*** Post your Adiol-G (3alpha-androstanediol glucuronide) blood test results

[tim1911]

Free t is more of a factor?

[maracatu]

Free T was measured directly by RIA blood analysis and not calculated with TT and SHBG.

[tim1911]

Im not sure if this test is testing what we think it is testing

[golf]

What do you think its a test for? It is indicated as a test of overall androgenicity.

[Quint]

@sufferer2001recovered2009

I don’t believe this. There’s a new member of this forum on a daily basis, yet the Adiol G results are drying up. Really, sometimes I think there are only a small pool of members here who actually want to get better.

JN

I haven’t seen 3 Adiol G listed on my lab’s ‘we-do’ list of tests, and it’s a pretty well-established lab in Canada (the Gamma corp). So I think it’s more a matter of the test being far less accessible than most others.

I’m going to book and ask my doc as soon as possible about it.

[tim1911]

@golf17331

What do you think its a test for? It is indicated as a test of overall androgenicity.

adiol g is a relatively inactive androgen derived from dht, this means nothing to us.

[boston332]

I had my 3 Adoil G test today. Should get the results back from Quest in 3 days.

[Mew]

adiol g is a relatively inactive androgen derived from dht, this means nothing to us.

Really Tim, and you base that statement on what exactly?

[golf]

Exactly tim - its also a nerosteroid from my understanding if you read the papers by frye in the other studies section. It has a lot to do with desire a well with masculine traits.

[martinM]

@anonnn1

Guys, stick with these doctors please. If there are other doctors who really want to help us, they will come public. Otherwise, you are wasting your precious time…Trust me, I’ve been to 9 doctors so far.

It is just sad that our medical system will not show any initiative in helping us, however in the long term, good always wins…We will prevail…Satan wants us to get down ourselves, the true good Deity will help us through this mess…

Agreed with the statement about doctors, but I don’t the the second one is accurate, that good always wins. It’s all about advertising and profit, we are the suckers who got screwed.

[maracatu]

We need scientists and scientific aproach not “evidence based medicine”

Just take a look
Neurosteroid Effects in the Central Nervous System: The Role of the GABA-A Receptor
amazon.com/Neurosteroid-Effe … 687&sr=8-3

dms2.dartmouth.edu/henderson/

Neurosteroid Effects in the Central Nervous System: The Role of the GABA-A Receptor
amazon.com/Neurosteroid-Effe … 006&sr=8-2

nicolelislab.net/

It would be wonderful if we could catch one of this scientific groups attention.

The more i see the more i raelize that more important than the level of the hormones it´s the metabolism and nervous system signalling problems.

[tim1911]

Perhaps a low adiol g result is best. I dont really want an inactive androgen in my body if i could have an active one

[whalen72]

Tim do you have a link which shows evidence that low Adiol-G is a good thing.If that is the case then I should feel amazing with a rock bottom Adiol-G score of 3.4ng/ml.I think that it’s bad news to have a low reading based on research all over this board and perhaps based on my screwed up libido and erectile function.I hope u are right…

[Y-C]

I don’t understand why there are so many herbs and medications allowing to inhibit 5ar2, but absolutely nothing to boost it. If there were, that could be tremendous help for us. What’s the biological difficulty (since there are so many herbs or meds allowing to boost Testosterone, lower Estrogen…)? Been really curious about that…

[maracatu]

Just updated my bloodtests

[kazman]

maracatu,

Thanks for updating your testing and treatment history. Your adiol-G appeared to reach normal levels when you were taking an astounding 1 mg/day of arimidex (presumably suppressing estradiol conversion of T and forcing it down the 5AR1 and 5AR2 oathways, Did you have any relief of symptoms in this period?

kazman

[boston332]

I told Dr. Shippen I had this test done and he said that its of little consequence but “nice to have” and its only a metabolite of DHT.

He isnt considering androgen resistance at all or, does he feel that 3 Adiol G isnt a good measure of tissue androgen metabolism even though its scientifically proven to be just that? Im pretty confused by this. Probably something obvious Im missing. Going to fax my results to his office and hopefully get to ask him this on our next phone consult. I had this tested by order of Dr. Jacobs and I’ll post my results soon as I get them. This is another reason why I cant wait until all the docs conference. So many differences on how they are approaching PFS.

[tim1911]

boo ya…cheers shippen

[maracatu]

Forgot Crisler, Forgot Shippen, Forgot Jacobs, Forgot Goldstein …
We need state of the art science and scientists not Medical Gurus or evidence based medicine…
Time has passed and none of the famous doctors achive sucess… but charge a lot of dollars…

My case is not one of the worst but i firmly believe that’s somethinmg wrong with our Adiol-G and since now is the best biomarker of the “post finasteride sindrome”.

[boston332]

Dr. Jacobs is looking at 3 Adiol G though. Guy is probably smarter than 99% of scientists so I wouldnt disregard him totally. I havnt got that test back yet and Im thinking its the most important one.

Anyone reading this thread seeing Dr. Mariano? Is he testing for this , what are his thoughts?