I am on proviron 200mg/day for 9 days

Hello Chapman, is proviron available in your country in pharmacies?

Not anymore, stopped being prescribed in the uk at the end of 2018. Unfortunately had to go the ugl route.

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What is the theory behind this proviron protocol?

i think itā€™s the idea that an overabundance of DHT in the blood somehow kickstarts or shocks the androgen receptors/endocrine system.

Itā€™s not very scientific but certainly plausible

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Thereā€™s a thread on this forum called ā€œcured after 11 yearsā€ you will find all the theory there. Sorry I didnā€™t immediately post the link but I canā€™t right now.

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How are your sexual sides (if you have them)?

In pfs I have lower libido, weaker erections roughly 70% of pre fin, narrowing of my penis on the shaft, loss of tissue, also rotates to the left a bit. So id say fairly bad. On proviron its been up and down so far.

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What about feeling when you orgasm

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Very little feeling when I orgasm, I also sometimes canā€™t ejaculate during sex as my penis goes numb. But thatā€™s enough about me lol.

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Sorry if it makes you uncomfortable to ask. Can you please report if this specific symptom improves? Itā€™s been the only symptom of mine that doesnā€™t really fluctuate for 8 years. And it seems like one thatā€™s not often mentioned

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No worries

Same thing for me too i am able to fix it with dostinex.

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@Chapman - You are the man! Keep trucking, we are all here to support you. So far, everything is going how we ā€œhopedā€, even though you are struggling.

@Renegade - I think you know the correct answer to your 2 possible routes to take. The tougher option is the one that ā€œcouldā€ lead to recovery of some sort. But its the tougher one, and its not even close. The other option just isnā€™t it. If it were that easy, I dont think this website would exist. But also I wouldnt blame you for not trying it. It wonā€™t be easy. But 4 weeks at that route is probably a better test than 0.

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Balls-out it is then. Iā€™ve got almost 200 25mg tabs on hand, with another 500 tabs on the way so I donā€™t run out in the middle of the run.

I took 50mg yesterday & today since thatā€™s what pal said to try out first. Not too long after it seemed like a sense of calm, cool energy came over me, but then sort of turned into anxiety later in the day. Had trouble falling asleep last night and have had the same sort of ā€œenergyā€ since. Could just be stress from my job combined with whatever Proviron is doing to/for me.

Anyway, I was thinking of the following dosing schedule:
Week 1: 50mg/day
Week 2: 100mg/day
Week 3-7/8: 200mg/day (or until I go through ā€œthe changeā€)

I just donā€™t see the benefit of letting the Proviron crash me as bad as AIs have (I donā€™t think Pal and others are saying thatā€™s required either), so Iā€™m going to keep TT levels in the middle of the range (for me, thatā€™s already sort of crashed). Hcg 200mg/day to keep boys working and E2 in range, even if it goes to the lower end. Iā€™ll quit TRT towards the end before the Proviron.

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I think thatā€™s a good plan you got there. Thanks and good luck!

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Any news from your treatmeant?

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Iā€™m still at 100mg and unfortunately donā€™t have anything definitive to report. Iā€™ll bump up to 150mg this weekend.

So far, the only effects seemed to positive (which might be a negative) - little more oily skin, little higher body temp, better penis sensation (donā€™t last as long during sex). Nothing spectacular yet thoughā€¦was actually hoping to feel worse like Pal.

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You ever tried HCG? I see you tried clomid.

Yes, every time I do TRT.

Can you sum up all the things you tried to recover?