JoeKool’s story: Long term HCG

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#104

So we have New Yorker who is successful on joe’s protocol and kio94 who’s not ?

This is all that matters guys right ? The Data/ results of the experiment?

Not this endless going back and force over who you think really has PFS and who you think really does not have PFS. The mods should stop this stuff because it takes away from what we really need to know which is the following:

How many people tried to replicate joes experience with HCG and the outcomes and knowing as much as possible about the peoples labs who succeed and don’t succeed.

Looks like 1 win 1 loss to me so far and that’s pretty good …

Now imagine if we did not have the arguing but instead focused our energy on having 10 more people trying this. The man is here recovered helping people try to replicate his experience. And we are going to argue about who has PFS and who does not ? Not smart. Should not be happening in a thread like this

Look at joes ray peat thread. We need to read through almost 70 pages just to get 5 pages worth of the actual data. It’s absurd. These sites need mods who will extract the actual data from the experiments and put them in a new thread. Then close the original circus thread that these all turn into. Continue the experiment discussion only in a new thread. Simple.

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#105

totally agree

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#106

I haven’t noticed any talk about who has PFS and who doesn’t. What are you guys referring to?

When I talked about something not existing I was referring to orthog accusation that I had said someone doesn’t have PFS. He couldn’t provide a single example of my actually saying that – no example exists. What are you guys talking about?

People have been trying HCG for 15 years here and there aren’t any reliable recoveries with it. What is new in this thread?

#107

Sounds like you need to try it

New Yorker’s testimony isn’t credible.
Neither is Joekool’s

Sounds like more losses than wins to me.

#108

Please explain to me what you think isn’t credible about my testimony. I have no incentive to report anything other than what’s happening.

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#109

Please understand that I don’t know the user New Yorker. But I see nothing in this thread that would lead me to believe that his feedback is not creditable. Also I do know user Joekool. In fact I have known him dating back to 2017. I am very familiar with all of his trials and experiences.

I may try HCG. It’s one of the very few things I have not tried. But I am currently testing neurotransmitters as a way to replicate what joe thinks cured him. In fact neurosteriods impact receptors in the brain in similar ways as neurotransmitters. I recently put my self in PFS like insomnia by increasing neurotransmitters. I also cured my seven year long constipation on this protocol. So I’m trying to figure out why these things happened in my case. Once I get this squared away and hopefully get my self out of insomnia I have a few more experiments to do. If I can’t cure myself on the path I’m currently on I will trial the HCG.

At the end of the day same team same fight
Hope you can recover man

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#110

Unless you’ve gone back and deleted your posts there have been many times we’ve discussed this and you vehemently defended your position that guys who are treated effectively don’t have PFS. I don’t want to argue the point but at least have the decency to acknowledge your previously flawed stand.

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#111

I’m interested in people trying Joe’s HCG protocol. The same way he ran it. Curious if the out come for others who run it the right way. Especially if they did it with before, during and after neurosteriod labs. I know that’s asking for a lot though.

I’m talking testing urine Alleopregnenolone, plasma 5a-DHP, 3a-diol and 3b-diol along with others to see if HCG increases them

Anyone feeling scientific?

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#112

Utter nonsense, and of course I haven’t deleted any posts, I’m not here to engage in petty nonsense I’m here to see PFS/PAS/ PSSD get fixed. I forgive you but needless to say next time see if there is any actual justification for accusation before making.

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#113

If you don’t mind can you please share what is your protocol for increasing neurotransmitters?

#114

its ok guys he forgives you

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#115

I will make a new thread sometime today explaining in order to help this thread stay about Joe’s protocol.

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#116

7th week HCG. It has quite pronounced negative effect, which is fatigue and sleepiness. Also subjectively it makes ED a bit worse.

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#117

What is your HCG dosage ?

What have you had for labs prior to taking HCG?

#118

250 iu 3 times per week. I didn’t do labs before HCG. they don’t mean much in the context of our condition. I mean i done it many times earlier, its always the same fluctuating within the range. T, E2, DHT… etc

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#119

Hmm

In my opinion it will take some real digging to figure out more about why some get better on HCG and why some get worse

Maybe before, during and after neurosteriod testing would tell us more. Get baseline levels, run HCG per Joe’s protocol wait until you feel better or worse and then run the same labs again while still on the HCG to see what changed. It would be expansive but worth it

#120

I speak to @NewYorker often via phone. He is a great guy. I can tell you for a fact he is being 1000% honest with all of you and under the care of one of the best endocrinologists in Manhattan. He’s a very nice good dude. Don’t doubt his experiences he is being honest and truthful.

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#121

What are your plans? Are you going to continue to see if it gets better?

#122

yes, will do 12- 15 weeks.

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#123

Looks like that downswing I had was just caused by stress, slept well last night and feel great cognitively. HCG wins for now :muscle:t3::muscle:t3:

Just need ED to f**k off now. I went onto tinder not sure if good or bad thing since I prob wouldn’t be able to get up. Within 5 mins got insanely hot girls messaging me, I immediately logged off and now need solutions ASAP.

Viagra, Cialis, alpha blocker, penis injection, some sort of corticosteroid people here keep talking about?

Please please anyone with performance enhancement experience can you give to advice

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