Thanks for the detailed report, JG. Hope you recover from those hardcore antibiotics!
He makes it sound so easy. 
For me almost three months post treatment
Prostatic issues: pain, burning, heat all over my penis and testicles are very low now and have sustained at that level
Ejaculation: clearer, stronger, more in terms of semen amount
Erection strength: much much better, very strong erection, despite the 5am to 8pm work shifts daily
- nevertheless still feel numb penis when i drink alcohol or some other times
Biggest problem: testicular size still dropping albeit much slower which seems to be now mostly related to the prostate problem and the low dht
Nevertheless i have raised dht levels post treatment and that is clearly shown from the very extensive urine tests i underwent in belgium
Hair loss all over body recovered
Strength is and remains better, in a period of 3 months now i only had once or twice drop of strength, if you exempt the 2 week wash out period from the antibiotics
Thinking of running antibiotics+nolvadex to see if this will give some boost to my testicle size
Thats all
Other than that the other solution is to go back to the doc and do the massages probably in 6 months for another 2-3 weeks and see if i am completely clear, since bacteria tend to resensitize at some times to antibiotics if not used consecutively, at least thatâs what i ve seen with other infections in hospitals
Apart from that, donât know what else to suggest, howâs the rest of the trials going with Awor etc etc??
Solon
currently are you taking any supps or TRT? or any Vitamins etc?
I was wondering how does one know if they have an inflamed prostate and an infected prostate are there varying symptoms to each? Or whatâs the best to test for each condition.
I ainât taking nothing for the last 3 months.
Only alcohol deteriorates my condition nowadayas.
Apart from that everything is stable
Nothing like pre-prostate treatment period
I am not saying it is 100% cure but it is a definate solid improvement for me. I can sit 5 hours a day in a chair without issues, lift weights, drink coffees/ sugars, have sex and feel overall pretty good. I only have a dropping of testicle size at a very low but still annoying rate.
This is the only mystery that remains for me, albeit not that of a mystery, i understand the reasons yet cannot still find the perfect solution. Maybe a 100% clear prostate, maybe a further boost in the whole of the hormonal,anti-inflammatory mechanisms, yet for the first time in all them years i walked on the right direction even if i didnât completely finish treatments.
Yep mate, i definitely have the same problem. I am not sure when i developed this condition but I would say about one year ago. I stopped taking proscar 3,5 years ago and my problems have worsen over the last year remarkably.
I could not find information regarding this stuff but when I told my last uro about the coldness of my testicles and the calcifications he didn´t seem to be very worried. He prescribed me a standard protocol for prostatitis 3 months ago that i haven´t followed as I was expecting to have a more profound feedback from the people who went to Kos. Seeing that not many got remarkable improvements I am considering to go through those drugs (cipro, ibuprofeneâŚ) to see whether i can reach a partial improvement at least. Moreover, my ED and penis have also worsen over the last year⌠And i need to go to pee too often too. If this is not prostatitis, i don´t know what else it may be. Btw, no pain at all and i can seat with no issue. Something that i can be happy for.
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you can go for prostatis check but to me (as I have undergone real legitimat prostatis, and my main reason for taking saw palmetto) this present condition is totally different. It is because of weak sphinctor on our bladder. since after the crash testosterone level has dropped (even it did not drop our body is not responding) it has weakend our muscles and valves. you can verify my theory by visiting urologist. I am having now frequent urinations at night, and My urologist told me my prostate is not bigger but a little smaller.
Yep, well, your theory suits pretty well in theory. I did not say that i had a prostate echo done 3 months ago, i don´t have the results with me right now, but two different uros agreed that there was inflammation and then protatitis. As i said no pain and no noticeable feelings down there apart from a really soft penis, frequent urination and massive ED.
Any ideas whatsoever how to get rid of this nightmare? BTW, my T levels were âpretty goodâ when I stopped taking finas and so are they now tooâŚ
reeeff
after starting vit D night urination has decreased a great deal but not 100%.
you can try Vit D3.
Ok i will look into it but i checked my Vit D and it was ok tooâŚ
I wonder what happened to this thread?
Congrats.
Iâm always happy to hear people make any sort of recovery.
Did you ever test your fertility?
Prostatitis aside for a moment. There is every chance that finasteride just completely fucked up our prostates in one way or another.
Well said. Canât speak for all, but this is the case for me.
This is pretty scary
usrf.org/news/070703_finasteride/Longtermeffectsof6D1E3.pdf
Honestly, i think the extent of the damage to the prostate and surrounding things such as the seminal vesicles etc could be very severe.
While i am here, i would like to ask - is the case closed on Georgiadis then? it seems like nobody apart from Solonjk has gained any benefits from the treatment whatsoever.
Put prostate aside
put libido aside
how can we stop osteoporosis and muscle degeneration?
No, I donât think it is, I believe some people still need to recover from the prostate massages and antibiotics, but unfortunately some of them are tired of defending themselves and the treatment.
hey Solonjk, can you write about your entire experience with the prostate massages and what drugs you took while there???
I am one of the guys who has done the treatment in Kos with Dr. Georgiadis.
Unfortunately, I am worse than before the treatment. I am very scared as my erection quality does not return to pre-treatment. I have much weaker erections (I am not able to get a full erection anymore - no matter what I try). Furthermore, my penis is very red and it has not returned to pre-treatment state either.
I am sad that I have even worsened my condition through the treatment. I was very skeptical before and during the treatment. However, I was desperate and wanted to to something. Now I am in a mess even more.
People were warned about this. The prostate plays a role in penile health and erections, via prostatic nerve bundles etc.
Further damage to the prostate (ie, intensive âpressure massagesâ from a doctor) that disturb the tissue/vascularity in a negative manner could have detrimental impacts. Further, the use of powerful black-box quinone-based antibiotics to treat what was likely a non-existent infection in the first place (based on possible dubious diagnoses) probably also took their toll on your body in a damaging way.
Sorry you are in this state but one should remain skeptical and evaluate all information logically, not emotionally, before making decisions. I can understand your desperation to want to try something, but as weâve seen throughout this thread, there were many red flags raised early on.
Hopefully you will recover in time.