Stem cells as a therapy

Im getting bald again…if i ever get this shit done , i would have it because of my thinning line. Its curious you know…now that I feel just like any other person, I care about my looks a lot.

No one cares about your hairloss or having any procedures done for cosmetic purposes. There are guys here with serious health issues. If you don’t have PFS, or likely you never did, you should leave this board and frequent a hairloss forum if you’re interested in such things.

Braziliandude,
I’m glad that you are well enough to care about such things again. I think many of us are too damaged to relate. I’m glad your sticking around even though your cured. Gives us all much needed hope.

Braziliandude, can you please clarify what it is that helped you? I wasn’t aware that you are cured, I thought you were trying different treatments still.

Braziliandude, can you please let us know what made you feel cured? I thought you were still pursuing different treatments.

Unfortunately, this user’s (Braziliandude) story tends to change week by week. Such inconsistencies can be a major red flag in terms of credibility.

Review his post history from the beginning and draw your own conclusions.

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He claims to have had significant gains via aroma therapy. Now he’s talking about stem cell treatment for his hairloss. It’s nice you’re showing support for one another but none of that nonsense helps any of us here at all and it actually does more harm than good by making the rest of us look foolish by association.

Aroma therapy?? Oh god…see if it was before I would probably get very mad and stupid with people, as for now I feel sorry for them, hope you can all get better someday, life is a blessing…and hopefully you can get it back. Take care guys

what happened to your “drawing blood and injecting it back to your body” I think autohematotherapy or something like that.

Autohemotherapy is one thing…aroma therapy is a COMPLETELY different thing… yes I did the authohemotherapy from january to july… a little over 6 months…I think that to me it was very helpfull however…as I started to notice the power of the right combination of supplements…plus aloe vera, and now Algea water, I stopped doing it.

To the person who pointed out my first post…

IF anything…reading this brings me tears to my eyes. I can´t believe the ammount of effort, and hours that I have spent researching alternative cures…going to all kinds of different doctors…and also how much I just believed in my myself, I know its cheesy and corny but its the reality,…guys if you come here, to critize me and say nasty things to me, instead of being excited that someone has found a cure or at least ways to DRASTICALLY improve the quality of life for you…I dont know what to tell you. I did everything under the sun…i have spent crazy money too…called dr goldstein talked to man himself…got his friend´s contact number here in brazil, went to his clinic 3 times, had surgery, told you all everything I was trying thru out the whole experience from supplements to hypnosis, told you guys about orthomolecular doctor, shared pictures of my PROSTATE and blood analyses …what ELSE does a person need to do to show credibility here?? do you need my address, the colour of my underwear and my facebook personal account?? I cant understand it mew , like seriously. but anyways…since i know some people here, think straight and get hopefull whenever there´s someone who gets better, I will continue to come here every now and then… and guys read the recovery threads…hold on to that kind of energy…letsconvenience and ihp702 cured themselves… does that make the two of them not credible enough either? take care

reading thru my oldest posts…

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haha I have always been a little bit of a rebel…and sarcastic. However I can see now…why some of you think I´m a nonsense and imature, but I promise I´m not, its just a trace of my personality.

That’s interesting, considering multiple reports mention the problem is extremely difficult to treat, that the exact mechanisms for such persistent issues have yet to be elucidated, and that the PFS Foundation was founded to investigate PFS to uncover the root causes of the condition (in order to hopefully develop effective treatments and/or potentially a cure).

Yet you claim to have the cure, do you? And what would that be?

FYI this forum is littered with past users’ “cure” claims, none of which have panned out. Anyone claiming to have “the cure” should expect major scrutiny and questioning from others.

Mew your body can fix this by itself…if you feed it the right foods and give the right nutrition … thats what we are designed to do…to heal…we heal everyday…im telling you, theres no better machine than the human body.

A gross oversimplification and 100% untrue with regard to PFS according to every piece of information we have to this point. PFS doesn’t just “fix itself”. I wonder what guys like keepup, who have had PFS going on a decade, think when they read those type of remarks. Anyway, I really don’t see the value of going back and forth on this. If you’re well and you’ve recovered from whatever you had good luck and enjoy the rest of your life.

Are you stupid or what? I SAID…it will GET FIXED if you give the right tools to do so…and no, theres no point on continue with this bitchy fight. and yes, I will have a good rest of my life. Keep up the good vibes, people who DO want to get better. Im with you!!

Boston you could start by having a hair analyses done…170 dollars…and a spectracell blood test too… why dont you give it a try? I mean you really want to get better right? I can help you pay some of the expenses if you need …let me know.

Thanks for the offer but I don’t that will be necessary. You can make a donation instead to the foundation. pfsfoundation.org/

Wait – so you claim to have “the cure”, yet when asked for details you spout off some newage/spiritual/feel good message that the body will “fix itself” if given the right nutrition? Please.

You clearly have not read a shred of the scientific papers written on persistent Finasteride issues thus far, and the proposed mechanisms for investigation (neurosteroids, androgens, androgen receptor, genetics/epigenetics etc).

This problem has NOTHING to do with nutrition – vast majority of guys who took the drug were young, healthy with no issues prior to use, with diets that didn’t change before/after the drug. The drug and it’s inhibition of 5AR is the common factor here, not diet.

And just what are those tools that you claim will fix everyone?

FYI there have been guys here suffering for years with little to no improvement, who have adjusted their diets (amongst other things), none of which made any difference. Why? Because this problem (5AR/neurosteroid/androgen deprivation) has nothing to do with nutrition. The exact causes for persistency are currently under investigation.

Both typical scam tests peddled by alternative health practitioners to get you to buy their products. A hair analysis or “spectracell” blood test to evaluate vitamin/mineral deficiencies is of little to no value considering our issue has nothing to do with nutrition. The leading doctors and researchers have already provided some thoughts in their papers as to where the issues lie, maybe you should read them sometime.

Anyway – I grow tired of users changing their story on a weekly basis, proposing miracle “cures” which turn out to be nothing but red herrings , misleading others of their time, money and potential health. Further, your combative and insulting behaviour towards both moderators (telling Boston332 “Are you stupid or what?”) and Administrators (ie, me) in past threads goes counter to forum rules of maintaining professional conduct and discussion.

Further, you claim you are feeling like your old self these days so if that’s the case you should enjoy your life rather than argue online all day. I do wish you success but you have to realize the concepts you are proposing have been tried by countless others before you and have not made a shred of difference, for reasons already mentioned.

We are now at the stage of derailing Joetz’ thread, so let’s keep this discussion on topic. If you want to argue about nutrition as a cure, post it in the Theories section.

You know what…you win. Take care

This has nothing to do with “winning”, it has to do with people being accountable for claims they make, especially as this site is increasingly in the public eye through legal, medical and social awareness.

In this case, you’ve said you know “the cure”. When questioned further on this, you chose to give a vague answer that our bodies will heal themselves through nutrition (not true per reasons already stated above, plus the fact there are lawsuits over this problem because the issues can be persistent for some).

And when pushed further, rather than explain in more detail or provide scientific resources to support your claims, you now decide to run off. Such actions only make your claims less credible, not more.

Good luck to you if you are feeling better. However judging by your varied post history and actions here, I see no further reason to continue this discussion.