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Dr G recommends that i continue taking antibiotics for at least one week after treatment, however I may go another cycle and extend that for one month post therapy. FYI: My therapy has just ended. I had 24 āprostate areaā massages in total.
The next stage is to let my prostrate heal for the next month or so.
I then have to send update emails to Dr G on what my symptoms are, ie. what my morning erections are like, can i have sex without cialis, urine flow, any reduction in inflammation, etc.
I may have to go back for more therapies, a doppler test and further TRUS tests. But i will have to wait and see.
Can i apologise for the delay in updating this thread but it is still too early for me to report on how effective the treatment has been. If anybody is heading for treatment with Dr G in the near future please feel free to PM me if you have any questions about the treatment.
Thanks for the update, however why should people need to PM you to receive such info? Why not share such info for the benefit of all on this forum?
Concealing treatment information does not help the larger cause in this regard.
Thanks so much for coming back and updating us. I understand that you dont want to give detailed updates as of now about your progress, but can you tell us something about other patients that you met in Dr. office? How has their experience been after the treatment? did they come for repeat treatments? were there any PFS patients? Were there any patients who were not helped by other urologists but improved after this docs treatment?
[b] Yes, I spoke with a couple of greek guys who, like many people on this forum including myself, have been told that their problem is pyschological by other doctors. Then they went to Dr G and discovered that they have chronic prostatitis, were treated with antibiotics, anti inflammatories and prostrate massages and saw big improvements.
For us PFS guys, I think its a case of wait and see when or if some PFS guys get cured by Dr G. I am convinced that the prostrate therapy can help by reducing inflammation, improving circulation, releasing compressed nerves etc, but whether or not it can cure āPFS syndromeā completely is something that i am unsure about.
There are a few other guys heading out there soon and I wish them all the very best.
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[b] Mew, i can assure you that I am not attempting to conceal information, just trying to help other members if they have any queries about heading to Greece for a few weeks. I think solonjk has done a good job of describing the therapies in his first post:
*strong pressure massages to break done prostatic calcifications and free up intracellular pathogens from their created biofilms
*double or triple antibiotic therapy for several weeks (that changes if need) whilst the massages are taking place
*diet/refrain from all sorts of crap that increase the inflammatory markers
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Ahh, yes it was an issue of semantics. Questions about heading to Greece is different than questions about treatment. 
Unfortunately as you can see for yourself, Solonjk has removed most of his post history off this site, including much throughout this thread until the very end.
Regardless thanks for sharing the info.
Hi Noniman,
Thanks for your update.
Does Dr. G prescribe the dosage of antibiotics based on how the prostate feels?
What type of foods increase inflammatory markers?
Thanks!
Called my Urologistsā office today and asked his secretary if she could forward my request for a TRUS to the Uro. She called back saying he said, āin no way, shape or form could that help your problemā¦ Itās for screening for cancer.ā
Being Canadian, itās not like I can just go to another Uro. Have had mild right side groin pain for years, but, thought it was from work.
Whatās the best treatment plan for those unable to go to Greece? I guess strictly antibiotics but which one(s) and how long?
Iām still waiting for the venceromosā diagnosis anxiously. Iāll get to know today.
Yeah, the doctor says the same. Most of the prostrate cancer patients are found with a long-term, chronic prostrate infection & inflammation (prostatitis). Hence the 6 times more chance to get a prostrate cancer after suffering from prostatitis for 10 to 20 years.
Yes, itās not a blind prostrate massaging - he uses his uh first finger? only and basically for those 20-30 days he treats you he supervises how the antibiotics affect the inflammation -evere day-. Robotic arm can only replace a real hand 70% due to fine motorism/capabitilities of a real hand and because finger has pressure senses. With the finger pressure and checking all the tissue every day, he can determine if the antibiotics are working or if he has to change the regime, which areas he need to work on more than the others, what is the quality of tissue/is there inflammation and so forth. Thereās propably even more into this what with his 20 years of experience and lot of silent knowledge but this is what i know so far.
This is why me and solonjk tried to convince the youngbuck or tim or whoever not to do the prostrate massages himself - the massage is definitely out of your comfort zone at the beginning so itās impossible anybody can do it themselves. (likewise the doctor has the experience to not to push the treatment over your limits, otherwise no patients would do the treatment) You can spread the inflammation to new areas or make old inflammation worse. Hell, you can burst and damage something in there.
About the foods - well, i know for sure that alcohol and spices irritates the prostrate. That is not a good term and i will ofc clear that out if it means that it increases inflammation markers or increases the inflammation/infection in the prostrate specifically or whatever. Avoiding sugar is something we follow as well as there are pathogens that live on sugar, i think staph spefically but iām not sure? heh, solonjk does know ofc.
Sounds like your typical finasteride bullshit (the medical community hindering your recovery). That pain does sound like a prostatitis sympton - other guys came here for similiar reasons and iāll update the topic today or tomorrow - but i honestly think at this point that Georgiadis has at LEAST the expertise to pull out a proper prostatitis analysis even if you donāt want to go through his treatment. He is p. good with analyzing the TRUSes, he does during the diagnosis and at the end of your therapyā¦ plus ofc possibly at the post-therapies.
Uh, no donāt take antibiotics, they wonāt work but only for a short time. The reason is the calcifications/hard tissue in prostrate formed by inflammation and the lack of circulation in the prostrate so the antibiotics donāt really work in the prostrate/donāt circulate in the prostrate.
Iāve heard this from a prostatitis patient who went all over the Europe like solonjk: Italyās Borgini tried antibiotic injections directly at the prostrate for some time (heard another guy who did it here, it didnāt work) but at the point when solonjk went to him he had already given up on it. Hell, doctors only do the prostrate antibiotic injections only a few times out of the fear of the patients suing them as too many direct antibiotic injections kills the prostrate. In Texas they are apparently testing out a therapy where they inject the prostrate 80. FRIGGIN. TIMES. thatās insane - itās highly propable that they are injecting every hard tissue and colonies they find in the prostrate instead of breaking the hard tissue.
I honestly have no idea what are the options for americans. I uh estimate that two finasteride americans will be treated by Georgiadis this summer season? Iāve heard of the filippinesā Feliciano and even Georgiadis knows him but according to venceromos, the there wasnāt enough testimonies for the guy/he is fairly unknown and blase said that the testimonies he found said that the guy could improve his patients a whole lot, maybe to 90% but after the treatment the symptons came back slowly in the following months. That would mean that he didnāt manage to clear out all the pathogens from the prostrate and they bloomed again in time.
Hell yeah!!!
gefinauser, do you have tough prostatic stones similar to what solonjk described?
Also, did you get a full hormonal profile prior to treatment?
It would have been good to see if this treatment has any effect 3AdiolG.
[b]Bluejaysfan, sorry that you have been fobbed off by your urologist.
I would try writing another letter to your urologist explaining the reasons why you want to have a close up trans rectal ultrasound scan of your prostrate, i.e. you want to check for inflammation, calcifications, abcess and cancer.
If you are in pain, then they have a duty to do this test. If they donāt and you are still suffering, then the words medical negligence spring to mind.
If Greece is not an option, then I would consider having the test done privately. I would fly over to the USA or UK if you need to.
I have been looking at the this place recently in the UK, as i noticed that they can combine anti biotics and prostrate massages:
lua.co.uk/prostatitis/treatment/
Our forum member āgolfā recently posted some contact info on the following clinic near San Franciso, which may be closer for you:
biotherapy-clinic.com/prostatic_massage.html
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you could show them that finasteride is associate with causing cancer with the paper that has been posted on the front page.
Yeah, thought of thatā¦ but, my psa was .6 (from 6.4 about 5 years ago) and they would probably use that as an indicator that of course I donāt have cancer. So sick of lazy, uninterested doctors.
Wow, I somehow missed this piece of news last month.
Was this posted on the forum or this website at all? Seems to me that any new documented danger posed by Finasteride should be promoted here, as it lends credibility (directly or indirectly) to our claim that fin is poison.
Is the prostate affected when passing stool?
āAgain a stool softener will help with discomfort is caused when passing stools.ā (The UK clinic link)
I never knew this. I have had issues with stool ever since my problems began. Generally when i need to use the toilet for that reason, my genitalia look very strange and worrying symptoms occur which i wonāt go into. Also, ejaculation during has occurred.
Anyone elseās semen smell different?Thats another symptom. The prostate puts a separete fuid into our ejaculate which people with prostatitis have a lack of because of hindered production.
Yes mine smells almost like chlorine I guess you could say and is yellowish most of the timeā¦ Of course I had neither before taking fin, and I even had yellowish semen WHILE taking the drugā¦ I believe Mew has even reported yellowish semen, which he has divulged beforeā¦
is yellowish sperm supposed to indicate a prostate problem ? Iāve always had it
same question for little clear lumps that I can find in my sperm, and that Iāve also always had
I asked my GP about it and he told me not to worry, it was normal