Why don’t you just stick to lightattheend’s protocol instead of just playing around? If it worked for lightattheend, it should work for you too.
I believe he did 5-10 mg transdermal, 2 weeks on, 4 days off for 5 months.
I did one week on, taking a few days off. We shall see.
Thats my point though, if two weeks on, 4 days off worked for light at the end, why don’t you just do the same?
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Actually what you stated in the Don Lemon interview was that you took it off and on from May to October 2011. Not May 2005 to October 2011. You also stated in that interview that you first noticed problems in October. If I remember correctly, your profile also used to reflect those dates but now states otherwise. Why has your story changed all of a sudden?
I purchased some progesterone and will be giving it a shot, but as happy for this fellow and jealous as I am, it seems typical of most recovery stories (i.e. person recovers naturally, attributes it to whatever they were doing at the time) so I’m not expecting much.
As I stated, I didn’t attribute my problems to Propecia until October 2011 due to Merck’s inadequate and incongruent warning label. I’m given limited time to explain on live television.
Cap, thats what I’m afraid. Many people have tried to replicate light at the ends protocol but so far no other recovery has been reported. We all suffer from the same disease, so if in fact light at the end recovered because of progesterone, others should too. Otherwise, he may have just gotten lucky and recovered naturally. Plus, he only had it for six months when he took progesterone, and then at about one year he was recovered. It very well could have been natural.
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i’m sorry but this is ridiculous. you personally responded to one of my posts stating that we’ve been suffering the same amount of time (my side effects started in october 2011). every post you have made, every interview you have given, even your profile (until you recently changed it) goes against this. i’d be interested to know what the motivation for this is? trying to squeeze more out of a lawsuit or something?
abcnews.go.com/Health/baldness-d … d=16758123
why are you quoted in this article as stating that you planned to take propecia for no more than a year and (once again) that side effects didn’t happen until you stopped taking the drug in october?
i thought we were fighting AGAINST liars and thieves?
Please look up the definition of attribute. That’ll clear up your confusion.
Because I didn’t plan on taking Propecia for no more than a year.
I never said that. I said they got worse after I stopped taking the drug.
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thanks but i am very familiar with the definition of attribute. and you are bold face lying. everyone who has followed your story knows this. at no point prior did you ever claim to have used finasteride prior to may 2011.
and again - you said nothing about your quote of “i didn’t plan on using it for more than a year.”
i don’t know why you are doing this but you are simply lying and its upsetting to me.
we are all in the same hell here, there is really no need for any of this …
i have cited my sources, presented my facts, and do not mean to insult you but i am curious as to why you are lying. if you want to discuss this via PM and keep the posts off this thread then GREAT. but we all know your story just recently changed. not by a small margin. by an over 6 year margin. and while i appreciate the work you’ve done to raise awareness… it is a disservice to anyone here to be dishonest. and i can pull up more sources to cite your dishonesty if you’d like.
There’s not one thing I’ve lied about.
Yes I did. It’s in my Handle.
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I didn’t plan to take Propecia for more than a year. Hope that clears up your confusion.
Yet you can’t name one thing I’ve lied about.
ihatefin, y do you care so much if he’s being inconsistent about how much or how long he took it for exactly? How will that help any of us? You’ve completely derailed this thread from being a possibly constructive one to a completely meaningless one where you’ve got your panties up in a bunch because SA is not consistent. Piss off.
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apologies to anybody who feels i have ‘derailed’ this thread. i would be happy to move this over to PM because I am trying to gain an understanding of why Second Amendments story changed all of a sudden.
Second Amendment: Your handle changed very recently. I have pointed this out. I am curious as to why you previously stated that your fin use started in May 2011 and ended in October 2011 and now you claim to have suffered side effects for six years longer.
Most importantly: The reason I am so concerned about this is because Second Amendment is a front runner in this whole mess. He is someone who has spoken to the media and generated a lot of awareness about this. If and when this does go to trial - his story is certainly one that will be brought up. The first thing that will happen in litigation is they will try to bring out inconsistencies in any one of our stories.
Telling me to piss off or questioning my understanding of the word attribute is counter-productive. again i’d be happy to move this over to PM if second amendment would like to take this discussion offline.
There’s a differnce between changing stories and adding information to a story. My last cycle was between May and October, 2011. This conversation is over.
Pretty much. I spend most of my time on here reading recovery stories to try to keep up hope and honestly it really seems like you either naturally recover or you don’t. For the people who recovered, it’s possible what they were doing sped up their recovery by some margin, but I would bet good money that in an alternate universe where they did none of those things they would have recovered around the same time or moderately later on. The exception to this would be if some kind of treatment were developed in the future by the PFS foundation or whatever, but sadly I doubt anything very useful will ever come out of that foundation, and if it does it won’t be for many years, at which point I’ll probably have either killed myself or stopped caring. I sincerely hope I’m wrong.
Well the important thing is that people do recover. That means its not irreversible. We just need to find out how to reverse it.
I too was doubtful of the PFS foundation, but not anymore. If you do some research, you will see that Awor is not being overly optimistic about the PFS foundation. If you look, there is proof online that there are people affiliated with multiple universities in the US and in Europe who are working on this problem. Look at how much progress was made in less than two years. In less than two years the scientists know the root cause of PFS (trust me they do) and they have research teams further investigating the problem to not only help us, but possibly help many other people suffering from similar and not so similar health problems. In less than two years, a human study was conducted that produced significant results for a condition that isn’t even officially recognized. Don’t underestimate Awor when he says this will be scientifically revolutionary and you never know, we may get very lucky. This US study that will start soon will give us more information about possible treatments.
As I said, I hope I’m wrong. I would love for a cure to be found, not just for myself but everyone else, those who have been suffering much longer than I, with much more severe sides. I just have to be realistic. Billions of dollars and decades of research have been thrown at things like cancer and AIDS and they have yet to be cured. Our condition garners much less attention (most doctors don’t believe it’s a condition in the first place) with far fewer resources to throw at it but every bit as tough to figure out. Will the foundation come up with something to manage symptoms or lessen them? Sure, I could see that in a few years. A cure, though, I’m not so sure about, as much as I hope for it with all my heart. Again, I hope I’m wrong, and if I’m wrong I hope it doesn’t take 30 years.
And if they know the root cause (I’m not so sure they do, maybe theories at best), it would be nice if they shared that information so we could at least experiment in the right ballpark instead of trying everything under the sun hoping something sticks.