I had to log back on for this … I have been turning around in my bed craving for sex tonight ! This has not happened in the last 3 years !! For the first time today, I kind of feel pre-fin !!! What a feeling … ok, it’s just been for an evening, but still.
I got some L-tyrosine that I started today also.
Not sure what’s going on, but it’s positive.
Rice is a known DHT inhibitornthe problem is that you measure DHT using blood serum, this is known to not be usefull way.
Focus more on how you feel or test the correct thing to measure 5AR activity.
Good to hear. I will not use L tyrosine. Or use it with caution. That stuff is very potent. I will change that for Mucuria pruriens 15% L dopa.
I have been having morning erections every day. My erevtions are perfevt but thats probably because Im umsuplementing with Pycogenol and L arginine.
Im going to eat Sorghum cooked all this week. I will try to eat 100g everday, but thats difficult. Let see if I see any differences.
Yeah that one of the things came to my mind. We cant be sure ofnthat but makes a lot of sense For thentime being we arr Sorghum fans. Im gooing to cook Sorghum everyday like I said beforr and see if I get better results. Its interesting becauae in other parts of my life in struggling these days, specially economically, but here I am with Daily mirning erection. In ny opinion cooked should work better I will see.
Here are the two first links I got just from typing “rice DHT”:
suppversity.blogspot.ca/2012/01/ … -rice.html
anabolicmen.com/testosterone-killers/
Probably worth going easy on rice …
Im trying to cook Sorghum this week and est around 100Gr Daily. Let see what happens. Very good results so far mirning erections continous and my mind is coming back like old days. Emotions seems to be coming back also.
Btw Im writing with my phone lately, thats why there some errors in my writing.
Greetings.
Did you even ready the study?
They were using highly potent rice bran extracts with high amounts of fatty acids.
1# Rice bran oil is the oil extracted from the hard outer brown layer of rice after chaff ( rice husk).
2# Extracts of this sort are not found in nature. Not one guy got PFS from eating saw palmetto berries. Youd have to eat a whole garden of saw palmetto to have any tangible effect on 5AR.
Eating white rice is literally going to do NOTHING to 5AR.
I cringe when i come onto this board and see people running away from basic nutritious food because it was a “5ar inhibitor” in some shotty non peer reviewed “study” either in vitro or some ridiculous extract that is nothing like the food.
Douglasmich, do you want to find things to cure yourself or you want to find things to stay in pfs forever? Because thats what I think you want.
There is a lot of people claiming pfs because eating Saw Palmetto…
I will not eat rice, anyways rice is useless as nutritious food, especially white rice.
BeLikewater
Mate ive had pfs for 4 years of course i want to get better.
My next trial is both C3 Curcumin extract & high dose turmeric
That’s why I was saying it’s hard to figure out what’s good and what’s bad ! It’s not all black or white. Rice, broccoli, nuts, avocado. Good or bad ?? I can find articles that claim it’s good and others that claim it’s bad. In doubt, I think it’s better to ne careful. I will try to cut down on rice, which means I may be going back to regular (gluten) pasta.
Is anybody else trying this out ??? I’ve been feeling great for the last 2 weeks, and I still feel things are improving. I have added probitics to my regimen, which seems to help. I am back on dating sites, and hopefully will be good to go all the way sometime soon (weeks or months?). It’s going to take alot of courage though … like going through a storm.
Here’s an update on what I am doing:
I’d like to hear if any other people are trying sorghum and if so, how are the results?
I will skip anything that damage 5AR activity thats for sure. All you need for testosterone is eggs, Vitamin A and thats its. Forget all other foods. High testosterone with PFS means crash. You cant get high testosterone if you dont fix 5AR first.
I like your protocol but I will change L-tyrosine for selegiling or Ginkko Bilboa. Thats if you are taking that to lower prolactin.
Call me idiot why you have to go back to pasta if you have potatoes and Soorghum for all the carbs you need in your diet. Sorghum cooked is very similar to rice. I could take that every day of the week.
Take also some estrogen inhibitor pls.
Guys, given all the stuff that makes us sick and the all the stuff that makes us better sounds like a liver problem, more specifically with P450 enzyme.
Here’s the evidence
-Finasteride is broken down by the P450 enzyme in the liver, the toxins from the drug can build up over time in the liver and fatty tissue
-Many people who have done fasting; coincidentally fasting cleans the gut (resets the immune system) and facilitates detox of the liver to discharge toxins into the gut.
-"The liver and prostate are sites of significant T metabolism. 5aR1 is abundantly expressed in the liver while 5aR2 is found at considerably lower levels. Also, 5aR1 is not abundant in the prostate, where 5aR2 is."http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435410/
-Although Propecia works mainly on 5aR2, it also inhibits 5aR1 in the liver
-The liver metabolizes Testosterone and is not regulated much by androgens
Here’s the coincidences
Things that help with PFS:
-Turmeric
-Sorghum
-Vitamin D
-Vitamin B complex
-Glutathione
-Calcium d-glucarate
-L-glutamine
-L-caritine
-Taurine
-Resveratrol (CDNUTs used this)
Things that detox the liver:
-Turmeric (phase 2)
-Vitamin C (reduces oxidative stress from liver detox)
-Vitamin D
-Vitamin B complex
-Glutathione (phase 2)
-Calcium d-glucarate
-L-glutamine
-L-caritine
-Taurine
-Resveratrol
-Milk Thistle (this is estrogenic so avoid)
Things known to harm PFS:
-Alcohol
-Caffeine
-Food additives
-Sugars
-Some oral pharmaceuticals
-Exhaust fumes (douglasamich suffers from this)
-Grapefruit (I’ve completely crashed after eating one grapefruit and had massive diarrhea)
-Artificially high Testosterone
-High estrogen
-High cortisol
Things the liver P450 enzyme must break-down:
-Alcohol
-Caffeine
-Food additives
-Sugars (particularly fructose)
-Some oral pharmaceuticals
-Grapefruit
-Exhaust fumes
-Paint fumes
-Pesticides
-Testosterone (Say, don’t we suffer from high estrogen and crash when trying to increase testosterone?)
-Estradiol
-Cortisone
Hmmm… is this all coincidence?
Look guys, I’m not trying to over simplify things by saying “aha it’s the liver” but I have an idea… how about we detox our livers first and then take tons of Shorgum to reactivate 5aR.
Guys, how much sorghum are you eating daily?
Admin: it’s been over a week my other posts are still awaiting approval!
Once or twice a day.
Hello guys…How are you doing? I dont write too much because I have some problems in me eyes lately non pfs related, and I write a lot in my blog on solvepfs.com I wish there were inly one site but ok…
Anyways I feel great, sexually speaking this 5ar protocol is working extremlly well regarding sex.
bk__ I got good results with fasting and other detox, but it not was untilnI started to focus on 5ar activators that the real me came back. Anyway your theory seems pretty valid anyways. I actually was going to make some test on my liver function. Finasteride is already knew to corrupt liver function.
Carbs and coffee doesnt seem to affect me bad like it did last yeat I dont know why.
Feels like an off day today. I don’t have the same stamina or energy. Hopefully it’s just a small glitch!
I want to do another 3-day fast very shortly. I’m curious to see how that will combine with sorghum. But it’s really hard to fin the right timing. Hopefully within the next 2 weeks.
Does anybody know if a 5-AR supplement exists (like a pill) ?
the tribulus that hopingformore or apr1989 used… at 3-5x the reccomended dose 3x a day… Cycled on and off
Hello me again. I have been having morning eevtions everyday for a long time. And Im symptoms free also. I will continue reporting.