Am I tripping or did a heap of recent posts in this thread just get deleted?
I finished 35 treatments a week or so ago. I guess Iâll give an update. The doctor said that my prostate looks âvery goodâ after looking at my exit Transrectal Ultrasound. I have hardly any red dots on my prostate.
Pre-treatment: urine hesitancy, numb penis, no morning erections, no libido, watery and weak ejaculate, weak orgasm
Post-treatment: The urinary issue is gone. The morning erections came back around treatment 25 and remain. I still have no libido and a numb penis. My ejaculate is still watery and the orgasm is about the same. Unfortunately, since I have had this problem for about 7 years, my penis tissue has atrophied. I am suffering from pretty severe veno-occlusive dysfunction (ie my penis doesnât trap blood anymore). I am doing penile injection therapy, but I donât think it will be much help.
I recommend to everyone who has erection issues (numb penis, âpenis shrinkageâ, no morning erections, etc) to go on a cialis/viagra regime (maybe 2 10mg pills per week, or a smaller daily dose) and use a penis pump. I never did this. While you are trying to get your libido back, you need to take care of your penis. There are studies that claim that a lack of androgens will cause fibrosis in your penis. Slow this process down at all costs.
Cost aside (which is significant for an American) I think this digital treatment is helpful, but I canât say if itâs the cure-all that solonjk says it is. This has been worth it to me just to get the morning erections back, because this may help slow down the atrophy of the penile tissue. Supposedly, the recovery process can take months, so I will wait. I am concerned about regressing and wasting all this money, but that is taking a backseat to my penis. For those thinking of going to Kos, I recommend staying for 35 treatments if you can. If you try to do this in less than a month, then you may find yourself having to come back in a month. A few of us have stayed longer than expected because of unforseen complications.
hi, its been 3 weeks after the treatment, crazy tendon pains and knee pains but have reduced as time has passed, meaning no excercise using the knee and tendons for a few months, fatigue has gone less after a few weeks of rest, candida im controlling using nystatin, low carbs and low sugar diet and low chilies too. Morning erections more often better erections overall, lumpy sperm has gone for now, shrinkage has reduced, therefore positive results but i have up and downs like most, will update in 2 weeks, i will do a spermculture and send results to dr g den update him on my quality of erections, then he will tell me if rehab on penis i required and if i need post therapy, but im not gona take quinolones ever again this is a recovery on its own, but most likely will need penis rehab as more den 6 months of ed can cause fibrosis, bye ps the treatment was one of the most difficult things ive done in my life now i got painfull tendons n joints lol
You are the first person Iâve seen complain about tendon pains. I was recently prescribed cipro and decided not to use it after I read the adverse effects sheet. I did a internet search and found stories of people who had bad side effects from it. Next time I get to the urologist Iâm gonna have him write a script for something else. Good luck to you.
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Has anybody tried self prostate massages with a proper massager? any benefits?
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Probably one of the last before my prostatic surgery.
Yes i m going for that since i have seen what a treated prostate can do.
Well, good thing is that erection is 80-85% steadily strong and good. My dick is like something very strong like iron grows in it. Very strange feeling.
Bad thing, testicles are so small and are still continuing to atrophy, its evident i havenât got ridden of the prostatic inflammation, especially the one in seminal vesicles completely.
I have now decided to go for the prostatectomy.
Hopefully this will stabilize everything and will be the end of all this mess and save me some forecoming prostatic cancer too
Wonât a prostatectomy kill your sex drive and erections?
Forgive me if i am missing something here but i thought the whole point of being treated by Georgiadis was to cure your prostatitis so that you could regain your sexual functioning and the rest of it. You have no issues with high PSA or even the usual prostatitis symptoms, i.e. pains, fever etc right? what exactly will you gain from removing your prostate? i am confused.
also why would you go get one when AWORS results are about a month away?
dude, following your reasoning, if you have problems with your testicles, why donât you cut 'em off too?
I donât know how much you care about what I or the others could say, but I only tell you: donât go for the prostatectomy, it will make things worse.
i would discourage prostatectomy
is advisable only if there is a life threatening condition
for reversing fina sides is imao wrong approach
Solonjk, not sure why you think removing your prostate is a good idea, but IMO it is quite simply insanity. Who suggested you get a Prostatectomy â Dr. G or yourself?
If anything, it will significantly WORSEN your situation, and I think you know that, so Iâm not sure if youâre actually serious or just posting about the thought of it. However, it is so illogical I cannot even comprehend why you would even consider it, even if Dr. G suggested it (which I doubt). BTW â who would undertake the surgery if this is the case? What urologist would authorize a man without prostate cancer to have his prostate removed?
Below is what you can expect if you went through with this procedure. If you think the damage Finasteride did to your prostate was bad, get ready for what happens when you no longer HAVE a prostate. Penile atrophy/fibrosis and impotence, some of the very things you are trying to correct (or have had success in improving), will likely come back with a vengeance. Not to mention the prostateâs role in androgen/DHT metabolism and production will be removed, and you will likely be DHT deficient once again considering the following:
Role of the Prostate in Androgen Metabolism
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Good luck either way.
EFFECTS OF PROSTATECTOMY ON PENILE FUNCTION & TISSUES
PDF â Changes in Penile Morphometrics in men with ED after Nerve-Sparing Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy.pdf
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PDF â Penile fibrotic changes after radical retropubic prostatectomy
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Erectile Dysfunction Following Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy: Epidemiology, Pathophysiology and Pharmacological Management
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Reduced efficacy of nitrergic neurotransmission exacerbates erectile dysfunction after penile nerve injury despite axonal regeneration
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Penile weight and cell subtype specific changes in a post-radical prostatectomy model of erectile dysfunction.
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Please solonjk take some time and think about the magnitude of what you are considering. There is no going back from this.
Madness
For someone who should understand the whole complications from finasteride better than most on this forum, i find this outrageously counter intuitive and almost offensive to the spirit of this very thread.
Our symptoms mirror many guys with prostatectomy. Youâve already shown a disposition towards such sides. A prostatectomy would be a risk on an inconceivable level. Not to mention it would destory your male core.
As Mew says, no doctor would sanction this, anyway.
To be honest, i think itâs ludicrous that Solonjk convinced so many men to go over to Greece and receive treatment from Dr Georgiadis and now he has came back to announce that he wants his prostate removed entirely. Letâs not mention the fact that he deleted all of his post on this forum.
surely his last post sounds very weird to us, but guys, let him explain his reasons and donât judge him in any way
I hope we can soon put this thread and treatment theory to rest. SolonJK claims to be an expert on all things urological based on his experiences but some how doesnât realize that impotence is a common consequence of prostatectomies? 
I am truly furious with Dr. Georgiadis and feel sympathy for the guys who visited him without substantive results.
No, it sounds completely insane.
But hey, if he wants to have his prostate ripped out and can find some dubious doctor that doesnât care about their career or liability, then heâs free to go right ahead. Heâll accomplish what Finasteride could only try to do â destroy the prostate.
My concern is the potential for him to come here and, as he did with the prostatitis thread, emotionally spam this forum that âprostatectomyâ is a now potential treatment or cure, when it is documented to cause many of the side effects we are trying to recover from.
Weâve already had enough of the emotional based selling with regards to âprostatitis is the problem, go see Dr. G in Greece if you want treatmentâ, despite much evidence to the contrary and suspect diagnoses of healthy TRUS scans, and followup reports by men who have spent thousands of dollars following solonjkâs advice, who have yet to find significant (or in some cases ANY) improvements.
Personally, my patience is wearing thin for people who try to convince others to spend a shit ton of money and put their health at risk (as weâve seen with another user who, at the suggestion of this thread, flew to Greece and underwent Dr. Gâs Quinolone-based antibiotic treatments for what may or may not even have been prostatitis, and who is now suffering severe tendon and muscle problems as a result â black box warnings apply to these classes of antibiotics), from members who then delete all previous posts to cover up the fact they made such suggestions, and now come back talking about even more radical and detrimental therapies (removal of prostate) as a potential treatment.
Completely ridiculous, and DANGEROUS to anyone who doesnât know better.
Yes, letâs see what Solonjk has to say because there is no way anyone in their right mind, if they had any sense or understanding of what a prostatectomy entails, would choose to undergo such an operation â and thatâs IF they could even find a surgeon willing to undertake the procedure, considering we do not have prostate cancer.
Regardless, I am quickly losing patience that this user should be given a soapbox from which to promote such dangerous advice.
Sorry prop, but he is considering an operation that will make him go from having some trouble with sexual dysfunction to having no chance of having any sexual function whatsoever. I always suspected that maybe he wasnât playing with a full deck, urging everyone to go to greece, and then deleting all his posts, and now he wants surgery that will completely sexually ruin him for the rest of his life.
Solon, why would you do this if you have 80-85% erection quality âlike ironâ?
If anything, youâve emphasized the role of the prostate in our problems, and the value of a healthy one.
Now you want to remove yours? Senseless.
and what is next? cut your penis and balls?
The whole thread was a trash right from the beginning. Now this buble is bursting. I feel sad for the guys who took loan and went to Kos for crappy treatments based on crappy theory.