I mean I literally feel dead! HA. From the top of my head down my whole body has no feeling! Feels like my brain has been disconnected! Also my breathing is slowed and my heartrate has dropped. Literally feel like a half alive corpse. (But I have some nice hair! 
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Must fight on! At least I donāt think Iām in for any surprises anymore. Just keep at my routine, enjoy workouts, as meetings, food, tv, family, work. Keep a good appearance for family. Try to relax and enjoy myself for a while. Iām so strung out. I am ready for a phase of peace and meditation. Havenāt tried meditating and reading in awhile. Maybe I will start walking/running after work. Many possibilities to occupy my time. Glad the brainfog has cleared.
since you re so bad and you live in america ( waay easier to get a hold to hormones) why dont you just give his protocol a try? seriously if you feel soo bad like you are saying maybe its worth a try, and now with Ihatepropecia702 back online and sharing his experiences with a similar protocol you could gather some information and start it yourself.
Dude the coffee obviously attributed to your brain fog that day in some way. I know when Iāve had coffee it has given me brain fog. So what to I do? Stop drinking coffeeā¦ Little things to avoid that we learn along the way always help in the long run.
As Brazilian dude said, you may really want to give an AI a try man. Going by your pics and descriptions of your problems, it seems your body is being completely overcome by estrogen. Read Dmalās story in member section (posted yesterday), he was completely fucked as well for years and reversed it all with letrozole. I honestly donāt see why, with how much youāve seemingly struggled through the past 2 years, havenāt given something like that a try. I mean if I had planned on killing myself, Iād load up on a fuckload of hormones/AIs/natural methods/etc on my way out to see if it works. I donāt understand your thought process.
Considering death, at least for me, means youāve exhausted literally every option to no avail. All youāve tried is Remeron iirc.
If Iām missing something I apologize.
One thing I agree with is something user, English, mentioned. You canāt overvome this condition with fight or flight, aka black and white thinking. Not possible. Unstable and too much stress on the body. You have one post above wanting to kill yourself and a post down in the same day youāre optimistic. Have to stop the pendulum swing.
Well I hate to tell you this, I HAVE spent THOUSANDS already on medications, doctors visits, testing, natural supplements, herbs, workouts, TRT, hospitalization, the list goes on! I came to the point where I simply could not play doctor on myself anymore! I was going insane measuring different effects of different combinations of shit. It was madness. And Iām still ruined. Besides your liver cannot support a whole life of being on medication. Iām 25 yrs old.
Can you go over in detail what you tried?
Tried:
TRT
ZOLOFT
REMERON
TRAZODONE
CELEXA
VIIBRYD
WELLBUTRIN
LEXAPRO
PRISTIQUE
KLONOPIN
LUVOX
AMBIEN
LUNESTA
RESTORIL
DOXEPIN
TRIBULUS
TBOOSTERS
MACA
TONGKAT
JUICING
VITAMINS
VALERIAN ROOT
ZMA
RHODIOLA
FISH OIL
SEROQUEL
ABILIFY
ESTROGEN BLOCKERS
THE LIST GOES ON!!!
HEAVY WORKOUTS
EXPENSIVE BLOOD TESTS OVER 5 TIMES
SPECIALISTS
MEDITATION
RUNNING
PRAYING
ā¦NO IMPROVEMENTSā¦NO SOLUTIONS.
I am talking about Justquitās specific protocol. Not antidepressants , we know they will most likely hurt you even more.
Ever look into hgh?
Ok, I partially misspoke.
I believe you should give JQDās protocol a try though. High doses of AIās coupled with Tprop or Tsusp.
Also I stick by what I said about somehow controlling your mental state. I know itās hard, probably the hardest thing to do, but you have to figure out a way to keep yourself consistently calm and unstressed.
I believe everyone around me will be in for a surprise when my body has had enough of working 60+ hrs a week and having to take Mirtazipine for 2 yrs now. Itās heavily metabolized by the liver. I fear a big life change is coming soon. I canāt focus on that hopefully I will be able to perform my job without these meds. Or will have to seek out a 40 hr work week.
Yes I want to try JustQuitDut protocol, maybe minus the trt. TRT gave me chest pains and headaches and brain fog.
I want to try HGH as well. I need to take action soon. I hate rolling the dice with hormones. My body is exhausted from chemical experimentation.
experiment with hgh peptides first. Cheaper and legal for research purposes
Will try these hormones. Once that is tried if no improvement, Iām afraid itās over. 2.5 years stagnant. Natural body state is weakness, fatigue, soft muscles, flat mood, feel dead already. Sad but true no other options to escape this. Canāt believe this is the reality. No way out. But at least I accept it now just move on and do the thing.
It is over for me. I donāt see how people will carry on here if they truly have what I have. I cannot see how itās worth living. Nothing is worth this pain.
Man, why dont you try the protocol? before giving up, at least you will try something that might actually help you to feel better. Its a very exciting time for us man.
I will try it. Then no more experiments. No more disappointments
3412 members here, countless others who havenāt made it to this site. Massacre.
You must be the most annoying poster on this forum. Get a fucking grip. Nobody wants to hear your whining.
If its so horrible that you want to off yourself have you tried:
- To participate in studies 2) Donate or work for the foundation if possible 3) convince forum members to participate in studies 4) Reduce your weight (you are a fat slob) 5) stop smoking 6) Accept your situation (Nobody feels excellent but many have disciplined themselves and stopped the whinning and mood swings you actively seek).