The cure for brain fog…get your brain removed?
You gays dont make me laugh.
I am emotional some times and think of the most extreme.
But i met up this guy who did it and he looked ok
So is my father, his sex drive is ok too, despite having PC, who said it kills anything? Don’t believe all those articles you read jesus.
Its robotically done nowadays and no nerves are cut.
Don’t get over excited and immediately attack me
I am happy with my erections, erectile strength and general overall situation but i wanted to do the treatments 2 years earlier to preserve the original status of my balls. Now i have a big dick with small balls its a funny picture.
Too bad you didn’t show up, now you would be playing with your dick all day like me
SpStriken, Frustrated and some others…
Pff the same haters, jealous, arrogant non believers still attack my posts.
Why do you care so much about our treatment procedure and sexual well being or not?? Don’t you have your own issues to care about??
Is it just because you are jealous?
What did you offer till now to fellow sufferers?? Ok some of us took the risk and spend the cash tolerated the pain to find a solution so that the rest get an easier way out.
Its not easy. The easy part is to hide behind a monitor and judge everyone.
The most disgusting stance i have seen in my life. Sit and judge. Instead of doing something. Bring something positive to this forum for a change
You think all this is hocus pocus??,
Wrong its a medical treatment. Prostatic massages + antibiotics, what’s so funny about it so that it makes you take the piss out of it?
Go to some other forum and play your dirty jealous part there
Probably you are unwanted everywhere you go because of your hatred thoughts
By the way and thanks Mew for not letting me erase my posts any more
Spstriken, i feel sad for you because you will never get better with this attitude.
And when you try to do something to get better, even the most logical, don’t be surprised if i take a bad piss out of you
Solonjk we’re all trying to make the best of a bad situation.
You’re talking about ripping out your prostrate. That’s worse than starting a combination of dustateride and proscar IMO as it’s effects are almost certainly going to be drastic.
“Don’t believe everything that you read?” — are you serious, man? Most of us are here because the cries from other PFS sufferers feel on deaf ears. It’s foolhardy to endorse such a wreckless attitute.
Anyway, as Mew says, you’ll not get a doctor to do this. And rightfully so.
I trust you’ll have a rethink and realise you should be grateful you’ve regained good erections and penile size which is something that i would do almost anything for.
SolonJK, I am not a jealous hater. I think you are somewhat delusional and bring sensationalist claims to the forum that truly distract the attention and efforts of members who could devote their time more efficiently.
For the record, one of the doctors I saw was an expert in surgery induced erectile dysfunction. I don’t doubt, however, that Dr. Georgiadis will be likely to perform the surgery on you or refer you to somebody who would.
After your latest tirade about prostate surgery, I would be shocked if more than 5 members on this forum thought you were credible. I think we should consider throwing him to the wolves. He clearly has very little, if anything to offer to PH, and has provided a severe distraction for more than the past 3 or 4 months.
Am I the only one who thinks solonjk might be trolling? He can’t be for real, it’s just…impossible
This is silly. Makes no medical sense to remove prostate. None. When its gone there is no coming back.
Solonjk don’t be an idiot. If you have recovered somewhat be happy with that and look elsewhere for ways to improve. We are not attacking you just the idea of removing the prostate accomplishes nothing and is dangerous. If finasteride messed us up this is far worse.
This thread gripped me at the start and I too got seriously excited about everything - seriously thought about going to Greece. It all just seems like a farce now.
By the way and thanks Mew for not letting me erase my posts any more
Spstriken, i feel sad for you because you will never get better with this attitude.
And when you try to do something to get better, even the most logical, don’t be surprised if i take a bad piss out of you
Solon seriously you have lost sanity. I wrote you in pms, I chalanged this theory in the begining, I wrote my own personal exprience with prostatitis and asked you questions which you never answered ( because you have no answers) instead you called me liar. No doubt you have strong writing power, which I don’t have. nevertheless you made wrong use of this capability and missled so many innocent youg boys here. I am scared there are some desperate sufferers who will now believe you and will take this route too and the end result? more suicides?
If I would be moderator of this forum I would lock this thread.This thread has reached its death. There is no point to mumble any more.
Solon I appreciate (we all appreciate) your efforts.
Well guys, as it has been already said, anybody is free to try any treatment/surgery or whatever he thinks to reach some improvement, so Solon can have his prostate removed/operated or whatever, if that is what he wants. It´s his decision, although many of us don´t support this idea. This is clear already.
As this thread is mainly covering prostatitis treatment (in Kos or wherever) and Solon´s credibility is on the spot, I would like to hear from some of those guys who have been in Greece recently or have tried to cure their prostatitis lately so that we could discuss better whether or not move on with this theory.
In my case i would like to treat myself for prostatitis and really would like to have some feedback from these guys.
Seems the only one claiming anything more than marginal improvement is solonjk himself.
I regret that I have come to Kos. Seems I was desperate enough that I believed only one guy who claimed to have become better.
I wouldn’t throw the whole prostate theory out the window just yet, it seems like some people did have some positive results from Dr. G in Greece, being able to recover morning erections would be worth the trip and money for many of us.
I still think there’s some merit to the prostate theory.
I regret that I have come to Kos. Seems I was desperate enough that I believed only one guy who claimed to have become better.
Are you under the impression that a robotic prostatectomy has less chance of causing the sexual problems usually associated with a prostatectomy? the article below indicates the very opposite.
europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838%2809%2901172-5/fulltext
You started this thread, raving on about the importance of the prostate and how it is at the centre of male health and virility. Now, after you have convinced a considerable number of men to follow the same expensive treatment as yourself and none of them have reported real improvements, you return to the thread and announce that you want your prostate removed altogether. This seems bizarre to me, i am sorry.
I could sort of understand if you were suffering from severe symptoms of chronic prostatitis, i.e. debilitating pain etc. But your issues are the same as all of us right? so, how on earth is a treatment that is well known to cause complete impotence going to help you? i can only assume that your logic is that removing the prostate and consequently prostatitis altogether will improve your symptoms and you will secure your sexual functioning and testicles.
I wish you the very best of luck Solonjk. I don’t think anybody is ‘hating’.
But i met up this guy who did it and he looked ok
So is my father, his sex drive is ok too, despite having PC, who said it kills anything? Don’t believe all those articles you read jesus.
But have you asked Dr. G about it?
You will not, for example, ejaculate anymore (robotic or not).
Its robotically done nowadays and no nerves are cut.
Don’t get over excited and immediately attack me
I’m not attacking, I still beleive that you made improvement for everybody by broadening the focus by including the prostate as a factor.
You, like no other, felt the importance of a healthy prostate for your well being; so going for the prostatectomy makes no sense.
I’m not judging, I’m not hating. I don’t care about your credibility, prostatitis theory’s status, etc. But think at least that you can’t go back after this. So just because you met 2 guys who say they are ok after removing it, going for it its a bit wrong (GIVEN what you’ve experienced with your prostate getting better).
Seems the only one claiming anything more than marginal improvement is solonjk himself.
Well, i haven´t really counted the exact number of guys who went to Kos last summer, but it was quite significant in my view, at least based on comments here. I reckon we should also hear from them on this post reporting whatever improvements they got so far.
I also support the prostatitis theory and the fact that treating it may be very beneficial to us, but to be honest, i would not spend loads of money to get morning erections back or semen less watery whether i don´t get my libido and strong erections (not to say the capability to have 2 or 3 orgasms a night, which has been inconsiderable to me for over the last 3 years). That would be a real success. The rest are precarious and unworthy benefits to me.
You gays dont make me laugh.
I am emotional some times and think of the most extreme.
Solonjk, just thinking something but not posting about it, vs. posting about it as if you are serious and will undertake it (and making such a suggestion available to the guys here), are two completely different things. Morally speaking, if someone were to follow through with your advice and undergo a prostatectomy, and then be completely impotent for life – how would that make you feel?
There are a lot of desperate men on this site and you would think you’d have a moral responsibility to ensure they don’t needlessly put their health at risk or end up worse off compared to their current state after Finasteride.
The fact you were “just thinking about it” without stating as such when you posted, which then influences someone to (hypothetically) undertake the procedure and have their sexual function decimated for life, when it was all just thoughts in your head… you have a responsibility to think before you post, about what type of actions could result from WHAT you post.
But i met up this guy who did it and he looked ok
So is my father, his sex drive is ok too, despite having PC, who said it kills anything? Don’t believe all those articles you read jesus.
I’m sorry but this is simply senseless, baseless opinion and proves absolutely nothing.
“i met up this guy who did it and he looked ok” – WTF does that even mean? Did you examine his penis and balls? How would you know if he even had his prostate removed? Sounds like you are very gullible or very easily influenced to make decisions based on no scientific evidence about why you should.
“So is my father, his sex drive is ok too, despite having PC, who said it kills anything?” – what does “So is my father” mean? You mean hes taking Finasteride, has prostatitis, or underwent a prostatectomy?
Don’t believe all those articles you read jesus.
Right, and we should just disregard published medical science about the effects of prostatectomy and blindly trust you, an anonymous user who deletes his entire post history off this site after starting this entire thread, convincing people to spend thousands to go to Greece, and then comes back at the end to claim he wants his prostate removed, with no understanding of the consequences… sure.
Its robotically done nowadays and no nerves are cut.
Even if that is the case, the prostate, as you know, plays a very important role in men’s sexual function, penile health, erections, ejaculation, and even androgen metabolism. It’s not just about avoiding getting nerves cut – you are REMOVING it altogether. There is no going back from this and it will have a severe impact in many areas FOR LIFE.
Don’t get over excited and immediately attack me
Then don’t post BS if you aren’t serious, and are instead just “thinking some thoughts”, without prefacing your comments as such.
I am happy with my erections, erectile strength and general overall situation but i wanted to do the treatments 2 years earlier to preserve the original status of my balls. Now i have a big dick with small balls its a funny picture.
And somehow you think getting your prostate removed is going to help your balls, huh? If anything, you’ll end up with penile fibrosis and genital shrinkage after prostate removal, along with complete ED, so your dick size will match that of your small balls.
Too bad you didn’t show up, now you would be playing with your dick all day like me
More taunting and useless crap.
Pff the same haters, jealous, arrogant non believers still attack my posts. Why do you care so much about our treatment procedure and sexual well being or not??
Probably because what you’ve posted has influenced people to put their health and finances at risk in the past, with little to show for it other than painful treatments, dangerous antibiotic use, and limited successes as reported thus far.
And what is this comment about “our” treatment? This entire forum is for men suffering from PFS, you come here and propose this thread as a treatment for all, and now state it’s only about those who underwent the treatment?
What did you offer till now to fellow sufferers??
some of us took the risk and spend the cash tolerated the pain to find a solution so that the rest get an easier way out.
Its not easy. The easy part is to hide behind a monitor and judge everyone.The most disgusting stance i have seen in my life. Sit and judge. Instead of doing something. Bring something positive to this forum for a change
What did the rest of us do? Bring something positive to the forum?
Hmm, how about us generating REAL media and medical awareness, undertaking of research initiatives with the scientific community, and litigation against the drug company in more than one country?
Versus you, who simply comes on here to make incredible and unfounded claims, conniving more than one man to fly to Greece and have what may not even be prostatitis “diagnosed” and “treated”, having these men spend thousands of dollars and putting health at risk via use of black box warning antibiotics… and now suggest prostatectomy as a treatment?
There’s a big difference my friend.
You think all this is hocus pocus??,
Initially it seemed somewhat plausible as an interesting avenue to explore for treatment of prostatitis symptoms, unfortunately through your own actions (deleting of posts, emotional based selling, illogical suggestions (ie prostatectomy)), you’re destroying your own credibility and along with it, the entire believability of this thread or concept of “prostatitis” as a contributing factor in PFS (which, for the record, I personally do not endorse as a root cause for the syndrome. A side effect of prostatic atrophy which contributes to prostate pain and inflamation perhaps, but not as the root source of all our androgen deprivation issues, as has been debated previously in this thread).
Wrong its a medical treatment. Prostatic massages + antibiotics, what’s so funny about it so that it makes you take the piss out of it?
Yea, we know that, nobody said it was funny or easy – but you make it seem like it is, even stating in past posts that taking the antibiotics (black label) are not so bad etc. This is not some simple therapy, its an intense procedure over weeks or months with its own potential set of side effects.
Go to some other forum and play your dirty jealous part there
Probably you are unwanted everywhere you go because of your hatred thoughts
No, how about YOU take a break from this site to clear your head before you think about posting completely useless garbage here, and then retract your statements like it was all a joke over and over again? The fucking NERVE you have to come here and tell others to get off this forum after all the shit you’ve spewed… what arrogance, you are truly unbelievable.
Nobody has time or interest in being emotionally toyed with, especially when it can translate into real-world loss of income, health, time off work and other impacts. Stop fucking around with people here by posting this type of shit (“why not get a prostatectomy? Don’t believe all those scientific articles that say what happens!”) and we’ll all be better off.
Otherwise, Administrators will be forced to take action.
Am I the only one who thinks solonjk might be trolling? He can’t be for real, it’s just…impossible
Joetz, unfortunately, it’s gotten to the point for not only me, but others as well. There is only so much crying wolf, backtracking, deletion of post history, and insane suggestions one can take before calling BS on all of it.