
Now, I’m sure that it’s damage to the prostate that’s the real problem. Good news is that it should be reversible. The reduction of DHT changes the ratio between positive- and negative growth factors. I won’t go into details at this point, but there are some important things you should know;
- androgens induces positive growth factors within the prostate*
- estradiol is a potent reductase inhibitor
- zinc is a very important mineral for the prostate
Finasteride causes the prostate to shrink, and it constricts blood flow. In fact, the drug is often used before prostate surgery to reduce bleeding. All organs are dependent on normal blood flow to be maintained and function properly. The fact that androgens induces positive growth factors within the prostate, is probably why Primobolan Depot works. Methenolone is an androgen which doesn’t aromatize. It’s able to enter the prostate and stimulate androgen receptors without the risk of being converted by aromatase - like testosterone does.
I am going to add my comments here - In response to Enden
Hi man, how’re you doing? - vary from 10 to 20 percent of my old self. I belive the fluxutions are due to small changes in hormone levels. When I have a perfect reiigeme of perfect food, perfect sleep I am normal good enough to get on with my life minis libido and still having many problems but can get by. When my encironment changes food changes I can have bad days. My free cort is at very low levels so a reduction of 10 percent would put me at critical levels.
I have no issue with wood in fact within minutes of shooting test I get a wood that effect lasts for a week. Anti estrogens have given me the best woods in my life.
“Now, I’m sure that it’s damage to the prostate that’s the real problem.”
SO what about the guys who took 5 pills? 1 pill? 2 pills? What about the guys who took fin for 10 years and felt like super man while regrowing hair?
My seamen can be totaly clean on trt but then I will take anti estrogens and it will go back to milky.
Well if you could post a thread on your complete observations of primo please do so once you ave fully evaluated it.
Finasteride is an irreversible inhibitor, which means that the enzymes are damaged once the drug binds to them. The body has to replace them with new enzymes. The half-life for this process is supposed to be around 30 days. One fucking pill is all it takes to damage the enzymes, and change the intraprostatic ratios of sex hormones and growth factors - which leads to physical changes over time. In cases where the drug is tolerated for several years, those ratios are probably more favorable, although still negative.
I strongly disagree that it is damage to prostate or 5 AR are low or nil. Many felt worse after stopping the drug and it reported by many many users. They were fine on it but got worse after stopping it.
If 5AR enzymes are problem we should do good on DHT cream then.