PFS recovery is “not impossible. “ In June 2017 I fully recovered (except sleep) - Anonymous1968's post-PFS journal

But even if this is ‘the cure’ no doctor would give such an infusion for pfs.

What about clinics in Mexico? Less regulation? Would anyone be willing to go and try this treatment. I’d be interested. I just don’t have any contacts there.

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Maybe. It seems in general those who managed to take fin without symptoms for prolonged periods of time have it easier after crashing. But it’s a case by case thing. Some people stopped after a few pills, had few side effects and walked away while other took it for a long time and crashed for good and stayed crashed afterward. It’s different for everyone.
But older generations of men had more testosterone than the younger ones in general. I believe men will become more sensitive to these drugs as testosterone decreases from generations to generations.

I have not recovered yet, I just managed to have less symptoms. I had insomnia all of last night and was brain fog all day today, couldn’t do much work. I’m carefully trying to set my insulin / cortisol levels right, so I get cortisol in the daytime and insulin at night to try and sleep better. Doesn’t always work. Insomnia is my last persistent annoying symptom. I have a few others, but they don’t bother me much.

I’m now studying the work of Dr. David Sinclair, a Harvard researcher in longevity. According to him, aging is more due to epigenetic damage than it’s related to shortening telomeres. It is believed pfs is an epigenetic disease so I started looking into his work. As you may know, I made a success story thread with the hope of finding similarities in those who recovered. Look up the thread to find more.

According to Dr. Sinclair, we can stop or reverse epigenetic damage (and live longer) by doing the following things:

  • Eating 1 time a day (intermittent fasting)
  • Water Fasting
  • Taking cold showers
  • Going into hot saunas
  • Doing “out of breath” cardio (gets you some Brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF). It’s very good)

The idea is to put the body in survival mode, so that it heals itself instead of being in production (reproduction) mode. Just like unicellular organisms: they put themselves in survival mode when it’s rough out there, and in reproduction mode when it’s plentiful.

Dr Sinclair also cycles (once every other day) the following supplements and drugs:

  • Resveratrol (400 mg) [Mod edit: Resveratrol has antiandrogenic properties and can be extremely dangerous for those with PFS/PAS/PSSD]
  • NAD Boosters
  • Metformin 500 mg (actually a drug for diabetics that, according to him, tricks the body into survival mode)

Cycling drugs and supplements… fasting… Cardio… Sounds familiar no ? It’s part of many recovery stories.

I’ve read that Butyric acid and BetaHydroxyButyrate (BHB) stops epigenetic damage and can reverse some epigenetic diseases. Ketogenic and carnivore diets produces lots of BHB. So does fasting.
A Russian doctor specializing in epigenetic damage told a friend of mine on this forum to eat only meat and it will help cure epigenetic diseases.

Those are just cues, don’t go head first into those supplements, do some research first, but I think doing the things above (cold showers etc…) can’t be too risky.

I’ve been eating carnivore for a year and a half, fasting and exercising and I know my age markers are getting better by doing those tricks. That’s not what I was looking for, but looking younger, living longer along with getting less pfs symptoms is all good to me.

By the way, Dr. Sinclair uses drugs that can erase some epigenetic markers and leave a clean DNA. I don’t know if it’s experimental, if it has side effects or if it’s available at all, but once those drugs will be out, we’ll have a cure for premature aging, as well as some cancers and I believe pfs and the other diseases people are suffering on this forum.

I’m currently raising as much money as I can, so I can use it as bargaining chip to get to talk to him and see if he can do something. If not, I’ll go on a quest to see if some country, somewhere, has doctors that are willing and able to use some of those epigenetic marker erasing drugs to get me rid of that God damned pfs parasite I’m stuck with.

I promise I will post my findings here and pay a visit to the pfs foundation if I have something.

The best to you all

Ozeph.

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Do you all feel as if the penis tissues have weakened or died? As if there could not be an erection support. This is what I’m most afraid of not being reversible.

Hello thank you very much for taking your time in commenting your case. I would like to ask you one or two questions:

  • Did your sexual preferences over girls change during your PFS days? Did you notice any change on that?
  • Did you notice any brain femenization during PFS?
  • Did you lack “primal” desire over women during PFS and know that has come back as it was before?

Well at the end they were 3 questions instead.

Thank you for you time Sir.

Well I really wish you good luck with that path, that I think we share. Carnivore diet has not recovered me completly but definetly improved my brain, now is more calm more relaxed and I can focus better. Still I have secondary effects of this powerfull satanic drug.

I have bought yesterday this type of BHB for me seems good, as the calcium ones are not usefull to me, because I think Calcium affects me pretty bad:

I completly agree with your revestratol thing, had some very bad experiences with that stuff.

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What steroids were these?

Hi, thanks for your time and tell us about your recovery. Did you have numbness and lack of sensitivity in your penis? Could you send us the link where you have the protocol you used for your recovery?

Interesting read.

This drug is super popular in the longevity/increasing lifespan conversation

I think we must limit this thread to Methyl Steroids.

This stuff is also used for MS patients. We have mighty some things in common with MS.

This sounds like a promising treatment

Promising maybe but he didn’t see improvements for 5 months so no guarantee it was due to the steroids. ive emailed clinics in mexico for treatment costs and local hooker prices, one is bound to be cheaper than the other.

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“Local hooker prices” :joy:

I disagree with the steroid comment, i think it was just a natural recovery. I do however believe you are onto something with long term vs adverse reactions. I’ve noticed that reading all forums. Seems like it might be a different mechanism at play. Not saying you won’t recover.

As always if there’s a possible cure somebody has to downplay it before it’s wider investigated and topics ends in a discussion where people telling it doesn’t work (without personal experience) rather than give it chance. This negative attitude is not working in a possible way curing pfs.

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@smphead forgive me if you’ve already been asked man but would you mind taking the survey? In terms of pursuing a positive outlook re: a cure, that’s easily the most effective thing you can do right now.

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I’m not trying to be negative, after reading the story I just felt this was the most realistic explanation of what went on. But it’s just my opinion, maybe I’m wrong. I’ve just read too many accounts to believe that any substance has cured anyone so far.

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A „wider investigation“ surely should include arguments for and against a proposed treatment. For people who want to make an informed decision it is vital to consider all aspects. The fact that this treatment and the recovery were months apart, is clearly an important aspect to consider.

Blind „optimism“ with regard to potential treatments has wasted a lot of resources and has made many people worse who did not consider critical aspects of treatments. Hence, caution is encouraged.

Nevertheless, everyone has different risk preferences. If you feel this is worth trying, go ahead! I am sure people are looking forward to your experience.

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The methyl steroids he ran are incredibly potent demetyhlators. You won’t find any herb or supplement of comparable strength.

No doctor would help you run methyl steroids either due to the risk of Cushing syndrome.

There’s a good chance it demethylated genes responsible for PFS and over the months of his recovery, his system slowly began to function as it normally should without all these demethylated genes

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Yes, I get the hope here. I’m not saying you’re wrong. The reason why I think its unlikely was because his libido came back a month before the steroids were started so I feel like his brain was already starting to kick back into normality then. I think a lot of us who have been around a long time notice this pattern of people associating what ever supplement they’re taking at the time they’re naturally getting better to being a cure. Then telling everyone else what “cured them” and it ends up not working for anyone. Or even better making someone worse. I do believe demethylation may be the answer, however demethylating the right thing may be a bit of a task. I believe there will be something eventually, I’m very positive I promise.

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