I'm cured

I have been a long time lurker on this site and have signed up to reply. Well done on your recovery CDnuts. your posts have always been a huge inspiration to me to keep fighting this. I am really pleased for you.

I seem to remember reading that you suffered badly from lack of emotions / Anhedonia?? For me this is the biggest remaining issue. I crave the ability be able to interact emotionally fully again with the world and to feel everything. I wandered if you have been totally cured of this issue, and if so what you would attribute most to fixing it. Would you say its the test boosting protocol outlined on the first page of this thread?

Once again, well done on your recovery.

hey cdnuts thanks for sharing your info,

Just curious in your search to get better did you ever try trt over the 5 years?

When I say I’m cured…it means just that. I’m back to my old trouble making, wise ass, snarky, quick witted self again, and it feels better then words can describe. Almost better the I remember it being.

Unfortunately I can’t compartmentalize which portion of the regimen fixed which part of me, because really, the body doesn’t work that way. The brain is connected to the body and vice versa. This is the main problem with the current western medical model. We are not machines and cannot be treated as such. Everything effects everything else. By making your whole self as healthy as you can possibly be, things tend to work themselves out if given enough time. Again, consistency over time is what you have to strive for here. If you’re body is shot out, it’s going to effect your brain output. If your brain is shot out, it’s going to have a physical effect on your body. This is an inescapable fact of being slowly being recognised by small groups of MD’s.

I’ll bring this book up again as it pertains to this convo. Get the book by Dr. Mark Hyman called “The Ultra Mind Solution.” It talks about this connection and has a supplement regimen which I put into use with my own healing.

Never.

CDnuts- very interstesting, I read one of your old posts where you mentioned you had Tinnitus or hearing noises. Has this symptom also resolved itself?

Wow…good question. I still have the tinnitus, strangely enough. It comes and goes depending on what I’m doing…or ingesting. If I have a few drinks, it shuts it down. But the next day it’s back when the alcohol wears off…and it’s a bit louder. Then it drops back into the back ground.

It’s related to Gaba some how.

After everything I’ve been through, it’s pretty much a non issue for me. Some nights I lay in bed to fall asleep and it’s not there. It comes and goes.

cdnuts, i’ve read several accounts of people on this forums taking DHT like proviron, but they seem to get better, and then get worse afterwards. how do you attest to this? i’m worried if i take it, i will lose all progress i’ve made in the last 2 years from eating healthy. do you think it’s smart to start slow with it?

here’s someone that took priviron and it happened:

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also, awor took proviron and said he felt good, then he had to keep taking more and more and more to hit a baseline normal. but he said it started making him feel worse over time, his words were, like any other androgen he was taking.

how do you know the right way of taking it? was it your clean diet a part of the success of it?

I can’t say why things happened to other people. There can be a myriad of reasons why things didn’t work out for them. I used pro hormone supplementation in addition to the 15+ things I was doing to nudge my system in the correct direction. I never waivered, and I was ALWAYS consistent.

If you’re just going to take hormones and hope you’ll be fixed without doing anything else, chances are it’s just going to give you temporary relief because you’re not actually changing anything with your system. You’re adding fuel to a broken down car. You’re only going to get so far.

If I were you, I would jump on the outlined regimen and make it your way of life. After a few months of NEVER stopping the program, add in the hormones for a short cycle and see how you feel. Only you can decide what is appropriate based on your own risk tolerance and the way you feel.

Guys…

I’m getting alot of PM’s from people asking me what they should to in regards to their —fill in symptom here----

My answer is ALWAYS going to be the same, regardless of what your symptoms are. I took the time to come back here and give back for a variety of personal reasons. The outline In the beginning of the thread is all you need.

The bottom line is you are broken, whether mentally, or physically or a combination of both. The only way to fix yourself is to get as healthy as you possibly can. You need to give your body the conditions to let it do this. You need to supply the raw materials. How you do that is listed in this thread. Health builds upon health. It’s a slow process which you either do, or don’t. There is no “trying” this. Trying means you just didn’t do it long enough or didn’t include ALL of the components or both.

Regimen + Consistency + time = Healing.

You may be making things harder on yourself then you need to. Start the program. Change your life for the better and things will start to slowly change. How long this will take will depend upon how bad you are. It’s going to be different for everyone. It is very, very simple, but not easy.

Let’s keep this thread for specific questions regarding the program.

WOW! OH WOW!!! Cannot emphasize those wows enough!

Since my last post, I had to go away for the weekend to a friend’s farm. As I was in on a holiday I decided to disconnect a little from the internet just to relax. That’s why I’m telling you this just now: I FEEL ALIVE AGAIN!!!

CDNUTS you are an ANGEL, man! I finally feel like a man again after almost FOUR YEARS of being physically and emotionally numb!

As I told you, I partially started your protocol about three weeks ago (HIIT 3 times [4-1 6x in 30 min] a week instead of running 10km/day as I used to, Carb Backloading on the workout days Mon-fri). As I told you, I bought the T booster supplements from the US based website and they still haven’t arrived here, that’s why I havent included them to the regimen yet. BUT the new way of exercising + diet have made me FINALLY have a FULL erection last morning WITHOUT having to take a viagra Pill, and man it felt EXACTLY how it would feel before I ingested the poison called finasteride!!! That was an impossible task for me and my penis for the last 3 years and I literally watched my erection for minutes feeling like the greatest man on earth.

I don’t know! I figure the partial routine enhanced the balance of my endogenous levels of T and E. I haven’t worked out since last Thursday, so I guess the T levels dropped today and I feel a little numb again but MAN! I have the intuition that I’ll feel good to go tomorrow again after I work out today. In the farm I coulnt backload either and ate whatever was avaiable, so I guess my body was finally strting to benefit from the last 3 weeks of diet and exercising and I kind of crahsed it again after not eating properly during the weekend.

I cannot wait to be able to fast and introduce the T boosters! They will do the rest of the work in me! I am filled with new hope and trully feel I’ll be cured too!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

On your comments and answers on my last post:

[i]“How is your weight? Are you holding abdominal fat deposits? If so, I’d suggest dropping some weight or fasting first before cycling for the sake of aromitization. You don’t want all that T turning into E. Also, this is where the HIIT comes into place as well. Are you sprinting?”

“Always a good idea to have an estrogen blocker on hand just in case. You see, what some people don’t like about my methods is that I do most of it by “feel” so it’s difficult to translate between individuals. I’m pretty sure you can get Chrysin from physicians formulas and DIM is from Bioresponse. They are both very good. If you are unsure of the way to use these, just use it one day out of the week to be on the safe side.”[/i]

I have always been an athlete, and even during the dark times after fin I never stopped exercising (working out, cycling and running). Today, as before, my body fat percentage stays around 10% so I guess E convertion from T isn’t such a big problem in me. But I’ll buy DIM and Chrysin too, just for the sake of it, and use them if I feel I’m too testosterone-y while cicling the T boosters in order to avoid conversion. i’ll do it just like you, take them a couple times a week.

“If you’ve read the book, then you’ll know what I mean when I say I’m doing the density bulking phase, somewhat modified, of course. I do large backloads on workout days and very small ones (100g maybe) on non workout days.”

I chose to follow the “strenght accumulation” backloading protocol, because it fits me better, somewhat modified as well (since I was eating freely during the weekends). Now you told me you’ve done it during the non workout days, I’ll try to do the same and see what happens.

I wish you well on this venture. I imagine you’ll find fasting to be a very humbling and profound experience. I’m glad that someone going into the medical field is going to have this first hand knowledge. Maybe you’ll be able to make a difference in the current failed system.

I’ve already been trying to make a difference with the medical people I’m surrounded by. I kind of made my problem public (without telling them this was happening to me, but to a cousin instead) during my dermatology and urology classes last year, classes in which professors still praise finasteride. I turned their lives into hell by stopping their lectures and telling my university collegues the story “of my cousin” . I wasnt’ashamed to think they might be thinking it’s happening to me but relieved to know I’d avoid the future doctors in my class to make the same mistakes and prescribe that shit. It felt good, and soon I got people reading about the post finasteride syndrome. If someday I can help others with the knowledge you’ve been sharing with us, the one taking all the credit will be you, be sure!

With regards to Carb Backloading. Would you do this once a week or more often? I’m currently doing it every Friday night to spike my insulin after a work-out, following a Low Carb diet for the rest of the week.

It depends on your goals. You’re better off getting the book or even getting free info from the net. It also depends on when during the day you work out. Carb back loading is all about timing your carb intake to take advantage of natural hormonal cycles.

The gist of it is to eat carbs after a heavy weight training work out. Preferably working out in the afternoon and eating carbs right up until bed. In the morning and up until your next work out you just eat anything BUT carbs. Rinse, repeat. This is a very basic explanation but the program in itself has a whole forum and website dedicated to it, so I won’t go anymore indepth then that. Not gonna reinvent the wheel here.

Remember…stay consistent. Keep it up even if you are feeling 100%…For me it is a way of life.

Hello to everyone. I’m out from this forum since a long time cause i’m geerally better ,sexually and healthy but i’m still not back to normal (but i’m going better and better).

Said this, i read this recovery story and i heart many great stories about water fast, so i’m giving a shot.
I’m on my 3th day of water fast and all i can say is that it’s f… hard.

So i’ ask you all an advise just to follow the Cdnuts’ s program …correct me if i’m wrong:

a. 14 days of water fast
b. afetr finished the water fast, stay on a good diet (vegetables fruit,raw food etc)
c.Run your cycle = 6 weeks. Do your PCT = 4wks. Run Test Boosters = 6 wks. Start over and cycle again.
d.omega3 magnesium

…ok,this is the program but i need your help to understand wich products i can buy for “cycle” ; wich one for “PCT”; and wich one for “test booster”…
I ask you this not cause I’m a lazy guy but because in Italy we dont have so much drug/integrators stores so i don’t even know what theese terms mean.

I thank you so much for the help.
cheers

I remember you from back years ago. Glad to hear your doing better. A few things:

You shouldn’t be doing a fast of two weeks on your own…

The stuff I used to cycle is not available anymore so I have nothing to compare it to that’s on the market now.

You can buy all of the Testosterone boosters from the website I listed in the outline at the beginning of the thread.

Make sure you used ALL of the vitamins listed.

And yes, water fasting is not easy. Easily one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in my life. And I’ve done four of them.

Just got this email from the place I’ve fasted in CA three times. The one doctor there has come out with a fasting video. Maybe helpful for some of you.

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Wow, four fasts? You must have seen significant benefits each time to keep doing them.

I instinctually feel I need to “start over” regarding my health. A water fast at True North just seems to be an obvious first step to me now. I’m aiming for early next year go go there.

Did True North help you in other ways other than the supervised fast (nutritional education, long-term planning, counseling, etc.)???

Thank you very much for the replies…

  1. Cdnuts: You shouldn’t be doing a fast of two weeks on your own…
    Why not ? how did you do it? with a super visor? I’m doing by myself

2.When I have to take the vitamins? during the fast or after when I’ll be on my straight food regime?

Thank you again!

True North and all of their Docs are into a partial raw vegan diet. That’s what they push. If you take one look at them, you can see that they aren’t living high on the hormones. I use them for their fasting capabilities only.

I did get benefits each time, but the first time was the most profound. I wish I would have went for three weeks the first time, but I was nervous because I never fasted before, and the detox from the pharmaceuticals was horrendous.

For those interested.

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