Hi, I used Clomid this time for 20 days and quit it because it kills the remnants of my libido. Without it, there are at least some manifestations of libido. And with clomid it’s really bad. It does not noticeably affect the size of the testicles. He left only arginine. My erection for porn is normal, especially if at least once every two days or less. Only here, as in the mechanical mode, you make the device work without libido)) The last thing that did not badly support the more or less normal size of the testicles and a complex of herbal extracts. Our Russian company as an online store sells all kinds of vitamins, sports nutrition, supplements, herbal extracts. They have a libido complex, in different proportions there are 5-7 herb extracts that are commonly used for libido and erection. I bought such a jar about a year ago and then it did not help badly for libido and erection. Then I met just the girl through the tinder, and this supplement spurred the libido, once I just broke down and went to meet her))) Ie. she raises the libido even if not to the level that was before the accident, but better than the current level. And an erection from her is better and the quality of an orgasm. And the testicles are more lively and voluminous on it. But all these effects were while I was on the supplement. As I threw it, almost everything returned to its original levels. There are several herbs, and now I don’t know whether this is the effect of any one or they together help synergistically. I probably want to try it again, I think the libido from it will definitely become better, but I’m more interested in how the testicles will react this time. Earlier, when I did not notice that the testicles were shrinking, my whole head was full of thoughts about the loss of libido, but when I found out and noticed that the testicles were shrinking and then gradually shrinking, now the problems with libido were faded into the background, real complexes appeared. To summarize, I want to say that for now I think that the first thing to take for a test is maca extract or that complex for libido again. There is not enough money for everything; you have to experiment whenever possible. I have a theory that libido also depends on the size of the testicles and the amount of sperm. Because when I had an accident 5 years ago, my libido fell sharply, but then it was still at a normal level and the testicles were also good size. But over five years, the libido gradually decreased, the hormones remained almost unchanged, but the testes got better, because I have a feeling that in my case the process was started and the libido proportionally decreased with a decrease in the testes and secreted sperm. I think this is one of the reasons. And I speak specifically about myself and not the rest. I hope everything is clearly written, if not, Google translator is to blame))
Guys, is there anyone on the forum who has testosterone and gonadotropin levels low at the level of hypogonatism, but the testicles have not decreased in size?
Unfortunately I join this club. However my penile size and erection as well as sperm count and quality is back to normal, but my balls I donno why but kept small.
Don’t worry if T level and sperm are good. That is all your testicles are for…
Yeah i guess, but i wonder why balls got shrunken.
Btw my free T’s were low last time, but will check them again in a few weeks
Hi, how did you improve the erection and sperm quality?
I think it’s worth doing an analysis on the level of gonadotropins in addition to analysis on testosterone. I have a theory that testicular size is reduced due to low FSH levels.Therefore, I asked the question above whether anyone has diminished testicles with normal values of testosterone and gonadotropins
Hi @JEKA thx for feedback. Well I cant tell you an exact protocol how i improved my erection and sperm quality back. Even my sexual desire has risen a bit, along beard growth etc. So I think my DHT as well kicked back funtioning on tissues. Imo there are 2 types with sides on fin: one who get symptoms by high converting estrogens but AR are not completely shut down by it, or just a few. Other do get more or complete AR shutdown from sudden changes. So i guess im (fortunately) in the first category perhaps.
What I did to reduce my estrogens were 2 things: keto diet and cruciferous vegetables and light regular excersize. This diet and lifestyle can reduce body fat and aromatise, as well as detoxify your liver of excess estrogens.
So for me perhaps my estrogens have started to descend to normal level again.
As of the FSH level. It could be the reason indeed, I have FSH on pfs blood tests in the lower quarter. This value on the other hand could have been by high e2, which signals FSH not to produce more T’s since there are already high estrogens.
What do you think?
So you recovered T, LH/FSH levels even with shrunk testicles? I think this is possible though. Sertoli cells mainly depend on seminiferous tubes for healthy sperm production driven by FSH. From my reading each published study for the last year these tubes are the most fragile and thelr structure damaged the most easily causes volume loss when they are danagee. I am curious to understand your sperm count motility levels whicih I suspect didnt return.
I am just hoping we didnt have cell death at this point.
Also in balls size i noticed kind of fluctuation. Before having stools they shrink to a minimum. But after it, within a few hours they get a proper hanging, even if with smaller size than before, but with healthy appearance.
I’ll have my blood test next week. I’ll post its results in my story. Until then you may find my detailed blood works from earlier in my story to see what exactly happened to me:
My theory is that the size of the testicles depends on the level of gonadotropins, mainly on FSH, since most of the volume of the testicle consists of sertoli cells, the growth of which depends on the level of FSH. In the body, the level of gonadotropins decreases and therefore the testes begin to decrease in size to the current level of gonadotropins. When I first tried hCG, the testicles were then still medium in size and then they responded to hCG not badly and increased in size. But after some time, the effect of hCG disappeared and it ceased to affect the size of the testicles, only the effect on the level of testosterone remained. And this is not surprising, because hCG mainly consists of LH, because hCG mainly affects the level of testosterone produced, but not the size of the testicles. I think everyone with small testicles also have low FSH levels. And if my theory is correct, then we should go with such testicles further, because it is difficult to raise the level of FSH for a long time, if only to take clomid. I took Clomid more than once, but I did not notice any changes in the size of the testicles. But for this I would like to hear data on the levels of gonadotropins from other participants in this club))) We are waiting for your results
Here are my last results on em
FSH 5,9 IU/L (1,4 - 18,1)
LH 2,8 IU/L (1,5 - 9,3)
My testicle behavior is exactly the same)) During the day, their size changes. Perhaps this is due to a pulsating FSH, that is, its level changes many times a day. I also noticed that after orgasm they increase in size and become as dense as possible. Most likely this is due to increased production of gonadotropins during arousal and blood flow
Is it accoumpqined by testicular pain for you?
I have pain, but for another reason, I have a testicular cyst. When she was a little pain there was no pain at all, but now she is, but not strong and not constant.
Your gonadotropin level is also normal, but low levels. My FSH is a little worse than yours. And so I think this is the main reason for the decrease in testicular size.
Thx for you feedback!
I brought this upto my doc again during penile shock therapy today, he reaffirmed the volumes being good and long time lower FSH/LH wouldn’t cause shrinkage. I am almost certain my left one is half size or less what it used to be…We are in unknown waters…
Thx for the information man! How are your sexual sides along shrunken balls?
ED but good response to cialis, 350-400 T, low sperm motility (returns to normal with clomid).
Otherwise I lead a normal life…