Hey cdnuts,
You recommended taking a magnesium supplement. Just curious, what dosage did you use? The drug store on my block sells 250mg capsules-is that too much/too little?
Also I am getting ready to do a 10 day fast, is there anything I should do before starting the fast? And how did you come out of your fast, did you slowly start eating again or did you pig out?
Thanks for continuing to come back and answer our questions!
If you’re asking me that question I guess you’re going to attempt it on your own. I don’t recommend that. But regardless, the last thing you want to do is pig out. You could seriously, seriously hurt yourself. You need to do more research on fasting. I’ve discussed it at length. This thread is not the place for that.
And I recommend a mag supplement that is powdered and you dissolve in water. You can feel it work as soon as you take it. It’s dosed at about 350 mgs. The brand I use is Natural Calm.
Hello Cdnuts,
Can you comment on the reduced fertility warning on Androhard - I recently bought some and I’m a little concerned about that. Since you were in contact with Eric, the owner of Primordial Performance, did you ever speak to him about that?
Thank you!!
cdnuts,
I am very happy for you. It is great news that you recovered. It takes a lot of discipline to fast four times and to stick to the diet. I admire your will power.
Can you tell us what regimen you used for PCT? I am not so familiar with it but as far as I know you need to take some anti estrogens or SERMS? I have taken a SERM two years ago and it has made things worse for me (perhaps this is because I didn’t take anything else before such as androhard). Taking the SERM has led to penile shrinkage.
Thanks for coming back and reporting your success story.
My PCT was Testosterone Recovery Stack by, of course, Primordial Performance. Although they are not around anymore, there is an exact replica of this product here wickedsupplements.com/products-p … ate-stack/ I’m told this works just as well if not better.
Hello Cdnuts,
Did you have lowered semen volumes as a result of taking finasteride? If so, does your post recovery include normal volumnes as you remember them being for yourself?
Thanks!
Thanks for your help.
You’re welcome. Remember though. You HAVE to make sure you’re doing the other things as well. I can’t stress this enough.
Cdnuts,
I really don’t wanna say this, but I feel it’s my duty to do so: stay away from this forum. If you managed to recover, take it as a bless. God really blessed you. Don’t spend this amount of time here trying to help us - although I must say I’m really grateful you’re doing this. Everybody here knows that there’s no known formula to escape this condition.
You may come here from time to time, maybe every month or so, to answer our questions. Don’t risk it all coming here so often. IMO, although PFS is NOT a psychological thing, there is indeed a psychological component in all of this. You really don’t wanna be stuck again in some sort of pseudo-PFS or something like that, if you know what I mean.
To the other guys,
I hope you understand me. We’re all here in the same boat, myself included. However, one less sufferer is one less sufferer and this IS a big deal.
man STFU… there is no “psychological” aspect to this shit… you basically just slapped everyone in the face by saying that. cdnuts actually knows what it is like to be on our side and that’s why he’s here trying to help, he isn’t going to magically get PFS again by thinking about it.
Probably one of the most ridiculous posts I’ve read on this forum. There is nothing to risk coming here. I do so for the reasons I’ve mentioned earlier. Coming here is not going to give me something, or put me back to where I was. The thought of that is ludicrous.
And for you to think it’s okay to tell me when I may or may not come back is even more ridiculous. God had nothing to do with my recovery. I DID. And to alot of guys this information means more then you can even know.
Do me a favor, and leave this thread alone. You may come here from time to time to check in, but don’t spend too much time here. Wouldn’t want you to get stuck in some pseudo-something
He’s not throwing his life away by answering some important questions. Relax. I’m sure he’s already gotten on with life and won’t re-contract PFS by answering some questions on this forum. The more we know the better.
cdnuts I completely disagree with gmmoura regarding you returning to this site posting about your recovery. Quite the contrary your comments are more than welcome and can only help with this long struggle we are going thru.
I have been in and out of this site for as long as I can remember and like many others have tried many things with no success. I am planning to follow your protocol as I have nothing to lose by trying but I haven’t followed your posts thru the years so please clarify some of your recommendations.
(Fast. Just once, for two weeks or more if you can.)
When you say fast do you mean not eat anything only water for two weeks or simply start eating later on the day?
(You need to cleanse before you start anything. It will make your body so much more receptive to positive change.)
By cleanse do you mean taking something like a colon cleanser for a detox?
(****I also did several cycles of a DHT compound from primordial performance which helped in increasing the active enzymes that were wiped out by propecia. Unfortunately they have been shutdown by the FDA. There are other DHT based steroids that you could use, but I am not familiar with any others then androhard from primordial. Don’t just jump into using these products unless you do your research. You don’t want to end up worse then you are now. I had access to the producer of these drugs and he spent alot of time going back and forth with me on the science of how they work to increase active 5arII. It’s a can of worms I’m not going to get into but didn’t want to fail to mention it as I attribute the use of androhard and successful post cycle therapies to my overall recovery.)
I have looked for something similar to Androhard but every product seems to have been taken off the market by the FDA so what other product that you know of is similar or close to it that is still available? I have googled about DHT creams and such and there one called Andractim which I believe some have tried this product with no favorable results. Is this product similar to Androhard?
(Avoid intoxicants of any kind. You will be able to indulge again one day, just not today.)
By intoxicants I am assuming you mean alcohol and recreational drugs but what about caffeine? I drink coffee everyday and have for years. Would I have to quit caffeine too?
Again thanks for coming back and posting and giving some of us some hope.
I think gmmoura’s post, while it could have been worded better, was coming from a good place.
I’ve seen MANY people post that part of their attempts at recovery include NOT coming to this forum. It’s not that PFS is itself is psychological, but how humans react in any life situation can be. Hell, even I get OCD about this shit and can go overboard reading all these posts, which in turn can make me feel more “ugh.”
A lot of us experience this shit in a cyclical nature (gmmoura has posted about this), and it sucks when we see someone that may be recovered have another down swing.
So, in a not so well worded way, I think gmmoura was just trying to look out for you.
But, as you’ve mentioned cdnuts, you’ve beaten this thing and no amount of visiting this site is going to ruin that. Your recovery is providing a nice psychological (and hopefully physical) boost to many!
CDnuts,
Thanks for coming back to give us your hugely valuable advice.
I’ve managed to get myself back to a relatively good place through months of raw veganism, daily exercise and staying well clear of this forum - these 3 things alone are SO powerful in dealing with this. However, every time I drink (raw) booze or get high it brings me right back down again and I feel foggy and rough for days after. So frustrating as I’m a graphic designer and I make music and getting high used to accompany them so perfectly… I’ve reluctantly stopped intoxicants completely now but just wondering if you’re now able to go out drinking/get high etc having a good time until late like the good old days without feeling worse than you should after?
All the best,
I have found a product called 5-alpha test by Forerunner labs which is a DHT prohormone. As for the PCT, if you look at his earlier posts he mentioned wicked supplements res100 and toco-8. There is also a company called andro factory that will make very similar products (muscle-up and sustain-x) which won’t be available till early next year though.
Hi cdnuts,
Can you list what products you took which helped you recover ?
Mark
THANK YOU cdnuts. Your story has been so encouraging for me, and every time you update or respond to something, I feel even stronger myself. I plan to do a regimen very similar to yours in about a month or two, when I’m back living alone again. Thanks for coming. And yes - God had NOTHING to do with it. YOU did. Very well said, sir.
Well spotted bizzbee333.
5alpha test may be a similar product to Andro Hard, as it is largely based on epiandrosterone.
The following website has a buy one get one free offer on 5-alpha test:
anabolicaddictions.com/forer … -342-p.asp
I recently ordered EpiAndro which may be similar to Androhard and 5 alpha Test.
EpiAndro is based on epiandrosterone too:
uk.iherb.com/LG-Sciences-Epi-And … 0-ml/49135
I will let you know how its goes. Hopefully it helps and doesn’t make things worse 
Disclaimer:
What are the advantages of taking prohormones over pure DHT (proviron)?
Are the main components of AndroHard legal? If so they should be able to be procured independently if anyone has any sources, from what I read Stanozol seems to be the main ingredient, but I could be wrong.
AndroFactory is supposedly a con.