Yes…fruit and veggies.
If anyone’s interested I’m selling my Wicked Supplements Res 100 bottles (2 of them). One is still sealed and unopened. The other is down only a few capsules. The unopened one is going for $70.00 and the opened one is going for $55.00.
Hey CDNuts,
How long did you obstain from drinking before you recovered? for example did you finally quit drinking in winter 2010 and got your first morning wood mid 2012? I ask because I am having a tough time stopping drinking on the weekends 
thanks man
I struggled with this for a long time. I would go months and then have a slip up and get shit faced. It would always set me back a week or two and I would ALWAYS regret it. I finally stopped with no slip ups early in 2011. It made all the difference in the world. Listen…you just have to stop if you want to get right. There is no way around it. Alcohol plays on the same receptors we are trying to heal. They need to be left alone for a long, long time.
Just keep in mind if you put in the work now, you will be rewarded with being able to enjoy alcohol later on.
juice and water fasting can be very beneficial, as long you have great digestion.
during a fast acids are getting flushed out of the tissues and organs into the gut. A good bowel flora, transforms these acids, toxins etc. into stools
However, If your flora is weak, acids are going to be reabsorbed and can make you feel much worse.
its like jojo …
that was my problem with fastign and eating too many fruits, since fruits are very cleansing…
with a great bowel flora, you can literally supercharge your fasting experience …
another thing that is worth to mention is, that many toxins are fat soluble, not water soluble
Hey there my friend!!
Water fasting can be very rough for the very weak. If you are very weak and just completely wiped out, juice feasting is the way to go. The thing people don’t like about the juice feasting is that you have to give yourself enemas every few days after you’ve been doing it for two weeks or more. But as far as energy is concerned, I’ve juice feasted for 45 days before without missing a day of work and walking three miles a day. The two methods are like night and day. When I water fast, I’m on the cough and laying down for the duration.
thought you guys should check this out if you are doing sprints: fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitnes … iques.aspx talks about proper stretching so you dont injure yourself as mercola said he injured himself in the past from doing them because he didnt stretch
i just started doing them this week… mercola said that sprints are the only form of cardio exercise that increase HGH which is cool. i’m looking forward to continuing to do them, thanks for that tip cd.
cdnuts, congratulations on your efforts and for sharing them here. I remember back in the day some people found your methods a bit cranky and unscientific but your success has been borne out by others improving through similar methods and some of the recent theorising about methylaton. The key thing for me here is that you are fully cured and no longer reliant on any supplements or tying a bit of metal to your sack etc.
I have some questions about your approach which I don’t think have been covered yet:
Do you have to take anti-estrogen supps as part of the regimen? You used to do this but I don’t see any mention here.
How many test boosters did you cycle per week and which are the most effective? I’m thinking trib, tongkat ali and ZMA but don’t know about the other one or two. That site you link to tries to sell herbs for its sponsor and wrongly lists horny goat weed, mucuna and rhodiola as T supps.
Did you just go with the paleo diet or did you include going fully raw and if so for how long?
Finally how are you meant to lift heavy weights and do intensive sprints when you severe muscle loss? How integral is this?
Cdnuts, I am really confused regarding carb back loading. At one point, you say you ate white rice, potatoes, quinoa, gluten free waffles and corn pasta, but at another point you say you only had vegies and fruits. Could you pelase clarify what kind of carbs you ate for your carb back loading? Can you be more specific and name the foods that you had for your carb back loading? are rice, potatoes, quinoa, gluten free waffles okay or only fruits and vegies? Thanks a lot.
100% means…100%. Not sure if I can break that down any further for you.
The science behind the ball zinger is sound. To me your post has a hint of skepticism and/or sarcasm in it. Not a fan. I got results from it. As you know, I could care less what people think. They are still here suffering…I’m not. That’s all that matters to me.
Horny goat weed, mucuna and Rhodiola ALL support healthy testosterone levels in different ways. There is nothing wrong about the stated uses for these supplements. You need to do more research if you’re in doubt. Is the site trying to sell supplements? Of course it is. That’s besides the point.
Thinking back…weren’t you one of those people who found my methods “cranky and unscientific?” It’s a good thing I didn’t give those people a second thought. I don’t have time nor desire to go back through post history as i already spend enough time here now. If you were, be glad I’m even responding to you, as there is nothing more I despise then someone who has a bad attitude and a closed mind. Some guys will NEVER get better, because they don’t have what it takes to do the necessary work nor the mental wherewithal to keep plugging along.
I took all the supps listed on the site and once every couple days I through in DIM and/or Chrysin for Estro control. I’m assuming everyone is reading the website I link to because it explains the cycling process very clearly. I’m not going to regurgitate that here.
You’re also asking questions I’ve answered already.
If you can’t lift heavy weights, do body weight exercises. The point is you have to exert yourself. If you have muscle wasting then the original protocol I listed on the first page of this post still stands. You need to to a fast and or feast, and start the protocol.
If you can’t lift weights, do push ups and pull ups. If you can’t do a pull up, start doing negatives until you can. It’s going to take WORK. And alot of it if you’re that bad off. The easiest changes you can make start with lifting your knife and fork.
Actually, no. I think you are confusing me with someone else. I guess some of my posts were somewhat erratic back in the day to your annoyance lol, but I never dissed any of your methods or trolled on the forum. I am complimenting you for your singlemindedness at a time when everyone else seemed to be looking for science, drugs or TRT to help, and noting that your methods back then have since been shown by others to have a basis in medical knowledge.
It does seem that there are quite a few other guys who have tried the extreme healthy living and exercise route without similar success however, so if anyone is trying or has tried something similar it might be a good idea to record their results in this thread.
That was in regards to a question about a specific time period during my healing phase. What I have down in the outline is what I believe should be followed. The complex carbs you mention were all used during backloading.
CDnuts, at which stage of recovery you recommend only veggies and frruits and at which stage complex carbs (rice, potatoes, etc) for carb back loading?
Another question: do you have any recommendation regarding cycling Vitamines and minerals supplements? I mean, if I am taking Vit D for example, is it okay to take it everyday or I should somehow cycle it? If you recommend cycling, how to cycle vitamines and minerals supplements?
Thanks a lot for answering our questions. I really appreciate your time and effort.
Congrats again, cd.
Have you by chance checked hormones, etc. prior to and proceeding your recovery? If so, did you happen to notice any changes? e.g. in Test, E2, DHT, Progesterone?
Sorry if you have already gone through this in another thread. Thanks!
Hi
I.e. started getting hot flashes a month or so after I crashed now it has been almost 7 or 8 months I had not have hot flashes recently I’ve started to have hot flashes again can you tell me what is happening to my body
Thank you
I don’t recommend a raw diet anymore. It’s too cleansing. That’s what the fast in the beginning is for. I’ve said it a few times already that it was always a work in progress. After the fast go straight to a Paleo diet with back loading.
I never cycled vitamins. Get them and take them.
I feel I should be a little more clear here…A raw diet is excellent for cleansing and getting your body as clean as it can possibly be. This is a very important step. I went WAY over board in this aspect. I did raw for months and months on end in addition to fasts and juice feasts…i did it all. Was this why I’m healed and other people aren’t? I don’t think so, although there is no way I can really “know.”
It’s my OPINION that in order to build yourself up, Paleo with backloading is your best bet, as it wasn’t until I started Paleo that I really started to build muscle and corresponding hormonal responses.
So…if you don’t want to fast, or feast, then your other option here would be to go raw for a couple months. It’s all cleansing. How can you tell when you are thoroughly cleansed? You’ll feel it. You’ll feel lighter, cleaner, mentally quicker. How long you cleanse depends on how bad off you are. Just know that when doing a raw diet, it is not easy. As a matter of fact I’d rather fast on water for 3 weeks then do a raw diet for two months.
Bottom line is, stick to the outline in the beginning of this thread. This is what I feel will give you the best results.
Then I apologize for getting you mixed up with someone else.
It should be noted in regards to “medical knowledge” that it is ALWAYS a decade or more behind what is cutting edge and known by smaller circles of people “in the know.” And of course it is based in science…as everything is, in one way or another. Just because it isn’t recognized or understood by the medical mafia and pharmaceutical companies means nothing.
In regards to other people “trying” this…I’d put money on the fact that it was NOT the same thing that I did, including all supplements and everything else. One of the things I’ve learned in life is that people are notorious for generalizing things that shouldn’t be generalized. This is specific, and needs to be so. I’d also go as far to say that even if they did everything exactly as they needed to, they didn’t do it CONSISTENTLY enough over a long enough TIME PERIOD. It’s quite common for people to do this with everything…“oh, I tried that diet, it didn’t work” how many times have you heard that? It didn’t work because they didn’t work it, they screwed it up somehow…it was their fault, not the diets.
I’m rambling now, but you get my point. Diet based things like this are always getting a bad rap because of peoples inability to do what they need to do, to stay the course. It’s always human error or lack of will, not the diet.
Cdnuts, I’m writting to say thank you SO MUCH for sharing your wonderful experience with us. I’ve been reading this thread like a companion book everyday, paying attention to every little detail of information you put out here, and have already started your protocol myself. Since I am on 5th year at med school, I cannot go through a 10-day fast period this time of the year for I’m at the hospital all week long, working my ass off. My vacations start in December and my plan is to be ready to fast then. I’ve done my research on it (as proposed by you) and I think I’ll be sucessful. While I can’t fast, I already read the carb backloading book twice and started doing it, on the work-out days of the week, which I’ve been doing very well for two weeks now. I never stopped working out, and that brought a little bit of my libido back with the time (I stopped fin on Feb 2012, used it for 2 years) but I still rely on Viagra Pills to have my full erection, and my glans sensitivity is far from what it used to be (althought some days it “magically” comes back, for a short period of time).
I’ve noted that a big part of your program is the T Boosters. I live in Brazil and could buy the ones, from diferent brands indicated on the website you mentioned here, but I prefered to buy the ones you used. So I visited Physician’s Formulas website and bought them from them. Still waiting for them to arrive, but they won’t up until November ( their international delivery is crap and takes very long. )
I was wondering if you could answer me some questions, to help me achieve your success, since It will take a while for me to have all itens needed to do exactly (or nearly) what you did.
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The T boosters will arrive here one month before I can fast. Should I cycle them, as told by you, during November, stop to fast in december, and restart cycling them after the fast, or should I just wait to use them after fasting?
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Androhard and similars are not allowed in Brazil, and therefore I cannot buy them outside my country to use them here. Do you think NOT USING it will make a huge difference in achieving the cure, as you did?
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The T booster website doesn’t cite any estrogen/aromatase blocker to enhance the formulas’performances. (I searched around it, maybe it’s hidden somewhere there). I’ve seen you recommend Chrysin and DIM, which I never heard of before. Are those really essentials? (note that I ask that because it’s impossible to compare the products you have avaiable in the US with the ones we have here in Brazil). If they are, where did you buy them and could you specify how you used them after the T Bosters?
My last question(s) would be about Carb Backloading in our situation: I do it every work-out day, and the book says “DON’T” on the non working-out days. I think I’ve seen you mention here you did it every night. Did you really do it all nights, no exceptions? If you didn’t, what did you do in your days-off?
I really appreciate all the help, and intend to share my experience here, as things happen. Thank you once again!
I wish you well on this venture. I imagine you’ll find fasting to be a very humbling and profound experience. I’m glad that someone going into the medical field is going to have this first hand knowledge. Maybe you’ll be able to make a difference in the current failed system.