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(It’s a long post, read it only if you don’t mind spending 20 minutes on it)
People use amino acid to balance their neurotransmitters. I’ve read many threads where amino acids were used with success.
People get near 100% recovery and then crashes again. If this happened to you. Please tell us what you did briefly, how you felt good and your crash.
If anyone tried something that made him feel good and never crashed from it, by all mean share with us. This is gold.
It just crashed lately. I was at 95%, took too much aminos and crashed.
I’m on carnivore / ketogenic diet with exercise (Diet and exercise seems to be part of many recovery stories) and I was taking a protein shake in the after noon. I felt better. I started taking more and more of this protein shake, including one before sleep, I increased coconut oil intake and ate less as a result of all those extra calories. My sleep became heavier which I thought was good but I ended up crashing. Yesterday, I ate more meat and veggies, took only 1 protein shake in the morning (It’s pure whey protein isolate. only 1gr carb). My sleep was lighter, I woke up more alert and today I’m feeling better.
People have tried hormone therapy with little results, probiotics with some result (97% of the body’s serotonin is in the guts. Only 3% in the brain. Shocking isn’t it ?. The guts are the second place after the brain with the most neurotransmitters). What seems to have worked the best is the amino acid approach.
I think that all the symptoms comes from unbalanced (or low levels) of neurotransmitters.
And I mean all neurological, physical and sexual symptoms.
Unbalanced neurotransmitters will also unbalance hormones and the guts flora.
As “Master neurotransmitters (serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, and epinephrine) do not cross the blood brain barrier. The only way to increase neurotransmitters is to provide amino acid precursors which cross the blood brain barrier.”,. So we take aminos and feel better.
But people crash after a while.
What it tells me is that it’s the regulating mechanism of the neurotransmitters that’s not functioning properly.
The neurotransmitters balances and uses each other. On a healthy person, there’s an automatic mechanism that keeps those in check.
I think for us, the neurotransmitters are not regulated anymore, which would explain why we have different symptoms from a set of common symptoms to all pfs sufferers. The symptoms we get depends on which neurotransmitters are out of balance, which may be different for each person.
When some neurotransmitters are depleted, we feel bad. We then take the aminos that will fix it and we feel good again, until that (or those) neurotransmitter are too abundant, have interacted with other neurotransmitters and made them depleted. Then we crash.
(By the way, I say neurotransmitters but I also mean the corresponding neurosteroids, enzymes and hormones)
On Joetz thread, (Is Neurotransmitter therapy the key to recovery?) he says he had to do urine tests every week or so and the resluts would indicate which aminos he should take next. But I don’t think we need blood tests, urine samples and all that shit.
The moment a neurotransmitter is too high or too low, we feel it right away. We just need to recognize how each neurotransmitter feels like when it’s too high or too low, than we can take the appropriate amino acids.
a few weeks ago, I was also taking large quantities of a herbal tea called Jiaogulan (Gynostemma pentaphyllum), like 1.5 liters a day. Google it, it’s an amazing plant. I stopped but will start again.
Amongs its many properties, “Gynostemma protects and enhances the function of the centrals nervous system through its antioxidant properties and its ability to regulate nitric oxide production.” (Nitric oxide = erections)
"The saponins in Gynostemma exert a regulatory effect on the central nervous system, the immune system, the reproductive system and the endocrine system. "
This plant helps people live well over 100 yo. But I’m not sure I want to live that long in this condition.
Nonethelses, if it helps regulates the brain and hormones, it may be beneficial.
I will research other supplements that may potentially help regulate neurotransmiters.
I’ve listed earlier a list of aminos I was going to test. Some of us have decided to join me in testing those.
I can predict the effects it will have on us: some of them will make us feel better for a while, others will make us feel worst and some will do nothing.
I think the key is not to try them all, but to find out which one you need, and if you need to slow down or stop and switch to another one when needed. When we were pre-pfs, we were on autopilot. If we try this approach, we’re now driving with a manual transmission. We need to shift the aminos ourselves as our brain does not regulate anymore.
There’s this story of a guy taking only L-Tyrosine 1500mg once a day fro a year and a half. For all that time he didn’t crash and it looks like he could have gone on doing this the rest of his life and be symptom free:
L-Tyrosine, by the way, is an important amino for all those suffering from brain fog.
So I will repeat the advises on which aminos to take in which case:
• When you are feeling anxious, stressed or tense, take GABA, tryptophan, 5-HTP or taurine.
• When you have low energy, or feel apathetic, take tyrosine.
• When you are having difficulty concentrating or you have memory problems or feel mentally ‘fuzzy’, take tyrosine.
• When you are feeling hypersensitive to noise, lights, touch or pain, take DL-phenylalanine (this is a combination of D- and L- phenylalanine).
• When you are having trouble sleeping, take tryptophan or 5-HTP, GABA, and/or taurine.
• When you are irritable, take tryptophan or 5-HTP.
• To offset cravings, take glutamine or GABA.
• When you are depressed and apathetic, take tyrosine. When depressed, tense and agitated, take 5-HTP or tryptophan.
And I will finish with the 1 million dollar question: Does anyone of you knows of people who have fully recovered and never crashed again ?
Can you send me links so I can try and figure out what happened to them ?
Thank you to you all. I send you my best wishes for your recovery.
Ozeph.
