Yes, you are right. 
I have not even read any of your posts, I just glanced them. Sorry.
I hear you loud and clear but I am still way too scared of trying anything else because I don’t want to risk losing my gains, even though I know the position I’m taking is completely illogical and makes no sense because there should be no risk. It’s amazing what PFS can do to a person psychologically.
I did not want to say anything because I technically do not have PFS (I know people do not like non pfs people on here) but I did take saw palmetto and various ssri’s plus ritalin and adderall…one of these messed me up bad. So I try not to say anything and just read this board because I have similar problems as you guys. Sorry! I am desperate for help so I am here to try and find things that will help with my condition. This board is extremely helpful! I cannot say how thankful I am for finding this message board. I have learned a lot here.
I got some MMT from amazon yesterday and I just wanted to say after a day of trying MMT I had erections at night and again today. I never get them! better mood,sleep, energy everything joetz and the other poster described. i have been down in the dumps because nothing has been working and I have tried everything… I am not cured but this gets me going again big time! Obviously its still early and it might go away but I just wanted to thank joetz and maria and all the others on here for sharing with us your experiences. you guys don’t know how many others out there are reading this stuff and trying it. I really appreciate it and hopefully this will keep working. so far its been great. thank you.
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Thank you for coming in here and reporting your improvements Researchers. If you have been screwed over by Saw Palmetto or SSRI’s it is useful having you on this forum. Please stick around and let us know how you get on.
Joetz, Lennon and others - do you all plan to drop the MMT eventually? i am interested in how you all feel once you drop the supplement
@researcher: I am really happy to read that!!!
@bluecloud87: maybe in 10 years I am ready to try to get off MMT. I don’t care if I have to take it for the rest of my life. Though, I did cut down to 2 tables for a long time, maybe 8 weeks, and I didn’t notice much of a difference. I don’t know really why I went back to 3 again…
How come u still visit this site if mmt is so great for you. what has mmt not fixed that you hope to find here?
my supply of mmt arrived today. i am sat here with 3pills in my hand debating what to do.
she is saying that it has helped her A LOT…not that mmt has cured her or made her feel just like she used to before …
Thanks!
take them maybe?
I ordered some MMT. It’ll take a while to ship to Canada. Will report back.
I might consider dropping it but I am really too scared I might go back to where I was before starting and that’s a really scary place
Maybe after I feel comfortable that my body I completely healed I’ll consider coming off of it. I’m not sure what I’ll do. If I do come off it and start getting sick again it may be something I’ll have to take for life. And if that’s the case I have no problem being on this product for life.
Why are people asking if others are thinking of dropping it? If MMT is helping ppl, who cares how long you have to stay on it for. Its cheap enough and shouldnt have any side effects so why not stay on it forever if its going to help.
Well - finally my bottle arrived! I went with Ultra as I prefer less pills. Maximum is 240 mg while Ultra is 360 MG. So I am ready finally to add to this little experiment.
So dosage wise am I to understand 4 Maximum at night or 3 Ultra?? Or two Ultra vs. 3 Maximum. What exact dosage are folks taking. And it seems from this thread that right before bedtime is best???
The way it was explained to me is that 4 maximums is the same as 3 ultras
As far as when to take them, I would try experimenting and see what works for you.
The reason I take 3 MMT pills right before I go to sleep are the following:
In the beginning I would sometimes have minor crashes in between each pill. So I tried taking them all before sleep instead. An unexpected consequence was that I slept a thousand times better and started to dream once again. Since restful sleep has been key to improvement, I decided to stick with that. That’s just how I reason…
Thank you - its funny as since stopping fin I RARELY have dreams. It so infrequent that the odd nights it does happen it is noticeable…
I am going to start with 3 Ultra right before bed - I plan to update all on what happens.
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Milk Thistle Action
Milk thistle stimulates the flow of bile. In addition to having positive effects on digestion, increased bile flow helps remove dihydrotestosterone via the stool, potentially easing acne, according to Balch. In “Prescription for Herbal Healing,” Balch reports that one study, performed at the Center of Cancer Causation and Prevention in Denver, found that silibinin — a key antioxidant component of milk thistle — induces prostate cancer cells to return to a normal life cycle, effectively slowing the growth of the cancer.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/307235-milk-thistle-extract-testosterone/
Just thought i would throw this out there…I have no idea if its true… but that thing about dht perplexes me. dont we need more dht? then why is it helping? not worried… probably doesn’t mean anything…just wondering out loud…
Well - actually the liver is what rids your body of all excess hormones. My belief is that it helps balance E to T ratio by ridding us of some excess E. Result would be more free T - which even a small change can be noticeable.
So last night was my first dose and I woke up CURED!!!
Actually, really did not notice anything yet other than the fact that I did have one dream last night - see my note above. Also, not to be gross but quite the ugly BM this a.m.
Did you take all three in one shot before bedtime? I’m looking forward to seeing how you are doing tomorrow