instead of a standard 100 mg once a week trt protocol with 250 ius hcg weekly, why not split up test dosage to 40 or 50 mg twice weekly with hcg added that day?
that way e2 will probably remain lower
or even e3d test injection at eve lower dosage, since you have no problem injecting this much
are you injecting drostanolone propionate? it costs me 40 euros per 10 ml over here…
or are you using the masteron enanthate version? this is also available and has a longer half life…
Good post cumkwakka. Clearly you have BB experience. I have learned a lot from BB forums.
Yes, I am now injecting Drostanolone Enanthate (longer acting vs Propionate). I prepared it from powder imported from China. The formulation I used is thus:
2% Benzyl Alcohol
20% Benzyl Benzoate
78% Peanut oil.
You can get the formation from www.basskiller.com
Look at the post by ‘notacow’ on home Testosterone Enanthate production.
The preparation was simple and effective and I have bought all the laboratory equipment including weighing scales and vial crimping devices. I now have an ample supply of Drostanolone and will make my own preparation for the rest of my life. I use a 45micron filter and sterilise the vials at 200 degrees for 30 minutes after preparing the drug.
I have been injecting the Enanthate ester for the last 5 days and am getting better again (after lowering my dose of Drostanolone Propionate as I was running out). Bear in mind it takes 3 days for the Drostanolone to have it’s peak effect (after the body breaks down the enanthate ester).
I FEEL so much better with Drostanolone in me. I am finding I have to use a high dose versus BB (they are looking to get ‘cut’ from Masteron whereas I am looking for full DHT replacement). They take max of 1gram per week.
I believe I require as much a 2 grams of Masteron Enanthate per week. I am not yet totally better; perhaps 60% of prefin, but erections are 90%, acne etc is improved.
The acid test will come in the next few weeks as I increase the dose towards 2g per week but I have a big beautiful supply of Drostanolone and here goes. Now taking merely 50mg T per week (plus HCG) and feeling great. Really.
I’m onto something chaps. I tell you. Watch this space. I’m a fucking mad dog and I want to get better. Chat soon.
JN
What are your improvements specifically with this protocol?
JN YOU ARE THE F*CKING MAN!!!
Hi JN,
Don’t mind me …I’m just thinking out loud.Since you are compensating for the DHT which is no longer being produced in your prostate,seminal vesicles,penis etc. I would think that there would be no change in Adiol-G readings.Adiol-G(to my best understanding) indicates the 5ARII activity (within these organs and elsewhere in the body),and since this is being bypassed with direct HRT(Masteron) one would think that your next Adiol-G reading would be about the same.
Now we don’t care about Adiol-G if the desired effect is obtained with lifelong Masteron HRT…Right?
Keep up the great work…you are almost there!
Adiol G is a marker of DHT metabolism as it is a DHT metabolite. There are other markers which are more specific for 5AR2 activity. See Adiol G thread under ‘Hormone’ section.
JN
Thanx for the info…We are all looking forward to seeing your next blood numbers…whenever you are ready to run them.Cheers!
Just to update. From today I am on the following protocol:
Testosterone (Sustanon 100) 20mg twice a week. Thus 40mg T per week
HCG 150iu 4 times per week
Drostanolone Enanthate 750mg six times per week
I am feeling good and erections are good. I need more time to settle on the above regimen. Supply of above has been a problem and I have been on holiday for 2 weeks. I also had a problem with the Whatman 0.45 micron filters I use to filter the Drostanolone I have made.
I am also surprised how much Drostanolone I require but I am not worried as it is not hepatotoxic.
I now have an ample supply of the above and am interested to see if I get better. I think I will. Here goes.
JN
JN,
You said Dros. 6x a week 750 mg. Is that 150 mg per day?
No, 750mg six times per week of Drostanolone Enanthate. Note that 750mg enanthate is probably equal to 500mg of Propionate ester.
The only way anyone here is going to be able to afford this cost is by making their own from powder, as I have done.
JN
Hi JN
what r u taking for Estrogen? or you are not having any proble for E2.
Also do you have any problem with water retention? if yes how are you getting the water out?
thanx
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Ok, I’ll quote this back to you in a few weeks. Idiot. You happily private message me for advice and information, which I give you for free. You take my advice, as you believe it to be good advice.
I’m only a guinea pig for myself. Getting myself better is my main aim. I don’t have to come here and share my experiences. I find most people here demotivated and unresourceful. Your cure is to pump in 600mg of T with no E2 control and no HCG use. That’s not going to be as good as my cure. You are probably infertile now and will suffer the longterm sequelae of permanently high T (cardiac, vascular, not to mention psychological).
This doesn’t make sense. If I’m finding something is working for me, how can ‘my findings be premature’?
Would you prefer that I don’t share my experiences?
These were my observations 2 weeks after Drostanolone use. Note the lack of emotion in my findings
1. Within 10 mins I FELT BETTER. Markedly so. Zero anxiety. Much happier. No argument.
2. Increased sweating
3. Increased acne R side neck (a third of what it was pre fin)
4. Increased body hair (difficult to assess but I think so)
5. Increased vascularity arms and legs, hands, feet
6. Loss of central abdo fat, much more ‘cut’
7. Increased beard density
8. Increased nasal bogies ( I used to pick my nose a lot, this is a good sign, and I wasn’t looking for it)
9. Improved erections, semi morning woods regularly, nearly full boner when fully stiumlated, more ejaculate (but still stringy), fuller scrotum, larger testes. Libido difficult to assess as I’ve been messing around with Arimidex
10. Noticeably deeper sleep (wasn;t looking out for this, but feeling more refreshed).
11. possibly deeper voice.
I have based my predictions on the above findings, early in my treatment. What do you mean by ‘unbiased reality’? You don’t make sense. You write like a fool.
I haven’t said I’ve found cure, merely that I think Drostanolone will turn out to be MY cure, based on the above findings. It’s also not my theory. It’s a rather obvious avenue to explore based on widespread low AdiolG levels, theoretical science and my prior beneficial use of Proviron (a weak DHT). It’s not rocket science.
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No, I’m here as a patient. I’m not trying to treat anyone. I have had several approaches from members of this forum to ‘treat’ them, and have declined. I’m here because I’m a sufferer and a patient and it is right to share my experiences.
I’m not encouraging others to take Drostanolone. I am keen to venture, however, they will feel and function better, should they choose to take it. And what do you mean by ‘all of these unproven substances’?? Idiot. Stop fudging and be more specific.
Using Testosterone intramuscular is a proven form of TRT
Using HCG twice weekly at 250iu is accepted as being part of optimal TRT, a protocol devised by Dr John Crisler, who I was a patient of in 2005, and who recommended the regimen to me. You are the ignorant fool who would rather type vague nothingness into a computer instead of researching the value of a drug you should be taking. Meanwhile, your Leydig cells are desensitising and are probably less responsive to GnRH analogues (see study on permanent GnRH unresponsiveness following
oestrogen treatment for prostate cancer).
You stupid fool. You’re the one taking T in such a high dose that you suffer the aforementioned longterm effects. And let’s analyse what I am on
Testosterone at 40mg per week (versus your 600mg per week!). Enough said. I’m happy with my dose, thanks!
HCG. Not toxic. Merely an LH/FSH analogue and my dose of 250iu twice a week will certainly NOT cause Leydig cell desensitisation.
Drostanolone. See the literature I posted in ? November. I specifically posted ‘safety’ information and you will see Drostanolone is NOT hepatotoxic, particularly when injected IM, as there is no first pass metabolism. But you probably don’t know what ‘first pass metabolism’ is.
So my drugs seem safe! In fact, what is even more amusing is that you are on a far MORE UNSAFE regimen than me! The drug YOU ASKED ME ADVICE FOR when you private messaged me to look for help (Proviron) is notably hepatotoxic such that Schering (the manufacturer) incorporates warnings as to hepaotoxicity in the product information. It also mentions ‘a transient rise in liver enzymes’ but you probably wouldn’t have read this. And I certainly doubt you’ve checked your LFTs. Idiot.
Fatality? Huh? Did you pluck this out of your ass?
I’m not bringing others on board. Other people can do what they want. I’m merely reporting my observations in using Drostanolone. I’m sorry that my ‘diary’ format seems to offend you.
I disagree with your crappy 100% cure you fool. I bet you my bottom dollar you end up following my exact regimen. Even down to the way that you end up making Drostanolone in your kitchen.
I bet you follow what I do in the future. You won’t ‘have a problem with much of this’ then, will you?
JN
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lol 
thanks man this made me laugh haha
jn:
could you elaborate on HGH? i remember from the old thread that this worked pretty good for your libido/wood
why aren’t you taking this at the moment?
also side question:
since you are injecting on your own, how are you going to take everything along when you go on holiday without a prescription?
Don’t take it personally Dustin.
JN’s heart is in the right place - it’s just that he can seem a little…erm…overenthusiastic sometimes, which can come across as arrogance (I think they force doctors to develop that attribute in first year med school lol).
If he finally does come up with a cure or some form of effective treatment it will be good news for all of us.
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You know from the response Its clearly JN who’s got more Testosterone… Both individuals have valid points, everyone here is trying to help, lets not get caught up in emotions. Were all old enough to make decisions for ourselves and should live with those consequences…
Listen here buddy. Why the hell are you coming onto my thread to assassinate my character? Go away. I’m open to constructive criticism and challenges to the ways and means I go about trying to recover, but I won’t tolerate misplaced, inaccurate, inarticulate, baseless waffle. And certainly not from someone who I have given sensible, decent advice and encouragement to.
Unfortunately, you see yourself as a big fish on this website with your ‘100% cure’. The truth is that most men here, probably including me, would totally relieve most sexual issues at 600mg T per week.
You feel you have sufficient status on this website as to hijack my thread (which is one of the more progressive threads) by posting a punchy soundbyte-esque phrase in capital letters to shift the focus of attention to you, ‘Mr 100% cure’.
You are, unfortunately, a phillistine. You’re just a desperate man who pumps in a lot of testosterone. Nothing more.
It is unlikely that you are as intelligent, determined, resourceful or capable as me, so I suggest you stay in your little box, and keep quiet, Mr T, and keep following the leaders.
Who was the first to try Proviron? I was. Does it help? Yes. Should I encourage people to take Proviron? Yes.
Who was the first to try HGH? I was. Does it help? Yes. Should I encourage people to take HGH? Possibly, in some circumstances.
Who was the first to try Masteron? I was. Does it help? Yes. Should I encourage people to take Masteron? Yes.
I’m trying to break ground in the fight to get better. My tactics are open to scrutiny and free to be criticised in an articulate, intelligent manner, not with saggy self-promoting soundbytes.
Everyone else just has to take the rough with the smooth, as it’s a rocky ride, most of all for me.
I say it again, Dustin. I bet my bottom dollar you follow my tactics in the future.
JN