i had the same concern, but after abstaining a bit more i felt relief in pelvic area.
i try to relax the pelvic floor even with stretching. i feel moderate benefits.
benefits r more sensitivity and better “squirt power”
MarkTwain: Yes! You are def kn to this. I notice the same. I always have clenched or kegeled during sex/masturbation. Any time i now conciously relax my pelvic floor during sex my erections are a lot harder and last longer!
As far as the guys talking about abstinence, It really does not seem to personally help me enough to bother with it. I have gone multiple times w out ejaculating for 5 weeks. What helps more is simply pelivicfloor release/opening/relaxation.
I really encourage more of you to try out prazosin/minipress. It. Asically forces your pelvic floor to relax…
No i have simply not had the time or ambition.
hey guys we definitely have a pelvic floor dysfunction. The thing is since we’ve had it for song long the trigger points have probably been extending to other areas of our bodies. Check for you psoas and your inner thighs. From the knees to the chest all those muscles interact with each other. Any trigger point in there can have an effect somewhere else. Head over to hardflaccid.org and you will see guys talking about pelvic floor trigger points. I believe hard flaccid is the when its at its worst.
If you bend over and bend your knees a little do you notice your penis getting smaller or really small. It’s definitely a muscle dysfunction. The nerve passage ways are in a wrong cycle right now that its in more of a “take cover” mode instead of just relaxing. It’s sending the wrong signal to the brain and we have to interrupt that cycle. Check your psoas muscles and your inner things along and you’ll probably notice there is some tension/pain there.
I do believe that the GHB could be a cure, however there’s guys who gotten the same problems without taking anything from simply riding their bike to stretching. However theres one thing I want to point out and its about the libido. The men on hardflaccid.org say that when they had the hardflaccid their libido was horrible, but as they became better they’re libido came back. So perhaps the dysfunction is blocking passage ways or something.
Did your doctor prescribe Prazosin? If not any recommendations on where to get it?
I am going to try an alpha blocker. Will let you know if any improvements. I am convinced now that the pelvic floor pain is the cause of our problems.
When its less and i feel less clogged up i feel better. When i wear tighter trousers i feel more generally unwell. When i have a full bladder or full bowel it is worse. My pelvic area on rectal examination is painful. It is partially relieved by antibiotics. Chronic pelvic pain syndrome is known to cause erectile dysfunction, low libido and fatigue. I have a normal hormonal profile including 3 adiol-g and testosterone boosting supplements increase my androgenic functions albeit by also increasing my pain.
Prazosin/Minipress or the other one that starts with a D that I cannot think of at the moment. Try those do not try any others.
As far as where to get them…I am pretty sure that I just ordered off a random online pharmacy…cant remember where.
I’m booked to see a pelvic pain specialist. Full examination via the back passage looking for trigger points. She’s treated a few men and thinks she can help, fingers crossed.
I have started Prazosin 4mg at night. I worked up to that dose. Overall not noticed much improvement. It drops my BP as expected so i feel quite lethargic and decreases my libido. Hasn’t really improved my erectile function - if anything has worsened it. The pain i experience is also not relieved by it. Have been on it for 4 nights now.
It has relaxed my perineum and things feel less “tense” downstairs but the pain persists and persists in stopping erections. Also taking it at night has improved my quality of sleep i think. Sleep more restful as less tension i think. However, doesn’t quite hit the spot. I wonder if a more prostate selective one would be more beneficial as prostate targeted antibiotics help me.
Plan is to stop it for a few days as need to have some function. May give it another go next week.
When i think back to when ALL my prostate issues developed it was roughly when my stools got softer and they continue to be soft… Did anybody else notice this? my thought is that soft stools do not properly “massage” the prostate or stretch the pelvic floor when defecating. Just a thought and would be interested to hear feedback.
I took a course of Cipro and it didnt even touch my issues.
I only have pain in the urethra sometimes. I don’t get any pain while touching my perineum right now. I’ll touch it again, when I actually have pain in the urethra also.
Do you think I could be having this CPPS too? My symptoms only indicate prostatitis. The problem is there’s no bacteria found.
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Something that still supports the use of antibiotics. They used very broad methods to name the specific microbes and found out that patients with abacterial prostatitis still have a lot more bacteria in their prostates. The number of patients could have been higher, but it’s not that bad…
I think I have not yet lost my hope in antibiotics.
Please read what i posted there viewtopic.php?p=52120#p52120
I have many many studies to link to but am just too lazy for the moment. I WILL post them soonish.
I got my prostatic fluid tested for mycoplasma and corynebacteria and nothing was found (which still doesnt mean there arent any pathogens). Do NOT get obsessed with antibiotics without good reason.
Here is a link aptly named “a cautionary tale” chronicprostatitis.com/cautionary_tale.html
If you want to use abx do so cautiously. Do not use sledgehammers like FQ without any good reason, and stop at the slightest sign of adverse reaction if it happen.
They actually found Ureaplasma parvum in my urethra 2,5 years ago and that’s why they think I still might have it, although, the tests are negative now.
Finally saw a pelvic pain therapist as I’m in a lot of pain down there. She was excellent. In a one hour session she found specific points up the back passage, on my abdomen and thighs that when manipulated were extremely painful.
She had read up on Finasteride before my visit and was interested in my symptoms. In a rush now but will try and post later - today my completely shrunken left nut is a little larger and firmer - only slightly. There’s definitely a link. Feels like everything needs kind of unblocking down there.
that’s very interesting. does your doctor think the spots on your back would attribute towards your pelvic problems?
Back passage not back ie arse/ass - answer is yes, definitely.
After starting this thread…a long time ago…I have pretty much come to the conclusion that I (we) definitely do have pelvic floor issues. However this is not the CAUSE of PFS, but just a symptom. It is however causing many of the shrinkage, numbness, veins, (penile/urinary) symptoms that we have.
So the focus should not just be on treating the pelvic floor and prostate, but finding what the CAUSE is of PFS (molecular, infection, etc).
Pretty much sums up what I think too. Maybe the pelvic floor is right with AR, like penile tissue, causing us problems. Good work on bring the pelvic floor problems to the attention of this forum, moonman.
Finasteride exposed us to more bacteria I think. Made it get stuck and proliferate there. Such drug cannot evoke autoimmunity. It has to be bacteria that’s not just so easy to detect. We need science, not clinics.