Prostatitis treatment as a novel insight into Finasteride related problems

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#1061

Because you are man

big time liar

and you don’t have any right being here
saw palmetto doesn’t cause anything like what we have
its your prostate that has suffered the same us we

but you don’t want to understand it

you try to convince people to not go for treating their prostate based on the fact that you have done massages and they failed (which you haven’t or you haven’t properly, but you said for two months to cover the extend of the treatment someone is supposed to do to feel better)

Even without antibiotics massages would make you feel better even in some 20-30% of cases clean your infection if it is not very strong, and then you said you used saw palmetto and you developed sides again prostatic-related but that time you didn’t bother going for prostatic massages.

There is a lot of contradiction in your stories. Or lies. True lies.

You have no right to write in here based on your use of saw palmetto and direct people onto treatments or not.
You are also no medic. So you are based on readings.

If saw palmetto was that bad as finasteride then 101% of the male population would have issues because here it is used so extensively and sold in every corner allmost, in herbals, teas, as part of vitamins you name it.

So its either your prostate had and has issues (which you also lied you said you cured your prostate and you don’t suffer from anything now wtf !!!) or hundreds of thousands of men now around me are chemically castrated.
The second is not true

Weird thing, my cousin also took SP and he was for treatment him self. Wtf why is it so common this prostatitis issue, in the end i am going to go mad with all of you in here just denying what you have just for the heck of pleasure or for the heck of denial.

#1062

A few questions

1.You dont like HIM or the necessary pain you had to go through?

2.You dont wish anyone to go to Kos to see HIM or to experience this pain (when you say “go there”)

  1. Was there a falling-out or an argument with Pavlos Georgiadis that has left a sour taste in your mouth?
#1063

its a tough treatment
what is there to like

i don’t like dentists too
that don’t mean that i don’t visit them
i wish though noone had to (including me)

im trying to do my last to convince people to go and get some transrectal ultrasound done

just extended my staying here to play around with a few wankers like they kept playing with my pain and effort

#1064

Solon
I feel sorry for you. you are getting very biased. To say SP is used by million of males with out any sides is illogical statement. The same argument is used by doctors for finasteride. So with your own logic you can see where you are standing.
what about my blood reports, my vision problems, my poor blood production, my osteoporosis? All this are lies?
what about kemangd viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1398&p=7000#p7000. Is he lying too?
you go on any hariloss forum and see countless young men crying after SP use.
Fially there is cut and past of email with Danish health ministry.

Hi S…,

I am sorry to hear about your situation.
We will recommend you to contact your own national food authority/administration and let them known about your situation. You can explain to them that we here in Denmark have made a risk assessment of saw palmetto which has let to that we do not accept saw palmetto in food supplements since saw palmetto can have an effect on the hormone system.
If the food authority/administration in Canada wants to have the risk assessment they can contact The Ministry of Food, Agriculture and Fisheries, Danish Food Administration.

Lastly, I will recommend you to visit your doctor.

Regards,

S. M
Levnedsmiddelkandidat
Fødevarekontrollens Rejsehold, Kosttilskudsgruppen
e-mail: s@fvst.dk

Ministeriet for Fødevarer, Landbrug og Fiskeri

Fødevarestyrelsen

Fødevareregion Øst, Fødevarekontrollens Rejsehold

Fjeldhammervej 15

2610 Rødovre

I sent the above email to Mew as well in 2009. Mew can confirm it.
So I leave the decision who is a big liar.

Lastly you are saying you want to go for good but if I were you I would stay and see how many people get healed.

#1065

what about my blood reports, my vision problems, my poor blood production, my osteoporosis? All this are lies?

these are not finasteride related problems
you are making a mistake
and mew is not a doctor to back your story up and let you post here insanities

you have never healed your prostatitis you just lied about treating it

and there is other issues that bother you too

so no reason to post in this thread

and i am not in that desperate need of seeing others being healed, i saw a dozen or more allready i talked to them in person when i visited drs clinic and i see my self now. Its not like i used to be, there is no comparison. I am a new man in most aspects and didn’t do 100% of the treatment.

I would be really happy if my testicles where better too. But i didn’t listen to someone from this forum that was calling me to go visit urologists

I had to listen to the forum “researchers”

#1066

to solon, i agree with your theory and mews theory i believe they are all connected and one. i believe your theory is the surface that has to be cleared first. the inflamation in prostate and penis fibrosis has to be treated first because its blocking sensitivity and causing numbnes. once we diminish the surface then hormones if not normal already can be balanced. and once balanced we back to normal.

Solon if you can explain as short detailed and to the point as possible what you did to get rid of this inflamation in prostate and penis. and were u completeley numb befor u underwent this treatment?

Thanks

#1067

By the way SpStriken are you Danish?
Why did you refer to the danish health agency?

#1068

From day 28th when my prostate started shrinking in size and dropping in inflammation all came back slowly. Actually by day 30th i was back to 95%. The only thing that kept bothering me is the low testicular size and continuous pains and heat i feel in them.
Apart from that all the rest recovered. Size is a lot better too.

I did another Ultrasound 2 weeks before finishing my treatment and the prostate was down to 21cc from 25cc initially.
By the end it was definately smaller. Now i feel no pains around there, nothing all my sensitivity is recovered and penis has stable temperature and sensitivity.

I know if i go back and do another week or two like doc insisted and play with antibiotics i will be done completely even miraculasly clear my testicles but i have no money any more to do this and feel good as it is. And i don’t really think i can tolerate any more treatments, to tell the truth,
nevertheless i got to the point of understanding the whole of this issue and felt sad i didn’t go 5-6 years ago, because the damage done by the low DHT can become very hard to recover. For weeks you maythink nothing goes better its all in vain, but as tissue slowly rebuilds and dht gets produced everything recovers, your thinking you fatigue your strength your sexuality your hairloss all of it.

Its just a difficult game really, very difficult treatment. I hope people for the best

It is mostly an immuno and less an endocrine condition

nothing else
no resistance syndromes no weird science fiction hormonal problems
but people are still free to believe whatever

#1069

so Solon, you used to not have erections, now you do, right?

that’s my one, final question.

thanks.

#1070

During this year, i had lost erections completely
they deteriorated badly from summer and within 2-3 months it was all gone

In the past years it was fluctuating some times say 50% some times not even 20%
but there where times i didn’t care i looked upon other more significant problems like energy, fatigue, sleep etc etc
now i have sex every day
its quite good, i seem to cum a bit earlier but i feel very good
strange feeling after all this time

#1071

Thank you for clearing that up. Enjoy fucking your brains out!!! lol

#1072

to solon,
its not possible to do the doctors treatments from home? about how much would it be for each appointment? is Greece cheaper compared to America? u said he was in Greece correct?

p.s. it would be great if someone can post Dr. G’s information on doctors thread for people who want to give it a shot in my opinion.

Thanks,

#1073

ah dont know man
from home?? you need someway to drench your prostate
you know like they do when they have an inflammation in their coccyx. Drainage and antibiotics. Its the same logic
How are you gonna reach the prostate on your own??

I don’t know prices in US
In greece it varies from 1500-3000 euros

i ve traced the italian doc dr Guercini who used to do injections and had a good profile till lately when he dumped the injections
and a chinese Guy who claims to be also very competent

but if i haven’t been treated i don’t know

in US if you search around you might find people who do this treatment

but i haven’t found any in the internet

and the Tucson/manila clinic is not doing a correct method, as far as i understood on me you need more than 20-25 treatments to see improvement especially if the inflammation is long lasting

#1074

to solon,
so its not possible to follow the same steps you took, because that doctor doesnt do that practice anymore? if you were looking to continue your treatment where would u go? im looking for the best guy you had is it in Greece or Italy or America?

Thanks,

#1075

Its in Greece
You need someone to know how to perform the drenching massages, not very fun…
And find the cause of your problems via treating with antibiotics and anti-inflammatories
And if he cleans the infections completely and hormones don’t creep up satisfactorily, then add up T

#1076

thanks man,

p.s. would be great if someone can post this doctors from greece’s info in the doctors thread so people can give him a shot.

#1077

For now, see here.

#1078

[b]June 2011 - FDA ALERT, LABEL CHANGES: FINASTERIDE MAY INCREASE RISK OF HIGH-GRADE PROSTATE CANCER

FDA: 5-alpha reductase inhibitors (5-ARIs) may increase the risk of a more serious form of prostate cancer

“[6-9-2011] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is informing healthcare professionals that the Warnings and Precautions section of the labels for the 5-alpha reductase inhibitor (5-ARI) class of drugs has been revised to include new safety information about the increased risk of being diagnosed with a more serious form of prostate cancer (high-grade prostate cancer). This risk appears to be low, but healthcare professionals should be aware of this safety information, and weigh the known benefits against the potential risks when deciding to start or continue treatment with 5-ARIs in men.”[/b]

i just saw this today… nice
we are getting more and more concentrated on the target

#1079

Excellent sir!

Solonjk, I have a question regarding the seminal vessels. How does the good doc address those with the massages, does he massage them as well or does he leave them alone and let the antibiotics handle those? Googled imaged them and they appear to me an appendage of the prostate.

Thank you good sir for all you have done… Have you thought of rewriting your first post on this thread so that those who view it will actually know what were talking about here?

#1080

Inflammation is associated with cancer.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1994795/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12490959

“According to the most recent clinical oncology data, one out of seven newly diagnosed malignancies worldwide result from infection and chronic inflammation in conjunction with cancer”
springer.com/biomed/cancer/book/978-1-934115-14-5