Prostatitis treatment as a novel insight into Finasteride related problems

General Discussion
#1485

Wow. Hats off to you guys that are going to persist with the treatment and keep going back. If PFS is a tough case, you must be looking at well over $20,000 in costs to go back a few times. If prostatitis is my issue, i can officially say that i am fucked because unless i win the lottery, there is no way i could ever do that.

As a urologist, does Georgiadis prescribe finasteride?

19, when i said ‘cold’ i meant weather/ temperature specifically. Apparently it is even a big cause of prostatitis for men that are susceptible. Can i ask you; with your pains are they constant? have they ever gone away? right now i am getting aches all over my perineum area but i do not often suffer pains. The one time i suffered quite a bit - tenderness in stomach/ gut area, prostate ache was when i was actually feeling very good!

#1486

I’m starting to have second thoughts about Solonjk. What did he really accomplish here?

Most notably he got a bunch of people’s hopes up for an unproven (and what appears to be failed) regime funneling, I assume, 10s of thousands of dollars into a single greek doctor and he deleted his entire post history, effectively abusing the post editing privilege enough (along with some minor help) so it’s taken away from everyone.

Is there any good news other than knowing another failed cure in these, what is it now, 76 pages of posts?

#1487

All i know is if i talked a few guys into upping sticks and going to Greece for a month to go through some brutal therapies, is that id stick around instead of disappearing like a thief into the night.

He can come on here and post whatever tripe he wants as some sort of self-justification but the facts are the facts. He couldn’t post enough when he was talking the treatment up. Now loads of guys have took his advice, and put their balls on the line (literally) he disappears. I’m not interested in his “reasons” because nothing excuses this in my opinion, nothing. He’s pissed all over this board if you ask me

#1488

could be that solon prefers PM the greece people instead of post here ?

#1489

So he suddenly “prefers” to PM people, now? Not good enough.

The whole thing stinks. If it was legitimate it would stink even more because its being hidden from the board and if it’s not successful it stink too. Obviously the truth is somewhere in between. We can gather that pretty easily (thanks to other posters, not Solonjk who just decided to go off on a tangent and talk about removing his prostrate and other rivoting stuff)

Look: The whole thing went from being very transparent and open for all to discuss (it became the biggest thread on this board) to it being hidden and discussed behind closed doors. How very shady and inconsiderate.

It’s pretty sad that Solonjk isn’t posting in this thread but guys who went over to Greece and are now having complications are. That’s the long and the short of it.

#1490

imao for sure solon had a strange behaviour (deleting post ecc) but at same time he preferred to hide because here get a ton of bad words.

maybe the pression here was too much to be beared

other hypothesis?

make georgiadis “rich”?

#1491

Not at all, even if that was the net result.

All im saying is you have to be very careful not to get carried away with unproven approaches to a point you are talking other people into trying them at the risk of their financial welfare, health and indeed, sanity. It’s pretty wreckless the way he posted SO much about how this was an iron-clad cure only HALF-WAY through his own treatments. That’s the key for me; if he posted about all this after making a strong or even full recovery then you wouldn’t blame him for it, but now im not even convinced how much tangible improvements he actually made such is his credibility at this point.

Granted, he might have been excited but he had to balance that against the sheer moral responsibility on his shoulders. Not to mention, ive seen him at all “certain” about other hypothesis’ in the past. You don’t advertise / sell a doctor aggressively in the manner he did before even having his own sessions completed. Seriously, how ridiculous is that?

The way to hell is paved with good intentions. His intention may have been good but he didn’t stand up to any controversy and now he’s left a mess behind him. Worse still, all of this looks bad for the whole prostatitus theory, even though i actually believe there may be considerable merit to it in some way or another.

That’s my final word, my opinion has been well documented in the last few posts.

If you’re reading this Solonjk - man up and get back in here if you’ve anything constructive to add.

#1492

Anyone else experienced very sharp pains in the groin/ prostate area and urgency when needing to use the toilet for a n1 and n2.

#1493

I get the sharp shooting pains maybe once a month, sometimes more sometimes less. But it has never happened while going to the restroom

#1494

anyone tried prostate massager like aneros ?
i would prefer avoid but i read that prostate sufferers got benefits

#1495

Has anyone thought about doing some of the things that worsen prostatitis to see whether they find a correlation? this is something that can be very useful with mystery/ difficult illnesses. For example some people with IBS have to go and have a load of grain products and some alcohol before they truly know what is affecting them.

Maybe eating a load of spicy foods and then getting intoxicated is a good test? in the early days of PFS for me i actually felt much better ‘sexually’ after drinking a lot of alcohol. I haven’t touched a drop for months now but i will be soon. I will look out for any clues with my prostate/ pelvis.

#1496

People have to distinguish and separate:

  1. Solonjk redirecting the board to the prostatitis theory [GOOD]
  2. Solonjk’s subsequent erratic behaviour [BAD]
  3. Dr. G’s methods of treating CP [FAIR/GOOD]
  4. Dr. G’s methods of treating PFS [VALUE UNKNOWN]

I think most of us can agree on the first three points.

The jury is still out on the fourth point. Xhorndog is a man of integrity, not a shill of any kind, and he has written passionately about Dr. G’s knowledge and willingness to help PFS sufferers. I believe him when he says Dr. G is genuinely interested in helping us and reducing our suffering.

I’m not sure what Dr. G promised our forum members before their treatments, but I would suggest he put it like this: “I treat CP sufferers. I believe my treatments for CP sufferers MIGHT also help PFS sufferers, but I cannot promise to cure you. With this understood, if you wish to come, I will treat you”.

#1497

Who is Dr. G? Goldstein?

#1498

this is good suggestion. I remember vinegar and banana (any thing with high potassium content) used to cause a lot of discomfort to me.
But even if they find the cause ( I never disagree that people have prostatitis) and treat prostatis they will not get well, since only prostate alone is not the reason for our problems.

#1499

Assumption one is false/unknown until solonjk, or anyone for that matter, has lasting improvement from the treatment.

Assumption 3 is irrelevant for those who developed prostate problems as a result of finasteride.

All that is left is bad/ unknown with low probabilities of being good. The reason this thread got so much attention is that someone claimed success. Very similar to JNs thread. However there are no known long term benefits yet and given how the body adapts downward with PFS, as the main proponent and initial subject of this theory found out, the probabilities are not good for miracle long term benefits through physical manipulation.

#1500

This is as real as it gets. Although you should throw in that Solon said that Dr G had cured people who got CP from inflammation from Fin (BAD) (he mentioned this in the early stages of this thread).

#1501

And you question Solon’s advice… LOL

BTW I don’t think Solon is advising anyone to rip out their prostate is he? I think he’s more sharing his concerns and what he is thinking with a bunch of like minded guys who are all suffering from the same affliction.

As far as Greece goes, anyone who is naive enough to take someone’s advice of an internet forum and go to another country carries the responsibility of doing so. I went partly on Solon’s advice, but mostly on the Doctor’s advice that he was 100% sure I had prostatitis.

And I did.

#1502

Name one person from here who has completed treatment with Dr G?

And even if no-one gets better, is it not reason enough, that we all share the same symptoms AND diagnosis? It’s not like we went there and were told there is nothing wrong with our prostates, quite the opposite.

If you can’t see the value in persuing this angle then I don’t know what else to tell you.

#1503

It’s your forum Mew. Do whatever you think is fair…

#1504

Oh yeah, because eating a load of spicy foods and drinking alcohol can be compared to a prostatectomy :unamused:

This type of thing is actually a proven method of diagnosis with tricky conditions, especially things like intolerances and bowel/ gut issues.

What is a few days/ weeks of suffering compared to a life of misery?