Personally that’s a bit too much sitting, waiting, crying when life happens to you for my own tastes but fair enough everyone has their own view. Just thought I’d remind that Sage wasn’t the end all be all and if we promoted research then we could generate all kinds of other possibilities. Sage possibility came from research and research doesn’t just happen, someone needs to push it, namely us.
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I entirely agree with you on that point.
number 2 is a bad reason.
we work with what we can, and i think you might be making the wrong assumptions.
Based on the explanation that the mods have provided, it seems it’s a real long-shot. If it was free, sure, it would be a bad reason, as there is no cost incurred. But there is a cost.
An analogy is buying a lotto ticket for $200. There’s a one in ten thousand chance of winning. There’s a chance, but sometimes one cannot spare the money given the small probability of a payoff.
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Could we get hold of the product and get some pharmacy overseas to make it up from scratch for us as a generic version or would this be an oversimplification?
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If the majority of people in this community get more joy out of freeloading then they do out of contributing then we’re all fucked. It isn’t clever. It isn’t savvy. It isn’t getting one over on anyone except oneself. Needless to say, seeing how selfish many here are, I do start to feel like perhaps some kind of system should be created where people who contribute are able to benefit more or at least first. Right now selfishness is effectively rewarded 
It’s shocking to see how little people appreciate the thousands of hours and even frankly life work that some of the mods here are committing to help others.
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This is your own conclusion which I disagree with.
At the same time I do not claim to say the opposite. I hold no opinions
The problem with a relatively small number of people actually doing anything to help and a generally selfish and short-sighted tone in the community is that it demotivates the few that actually are contributing. It’s like a reverse snowball effect. In a society where the norm is to advance the common good, individuals have the sense that what they are doing is matched by others and therefore a good investment. When the norm becomes a freeloader majority, that transforms the contributors into fools, which of course drives them away and makes it smarter for them to invest their resources elsewhere. That’s basically why some cultures are exponentially more successful than others. One cultural majority produces a spiral upwards in individual benefits and the other produces a spiral downward. I guess it’s no wonder that Merck has benefitted from this community more than the actual victims have so far. We’ve got Harvard and Baylor effectively waving off other researchers with an engineered “nothing to see here”, and we’ve got no one advancing the victims. Mods here can’t do it alone. The founding premise of the foundation was to get propecia banned rather than cured anyway. Community members themselves seem to think they will get a cure just because the universe owes them something without any thought of what the actual mechanism of delivery to them would be.
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I agree, and I support the mods 100%
I understand a lot of what they are doing is to secure funding for more tests and research.
So how can we financially support the endeavours of the mods and admins? If i got it right (or wrong) donating to the foundation would just support the withdrawal of the drug from the market (which is certainly important) but not research towards therapies/cure?
Also, the EMA acknowledged persisting side effects of SSRIs but I don‘t see this ultimately translating into research efforts towards finding a potential cure. Still it‘s certainly helpful as by now these persistent effects cannot be denied any longer.
Could someone please explain to me the specific aims and - theoretical - action (business) plan that is supposed to be implemented in the nearer future when for instance enough surveys have been completed?
I‘m just wondering if any official confirmation of PFS would necessarily lead to important steps because as for PSSD I don’t see many frankly even though EMA has as mentioned acknowledged persisting side effects.
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Also maybe mods and admins want to get in touch with the German PSSD community as they recently visited a congress of psychiatrists/physicians and held a round table talk about PSSD and potential diagnostics/research with leading university doctors/opinion leaders of the medical community. This may be interesting and useful for eventually linking the efforts.
Well right now the best way to support the mods or admins here is to give them the data they need to carry out the research they have already put monumental time and effort into for us while few are even bothered to take a couple hours and couple hundred bucks (for dna test) to do their tiny part in. The link to the survey is at the right top of page and here’s info on the dna analysis: 23andme Patient Data Analysis. They are looking for PSSD and PAS sufferers especially.
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No worries I will complete the survey this week. I‘m just wondering what the medium- to long term steps may look like. Also I would like to donate but I don’t know to whom as I am unsure on how the money is supposed to be used. Not trying to overcomplicate things here but a brief outlook on the next planned steps after gathering enough data would be nice. I am impressed by the efforts of the mods and admins so far still my understanding and picture of the next objectives is rather vague.
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I appreciate that you are looking for ways to help. I’m just another member like yourself but it means a lot to see some interested in trying to help rather than only take. Here’s a new member action guide New user? START HERE and here is a thread where your question is discussed. My disappointment with the American foundation and these sites, too
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Uhm, guys. You can now get “allopregnanolone” on alibaba lmao.
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If the PFS is not enough for you, get new health damage by buying Chinese drug!
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Looooool
It’s OK, just make sure to order an extra liver with your allo on alibaba
Not totally outside the realm of possibility that it could be legit. Just not feasible having to fork out money for third party lab reports for each batch. Why aren’t there millionaires with PFS here?
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Does anyone know how much lab testing would be? I don’t particularly see why this would be fake. It’s not as if Brexanolone would particularly be a difficult drug to manufacture. The reason for the high cost from Sage is that they need to recoup the exorbitant costs of its development and trial. Chinese thief doesn’t have any of those costs.
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