Your prostrate will probably take a while to recover. Problem is, it was supposed to recover from finasteride and it didn’t so lets hope it can demonstrate better natural healing powers now. Obviously that’s what Dr G will anticipate however im somewhat worried about the sheer absense of positive feedback thus far!
J89,
Unfortunately, I have similar symptoms. I am really worse than before the treatment and it is already two and a half weeks since I left Kos!
Fist of all my ejaculation volume has decreased significantly and my semen is watery now (I have never had that semen consistancy before). When I have an orgasm I sometimes don’t have any ejaculate coming out at all! I have NEVER had that before. It is very scary. Furthermore, I have very poor erections now. In fact, erections have never been so bad for me in tje entire time after finasteride.
I really hope things improve with time, even though I am off the treatment for almost three weeks by now.
Have you spoken to the doc about this? Emailed him?
That’s all pretty shit. To think that I’d actually booked a month off work to go to Greece too.
The plot thickens.
Regardless of how this all transpires, im pretty disgusted at Solonjk’s handling of all of this. Talks all these guys into going to Greece to see Dr G, then deletes all his posts and comes back and talks about removing his prostrate. Moreover, he’s now got a newly found “chill bro, don’t believe all you read” attitute.
Sorry Solonjk, you were a friend but you’ve neglected your duties in this thread and i think you’ve let yourself, and more importantly, the members you talked into doing things (before you even finished your own treatment) down I mean, you were here raving about how you had everything solved - i appreciate you were excited but did you ever stop to think what you were doing or perhaps think that if you were truely right then it’d be proven over time in your own case?
You’ll probably reply to this in a few weeks when you can be arsed to log in again and see the mess you’ve created (such is your lack of regard) and take a hissy fit but it’s not about sentiment it’s about facts and the fact is you’ve acted appallingly whatever your excuse.
Did you also feel this way prior to taking finasteride? Pre fin I would sometimes get erections if my bladder was full for too long but do not recall ever getting shrinkage from a full bladder.
I’m sad to hear this but honestly not surprised. It’s the true problem we face with PFS, gains from all current known treatments on the group as a whole are ineffective, only temporary, or minimal. Honestly I don’t think solonjk is a troll but it is really weak that he deleted his entire post history to bolster his current theory which I think he proved is ineffective.
Fingers crossed for some luck with Awor’s study.
I imagine the “after-care” isn’t something you can get too excited about.
Let me guess
“Oh yeah, you need more sessions: come back to Greece…don’t forget to bring your wallet”.
Sorry but a trend has developed here and it’s going to take alot of momentum to shift things the other direction. I’m angry because all of us became emotionally invested in this shit.
I’m not saying the prostatitus theory is out the window. No way. But im saying Dr G’s magical cure clearly is.
Although Solonjk didn’t act with any malintention, he’s been very wreckless as ive outlined above.
Solonjk has always been a little “OTT” with pushing ideas. I recall on another forum he told me my testosterone was high because i had little to no DHT. He told me that as a fact - not up for debate. Of course, i measured my DHT and it was really high, also. He’s always shown a tendancy to use his own experience as one that should apply to everyone else. E.g. “Don’t use aromasin because it made my balls sore”, don’t manipulate hormones because it didn’t work for me etc etc…
Let’s not forget Solonjk has been an extreme sufferer. I suspect his condition goes far beyond PFS. He was bed-ridden for months, if not years.
In sum, we should learn to be very careful with people’s opinions and even their own experiences because everyone is different, ultimately. Even if dexa proves a cure for me, i won’t be starting a massive thread telling everyone to do exactly as i did.
MartimM, i would also get erections upon a full bladder or bowel before post finasteride symptoms came about. I have to say, this does make me think my prostate is not as it should be.
I really hope you guys that are getting worse after treatment get better soon, do not despair. This whole post finasteride business quite frankly, takes the piss. A bunch of us pay over 5K to go and see some miracle prostatitis healer and get worse, and i take finasteride and get better for 10 days. What gives?
Is there ANY possible way that we can rule out prostatitis? does prostatitis go into remission ever? if it doesn’t, then how could brief recoveries that many of us have felt happen?
Chronic prostatitis can be very difficult to treat and guys with it can have lifelong problems. So we definately can’t rule it out but im starting to question Dr G’s ability. That said, im prepared to wait and see before making any real conclusions.
prostatitis symptoms can came and go in erratic way
on sexual side, pfs is really a prost like illiness.
if we think that prostatitis is hardly manageble, we can expect the same on pfs
Guys please why don’t you listen to me!
I have been a real patient of prostatitis from 1992 to almost 2003. I know prostatis very well. What we are having is not real prostatitis at all. Why dont you understand this.It can not be treated with antibiotics. if there is some relief this is because of antibiotics which many have experienced without going for prostatis treatmen any way. What is wrong with you guys?
I had had no sexual problems at all. Absolutely no sexual problems. Indeed my sex drive was always through the roof for all of these years.
What we are having is not sexual problem indeed. It is androgen deprivation and what you are treating is different kind of prostate swelling. And BTW this swelling is in all over in our body parts. We are having inflammation in our stomach, intestines, joints, liver, pancreas and some even in brains.Look at viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4887&p=39440#p39440
I and few other have got severe tissue damage in heavily DHT dependent areas like prostate and Anus. I indeed bled for many months after pooping. And the user paximperia (Can some body correct me?sorry I am forgetting the exact ID here, He is the guy who committed suicide.)wrote that after using Dutesteride his penis was bleeding. Now which prostatis will cause penis bleeding?
Why you guys are closing your eyes and burring your heads in the sand when there are a lot of studies showing cellular /tissue damage after using 5ARis. I have posted many times here. just search the forum.
If you are so hell bound on treating your prostate then the best bet is take some tissues from prostate for biopsy. Have some good lab look at them for morphology and scar tissues.
I can bet many here will ultimately end up with worse symptoms than ever before.The example of Solon is here. He wants to remove his prostate now.
Approach it scientifically, not traditionally. Get some Labs involved and have your tissues studied for cell damage or fibrosis If you are still want to hit your prostate then Good luck with your remaining sexuality.God bless us all.
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Ok, I see your point.
But still, given what you’re story says
- You didn’t have prostatitis, you had Benign prostatic hyperplasia
- You didn’t take finasteride, you took saw palmetto
Anyways, let’s suppose that your right. This has absolutely nothing to do with prostatitis and we’re a bunch of fouls.
Why the obsession with this thread? You’re clearly not convincing anybody.
We got your point; can you give different arguments about it? No? Then you can let go this thread, we’ll take care, see if there’s any improvement with prostatitis therapies; if not, we will let this thread go too.
Except for Solon, there’s no other prostatitis fundamentalist;some of us are checking this, some other guys are checking awor’s study, some other guys are checking something else. That’s how it works I guess.
For the love of God spstriken, can we PLEASE move away from this whole “I feel like this therefore “we” all fit into what i think” mentality.
Seriously, Mew, im sure you’ll agree, not only is this attitude irritating and obnoxious, but it’s bloody wreckless and dangerous for new posters who automatically accept what these “authorities” are posting.
Everyone should get their own health examined and threat themselves accordingly, so far as possible
Just want to follow up on the post by 19;
I have too have noticed that my sexual problems are at their worst when i need to pass stools,
or to put it more bluntly … when i need to take a shit.
I am still convinced on the prostate theory and that our sexual problems are due to inflammation/irritation of the prostate.
I think the prostate becomes infected and is being reinfected due to an inflammation of the large intestine AND/OR from leaky gut syndrome where bowel toxins are leaking through the wall of our colons from bowel herniations or diverticuli, into the bladder and the prostate gland causing prostate infection/irritation.
Thats my gut feeling. (no pun intended)
I have emailed Dr Georgiadis about this and asked him for his advice.
I might ask my local doctor for a referral for an abdominal CT scan to check for abdominal irregularities.
Good post.
In that case, then prostrate treatment isn’t treating the root cause. Treating the gut would be. Then after that you could go abotu treating the prostrate if it didn’t repair naturally.
That would be one big nightmare. We would all need a miracle doctor or of course maybe living like a monk for 5 years could sort it out.
Well, I don’t know about leaky gut and all that, but the guys here always tell that the main cause of prostatitis is colon; that is why they insist on changing your diet so that you basically shit better, and less times(ideally, a good dump in the morning and just that). The sitz baths also have to do with this I think. They even recommend an enema, to make sure everything is as clean as possible.
When i crashed i had a few typical prostatitis specific symptoms, in fact it felt as if my prostate was being visciously attacked, it was a truly horrifying experience. They have all cleared up now though so i don’t know what to think. As usual i guess it’s best to NOT think at all and just wait and see how you guys treating prostatitis in one form or another get on.