Good luck with that, I hope you can get it.
I live in a high crime big city so I should, in theory, be able to get it, but I’m too much of a nerd to know how to buy drugs.
Paul Walters has been on the forum this week a couple of times, don’t think he had checked in for a looong time before that.
Might be good to get some more feedback from him. Unless he tells us he’s been taking propecia again for three years and we’re just a bunch of pussies. 
how do you know that? Honestly, seeing someone on the forum after a long time could only mean bad things… Especially if hes not saying anything…
Sometimes they’re brought by PM alerts.
GHB aside, has anyone tried this user’s combination protocl of Di-Indolin (is this the EXACT same thing as DIM?), Tribulis, and Androderm for 8 weeks?
He seems to suggest he fully recovered without the GHB…
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very interested to find this out as well. anyone try this (supposed) remedy?
I have tried all 3 at various times to no effect. What seemed to help the most for me was low dose T3 for a few weeks… but I crazy cortisol to Free T3 ratios. This did not recover me fully by any means however.
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Anyone else tried this? It is really weird how different protocols is used to recover. DIM and dht gel affects AR and Estrogen receptors. How these crazy protocols recover people? I have never seen a consistent theory.
The way people always think throwing around random abbreviations like “DIM” is cool, elite and a higher priority than talking sense and being easy to read is as usual unbelievable… and kind of hilarious (among other typical things).
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Maybe I should add this DIM to my actually DHT gel cycle?
It reduces estrogen it is good. But i have to read more papers about it.
Should we say diindolylmethane instead then?
I don’t understand. Recovery claim said he used Androderm ( a TRT patch I also used for a few months), but people here saying it was a DHT gel?
Also a person suspected of being involved with the pushing fake recoveries to sell GHB that was going on here long ago? That much isn’t clear though.
Hard to describe in a way that makes sense. Minimal, if any, effect at normal dose, or even a double dose for a couple weeks. I was doing well at work and started talking to a couple new potential gf interests around the time I started TRT and had aspirations about the future if it worked. Hard to say if it was the TRT or life circumstances around that time. Had a bad run after a couple months and quit. Not sure if it was shut-down or messing around with a Zoloft prescription that led to an even worse run following stopping the patches. After getting over that, there were a few-hour windows following triple, quadruple, or even quintuple, doses the first few times I tried it, then no effect on consecutive attempts.
More details here: *** Post your experience with androgen supplementation HERE (DHT / TRT) ***
Thanks for that detail. Would you consider trying it again?
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No.
My free T was high on the last couple tests, total T in the 700s, DHT on the higher side, and E2 on the lower. Symptoms were worse then than when my T and free T was on the lower end. Not going to attempt TRT again with a lack of obvious hormonal abnormalities.
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It’s a genuine curiosity as to why some guys benefit from TRT, some experience no benefit and why it makes some feel worse. If only there was a way of predicting based on test results and symptom presentation as to who would be a likely candidate to benefit from such a treatment.
this is a very interesting video. it pretty much sums up everything i have been going through, i applaud both participants for taking the time and for their strict lifestyles to obtain the level of recovery they are at. Michael says ghb had a great deal with raising his baseline. i believe him and if i could get some i wouldn’t hesitate for a second to try it.
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Thats pretty good. Who are these guys? Have they posted on here? So one person took Finasteride and the other Accutane?
Something he said, I remember thinking the same thing sometimes when I was younger.
I almost thought I felt better when I didnt eat.
Like he said though thats not sustainable and it shouldnt be that way.