Progesterone treatment?

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#621

Do you still wake up with morning wood everyday and getting spontaneous?
Do you feel you’re getting better after each cycle like bad days, good days but going uoward like the good days slowly outlasting more than the bad days? I’m asking it because Cdnuts said it is to be expected as a recovery.

Do you still can have sex without viagra? Sorry for the many questions.

Which day you started to feel bad and which day you started to waking up with morning wood? I’m asking it because I’d like to know when I’ll feel anything from it. I’m not using yet because I’m waiting from the mail.

#622

Oh yeah?? Well I just read on a website that has scientific studies showing that after you discontinue finasteride that your body returns to normal!! That’s great news, it means we don’t have anything wrong with us!!!

After years of research I’ve come to the conclusion that nobody really knows how the hell anything really works, we just have theories that a lot of people believe in until we find out it’s wrong and then we re-write our information until we find out that wasn’t entirely correct either… That goes with biology, science and just about everything else.

We’ll have to let the real world teach us and use information just as general guidelines…we have one person who said they’re cured from this and about six others saying they’re seeing improvements including yourself, so what has life taught us so far with this protocol?

I don’t know enough about CDNuts protocol, maybe it will work for you (and I really hope it does) - how many people have reported that they’re cured or improving from it? If you do go to CDNUTS protocol please let us know how you’re doing on it. Good luck either way, we’re all in this together.

#623

As a side note, has everyone who’s tried this experienced massive hair loss?i know a few people have. Obviously it’s better to lose hair than to be where I am now but it’s still a bit of a bummer for an 18 year old.

#624

This.

Btw I just wanted to mention that I don’t use progesterone anymore. I felt really good when on it but the off-days were really a pain in the a**, it felt like I developed some kind of addiction/dependency. This is week 4 off progesterone and everything is fine again. I also think that fasting is speeding up my recovery way more than anything else, especially if you have sleep problems. For me the question now is not if I will recover but only when.

#625

Have you gone into detail about your fasting anywhere? If not, could you do so in the fasting thread?

#626

When you say everything is fine again what did you mean? Have you recovered from sexual side effects of propecia? Do you have normal libido now? Maybe you should look your estradiol levels as progesterone makes it works againg try some zinc or dim. Explain better to us how you’re feeling.

#627

Disregard my last post I see you’ve posted in that thread. My mistake.

#628

so im convinced that progesteron is not too much risky and one day i want to try it.
im on 5th months of this nightmare.
so i didnt see any improvoments mental nor sexual, pyhsical…
what do you think how long should i wait to take progesterone cream?

#629

No I just meant that I now feel the same like 4 weeks ago when I was still using progesterone. I’m not recovered yet, but I see some things improving, some things worsening but then improving again. It is a up and down but the downs aren’t really that bad. So far the only thing for sure I know that improved was my sleep (like it did after my first fast). And my skin is a bit oilier + scalp is itching more (yes I consider that as something positive now).

But this thread is about progesterone and I don’t want to spam around too much.

#630

So theoretically the problem could be estrogen dominance or a situation with the receptors, mimicking estrogen dominance.

Lets say it is indeed estrogen dominance, by someone’s hormonal ratios we could determine who would benefit from the treatment or not isnt it?

#631

I just got me bio-identical progesterone cream. My questions are:

  • How much is 5mg?
  • Where do i apply it best?

I read the complete thread and other parts of the forum containing information about progesterone.

#632

Week 16- Whatever bug or virus I had last week that gave me a fever is out of my system and caused a sort of mini reset. I’ve felt great, slept great, had sex great and have been overall great since last Wednesday and I really can’t explain why. I honestly didn’t feel sick with a cold or flu but got a fever that lasted about 24 hours and when I woke up last Wednesday morning I felt great and have continued to since then. Maybe it was a hormonal tipping point, maybe it was allergies, maybe it was bacterial or a virus, I don’t know. In regards to progesterone I’ve been off since Monday and have continued to feel good, but haven’t had the vivid dreams I’ve come accustomed too. Weight continues to be about ~5 lbs heavier even with no change in diet, can’t explain that either, but I’m not complaining because my clothes still fit the same and we have a weight loss competition starting at work on Monday so if it’s water weight or whatever it will help me climb the leader board. Overall feeling great, will be back on progesterone starting tomorrow. I will be doing Prami EOD instead of everyday as I think I’ve increased Dopamine / reduced prolactin enough and have probably maxed out the growth hormone boosting effects of it, plus I’m sick of the taste so I eventually want to be off of it completely.

To comment on some of the previous discussion, I haven’t had any hair loss or shedding, almost the exact opposite, increased facial hair growth and body hair. In fact, I never really put this together before, my legs have been itchy for almost the entire time I’ve been on the progesterone / prami protocol especially after exercise and my wife has commented many times about how hairy my legs have gotten (I’ve said it before, but I’m 28 and routinely get carded for anything that requires an ID).

In regards to application I rotate between neck, balls, chest and inner arms. I’ve heard the tops of your feet are a good application point as well for topical creams (coming from my friend who is on Androgel, he says he puts it on the top of his feet if he wants some “extra juice”, he is not on propecia and never has been, full on PED user). 5 mg is about the size of a pencil eraser head according to the owner of the health food store I’ve bought my last two progesterone pumps from.

Have a good week!

#633

Glad to hear you’re seeing improvements Hypo, I hope they stick. Are you experiencing any negatives while on progesterone or do you still feel pretty good while on it?

#634

The only real negative is the lack of improvement in libido and in the past the way I’ve felt while off of it. Otherwise it’s been pretty smooth sailing. Some of the dreams I have are really intense though and I’ve woken up scared out of my mind a few times.

#635

Hypo maybe your estradiol got too low. I know peop e taking caber or praami and their prolactin and e2 get really low and sometimes when its too low you may not feel progesterone acting too much. You said that you forgot prami some days and.felt better could you describe it better to us?

Also you said you had great sex but also no improvement in libido, this sound strange. When you said overall better please describe more. Maybe you should stop taking prami.

#636

Should you consider raising your dosage to 10 mg a day? Lightattheend said this is how much he was taking on the second page.

#637

Also, as for application sites I pulled this off of Dr. Lee’s site (a Dr who studied progesterone for over thirty years and developed his own brand of progesterone cream)

Q: Where should I put the progesterone cream?

A: Because progesterone is very fat-soluble, it is easily absorbed through the skin. From subcutaneous fat, progesterone is absorbed into capillary blood. Thus absorption is best at all the skin sites where people blush: face, neck, chest, breasts, inner arms and palms of the hands.

#638

What I’m noticing is that the people that didn’t respond well on prog cream is because they’re taking it wrong very low dosage. Some took 2.5 twice per day, 5 per day. Beekay was taking 10 twice per day, gazzaa is getting better taking 10 just before bad. What do you guys think?

#639

I am new with PFS and waiting to meet Dr irwig before i strt a treatment, but i don’t understand those who have guven up on standard treatment why they are not using progesterone?

I found this old thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=360&start=20

The way i see it, the majority of those who tried progesterone have seen some improvement, for some very drastic…

I bought the cream, but again, i want to wait till the dr sees my blood tests (haven’t had the chance to look at them yet).

#640

Maybe i was not clear: as far back as 2007 there were reports of full recoveries with progesterone. However they were met with skepticism, cause these people were not in the forum…