I took accutane, but me and many other post-accutane users have similar side effect profiles. Do you think using the steriod cycling in your recovery would be useful even if one had normal T levels?
When I went to the doctor, my T was high enough that they refused to test me for DHT…so could cycling help regardless of blood levels? If I just have low DHT could I DHT cycle without T boosting?
Do you, or anyone else here think that the dht/testosterone cycling would benefit someone with libido problems but normal testosterone levels? What about normal T but low DHT?
It is great to see this programme is working for you. Did you also fast. This is one element of the programme i am concerned s about. If so how long did you fast and did you go to a place like cdnuts to carry out the fast under medical supervision.
Hi cdnuts, thanks for sharing all your info with us. It’s really great you take this effort. I started your regime about a month ago and I already feel a little better. I have a question for you (and those who follow your regime). I get a lot of comments and questions from friends and colleagues about my new lifestyle, in particular my diet (no bread, potatoes, dairy products, pasta, soda, alcohol and so on) and I didn’t even start fasting yet. Off course I don’t feel like telling the real reason for my changed behaviour. I already lived quite healthy before, so that’s not a credible reason. Because of that I find myself entangled in all kinds of pretexts. How did you cope with that?
People ultimately feel threatened when they see you doing something that is healthier for you. On a subconscious level it makes them uncomfortable because they know they should be taking better care of themselves as well. It is a really predictable phenomenon that happens all the time when one person in a group of friends or family decides they want to better themselves. Whether through diet, or exercise or learning new skills, the surrounding people take notice that you are putting out effort to be something different then them.
For me though, I was always the guy doing something different then everyone else in the group all the time regardless, so it just wasn’t a big deal for me. I was questioned more out of curiosity such as “oh, here he is doing one of his things again, I wonder what this one is about.” Not to mention I just really do not care what others think…ever. This can be negative sometimes but I’ve found it to be a fantastic asset more then a hindrance in life.
Most people will settle for the status quo…they’ll settle for whats easy. Mediocrity. I was always one to strive for more then that.
If you really don’t want to bother with people all of the time. Just tell them you were having some health problems (make then up if you have to…bad sleep, achy joints, poor digestion…whatever.) and that your doctor put you on this new diet program and it is helping more then anything you’re ever done and that you feel fantastic eating the way you are. Say it without really knowing much about it…don’t try and sound too smart. If you do, you’ll ultimately have some know it all try and challenge you. Don’t bother. It’s a waste of energy. Most of the time if you tell people your doctor has you trying it, it will squash the convo right then and there.
Take the high road. Don’t preach it to people. They’ll end up resenting you for it.
Hi cdnuts –
Can’t tell you how refreshing and inspiring this whole thread is – and how much I (and a lot of others, I’m sure) appreciate you sticking around and responding to questions. I’ve been reading through your posts and preparing a regimen and am wondering about AndroHard. Seems it’s a fairly significant part of what you did, but as you know it’s not available and I’m not sure how to safely/legally procure it. Now I’m planning to skip it. Instead, I’ve ordered and received the 7 t-boosting supplements. My plan is to start cycling them, taking the vitamin regimen daily, embracing the Paleo diet (with backloading) and a heavy lifting/sprinting/resting training schedule. My question is whether you think not having AndroHard as a component of this will be a big deal? And also, you mentioned PCT a lot. Am I right that PCT would only apply if I was using AndroHard – not the t-boosting supplements? That is to say, if I;m not using AndroHard, I don’t need to do PCT?
Again, really appreciate your message, your attitude and your engagement here. And congratulations to you – can’t imagine how good you must feel.
I haven’t been on here in awhile. I’m going on 4 years. I’m 37 now. I’ve seen immense improvement over the course of four years, but am not cured yet. Things are still up and down. The highs are getting higher though as time goes on.
The one question I have for you is: Did you get your ability to have an erection by visual stimulus back? I can’t fathom ever getting that back. I can perform without much problem with my wife, but that feeling of seeing a hot girl and feeling lust to the point of erection is just not quite there and I can’t imagine it coming back.
cdnuts, would you being willing to get some tests done? I’m not asking for proof or verification, just greater evidence at what is impeding recovery.
Elevated SHBG levels is a common theme for a lot of members. SHBG binds against testosterone, rendering a very small amount bio-available despite healthy production of test. I wondered if yours had stabilised at a natural rate?
Glad you are finding this thread helpful. That is the intention.
I’ve mentioned this once before in this thread regarding Androhard. I can’t say for sure what impact the androhard had, but I know it was positive. I don’t know how much of my recovery to attribute to those cycles. They definitely helped, that’s for sure. Regardless, it’s a non issue now. You just have to go on with what I know works. The bottom line is you can never go wrong doing the right thing.
hey cdnuts, im suffering from one month now but i saw that people get better with fasting
i have some digestive problems at the moment. how much time should i wait to start fasting? and to prepare myself for the fast do i have to eat only raw food or it’s also good cooked vegetables and fruit?
i am avoiding all the gluten, sugars ecc.
Its so sad to see that in the recoveries section half of the recoveries are not 100% and the other half are people who just need the urge to write it here so they can convince themselves. There is no full recovery after this i think. there is a permanent alteration in our bodies’ biology. even if we get to the core of the problem that does not mean that immediately there will be a cure like a drug or sth. I am starting to believe that the only solution is suicide and thank the good lord that i spent happily the 30 years of my life.
i really, really, really appreciate you sticking around the forum, cdnuts. your advice stands to help many of us unshackle ourselves from the throes of our post finasteride syndrome.
(for many of us, at least), it’s the worst thing we’ve ever known.
with that said, the syntactic structure of the language in your posts makes you seem like a real asshole. negative reinforcement doesn’t work half as well as positive reinforcement. it’s very hard for a lot of us to, after stumbling upon a mature thread, summon the short term memory required to digest all of it, so it’s reasonable that some people will just skip to the end and miss out on some of the good stuff. and when you’re terribly depressed, it’s incredibly hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel, even when there’s a guy next to you pointing straight at it. depression loves depression. do you remember any of this?
man, i could use all sorts of aggressive and passive-aggressive put-downs here, but i don’t want to. only at this point in my recovery do i have enough circulating androgens not to feel too offended by the way you can communicate. people like this need your encouragement, and especially yours. you are in a powerful position here, please consider that.
none of this should detract from the gratitude i have for your return to the forum. i know you want to help.
Some people will complain about everything. Give them the keys to the new car, and they’ll complain about the color. I’m sorry…is my straight forward and direct nature “too much” for you? Should we all form a support group to talk about it while we sit around and hold hands singing Cumbaya? You’re certainly correct about the low circulating androgens…man…maybe I have too many…but you sound like a woman. Sorry I’m not…“nice enough”
And I do remember what it’s like to be in that foggy hell, believe me. That’s one of the reasons I’m back here. It was traumatizing. But it’s not my position, nor does the onus fall on me to repeat the same thing over and over again because someone doesn’t take the time to read. That falls squarely on them, not me. That’s the beauty of forums and the printed word. It gets stored so that ANYONE can read it on their own time. If it’s something that is important to them, they should take the time to read these threads from beginning to end, what ever they need to do to make that happen. There are no excuses. I did it when I could barely focus on the screen. It’s THEIR responsibility…not mine.
I’m not a counselor and I’m not your mother. If you want a cheerleader, I’m the wrong guy. There was no point to Costas’ post in this particular thread. If you want to whine and complain about how bad your life is and focus on the negative, go right ahead, the forum is filled with that, but this is not the thread to do it in. This is a recovery thread for people who take responsibility for their own health and don’t like playing the blame game.
Everyone could be in just as powerful of a position as soon as they learn to take FULL responsibility for themselves and stop giving their power away by blaming.
You’re not by chance… one of those guys that thinks all teams should get a trophy regardless if they win or lose…are you?
I’ve been doing a lot of searching on the interent - reading up on steroid forums. One such forum, Soul Source, looks to have posts from you. Is this a forum you follow as well? I ask because the topic was about Primordial Performance. I know you’ve said you are not interested in taking any more prohormones at this time but are you in search of an alternative supply as these product are rarely found on the market any longer?
My fear is that I get better and then regress back to where I started. From the sound of it, you’re body has been completely healed for some time with little to no set backs so that is encouraging. I’ve been learning a lot about our endocrine system and how its a closed loop with many feedback systems. Fin definately recalibrated our systems to make our bodys think we are women and not men. So I firmly believe our sytems were forced into a confused state by this drug.
The one side that concerns me the most is my semen volume. The reason I quit finasteride was the day I saw my giz come out hard like a thick hard gelly and yellow in color. Also, it hurt when I came. The pain lasted for a couple days and steadily got better over time after quiting immediately but to this day my volume is so low compared to what it was before. I’m hoping this will correct as my hormone levels continue to rebalance but I am concerned that maybe for this specific side, I may have physically scar my body permeniently. Could you offer any comments on this?
The forum is called “Swole Source” and is the carry over of most of the guys that were on the primordial performance forum. It is a pro-primordial site. I stay connected with a bunch of guys over there because we really have a forward thinking progressive group of guys on that site.
I share information there as do others. I keep my finger on the pulse of human performance via that site. There is a possibility that androhard is going to be re-released through a south Korean company. Same exact product…I’m not actively searching for any prohormones or any type of cycle as I feel that it would be playing with fire given my comeback health wise.
I like to stay informed.
In regards to your symptoms, I’ll tell you what I tell everyone else. The regimine should be followed for return to ultimate health. Regardless of symptoms, living as healthfully as possible will always be the answer.