On a slightly different note do any of the other guys on here know how much their balls have shrunk? When mine were examined the doctor said “15 and firm”. I assume that this is on the tanner scale (see attached link). He seemed to think that this showed too much shrinkage for something like clomiphene to work for me for too long. Some sites report that testicle size is so consistent across the adult male population that a doctor can tell if a guy’s balls are too small just by feeling them, and it seems like most men don’t just have smaller or larger balls than normal. On the other hand I have read on the net that average size for a grown male ranges from 18-30. So is it possible that my balls were just sort of small to begin with, or has there definitely been severe shrinkage? I thought a guy’s balls got down to the size of raisins or about that size when they shrank. Also, is it normal for balls to be harder and softer throughout the day?
Can’t say for sure myself as I never had them measured b4 fin. All I can say this they are definitely significantly smaller than before… If I was in the shower before finasteride and grabbed one before it would span the width of all my fingers together. Nowhere near that size anymore, I have had them measured post finasteride they are roughly 16-17 ML if i remember. They can shrink to varying degrees for different reasons. My balls before fin were never harder or softer at different times usually kinda hard, now they are much softer.
about six months after quiting I was very worried about my ball size and had an ultrasound. They measured the testicle length - don’t have it in front of me but since then my doc says they are roughly 50% of that shrunken size. So yes - small.
For me also the biggest thing is how tight my scrotum and testicles usually are. Usually 1/2 days a week this will relax and it fells and looks far more normal. Unfortunately more days in the tight state.
Me too.
I have also seen conflicting reports on the net over whether lost ball mass is recoverable or not.
It depends. Our testicular mass loss seems to be due to something that has never been really documented before so there is no way to tell for sure. From what I have heard from some of the people that have recovered to some extent is that they did recover testicle size. cgj has a thread where he says he has fully recovered and regained his testicular size.
I would like to think it is somewhat recoverable. I am just not sure how/why. As I have detailed sometimes it is almost as if my balls “inflate” - there has to be some fluid/bloodflow connection - probably also related to our hormonal balance.
I also have noticed when under the weither - sick, hungover, etc. they are better. This is most likely due to higher body temp which would relax scrotum and let the hang more. Generally any day they “hang” is better and I notice more fullness. On these days they don’t come back to their prior size but probably 70%?
And as detailed earlier whenever I have a bowel movement I get severe shrinkage of the scrotum and testicles - something I never remember pre-fin or while on.
Yes I get this too STD. Honestly it may sound silly but this side effect is one of the ones that pissed me off the most along with the reduced flaccid size I seem to have and the cognitive side effects. I really hate not “feeling” them hang there like they used to. Feels funky, and then often times have that dull ache many of us here describe. I hope that many of us will see some size regained if and when this is ever solved.
Broken - this is the whole reason I started this thread. There are so many shades of PFS but there is a definitive group where this scrotal/testicular shrinkage is a primary issue (along with general flaccid penile shrinkage). We share some commonality - this is very different than folks with brain fog or just lowered libido, etc.
Without a doubt this is the worst side for me - the fact that we all share these same specific issues is important. We are a subset of the entire PFS community and protocols need to be designed for this subset. I refuse to believe this cannot be changed or helped and I also think there are some on these boards who have had imporvements in this very speciific area. We need to learn what exactly we can do to reverse at least a portion of this
The past few days for me have been mostly “decent” regarding my boys. They’ve hung on and off at good heights and have (for the most part) felt pretty hard. They’re still nowhere near the size they used to be (lengthwise) but I’m at least enjoying the fact that they are currently not really soft like they can be at times.
Alas I can receive no treatment for this until my doctor rules out a pituitary tumor…wonderful days ahead, I’m sure.
Thanks for being so active on this forum as of late guys…the conversation is uplifting.
I doubt you have the tumor, many of us have been checked for it via MRI and had it show nothing. I did not go as far as to have a inter-nasal blood test done as it is rather invasive and I doubt it would confirm anything. Once again these docs are looking for something they can pull out of their standard medical school diagnoisis training, not something completely novel which is what we have.
Has anyone found flagyl to aid ball size vs. helping flaccid size??
Guess not -although not related to small ball thread, how many have retained their Flagyl flaccid size improvements
What’s Flagyl, Scared? I’m seeing it’s an antibiotic but how would that help with our flaccid size or the size of our huevos?
More than a few folks on this board have had some measure of regaining their flaccid size using flgyl. Yes it is an antibiotic (fairly powerful). My guess is that it cleans out any junk in our tiny prostrates. But no effect on balls as far as I can tell…
Oh that’s interesting.
There are at least 4-5 folks who had a measure of improvement…
I’m one. Noticed a big difference by the 2nd day on flagyl. Girth remains good still.
Only thing keeping me from saying flagyl is 100% the reason is the fact it was the 3rd antibiotic I was on. Part of a prostatitis treatment. I’m still giving it a 90% chance.
If there’s one thing I recommend it’s flagyl.
VisionQuest also had good flaccid size gains with Flagyl. I know there were others - but not sure why…
Could be a few reasons.