Final protocol 100% pfs reversal with dht therapy - lastpost

It’s called having the ability to see the good in things. Although I can’t agree with everything JQD has done in this thread, I have the ability to not be simple minded by looking at the good. The good in this situation being several diff people trying AI’s combined with diff types of testosterone in diff dosages and ways. That’s called having a scientific mind.

The funny thing is, Is that I know you want to see the results which is why you continue to read this thread and this is also why you will probable come find the thread on solve PFS . Com. But I’m sure you will use a diff name seeing thAt you are a coward and all.

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I have donated. Pvdl have you?

[Size=4]5 alpha victim: dont be a coward by participating in science, rather climb up the behind of JQD and his 100% reversal with DHT THERAPY![/size]

that just about sums it up,thats just what i was thinking…

Don’t worry. I have some ideas to use in the future to keep winny little girls who are mad because someone claims a cure off threads that are used for experimentation.

But pvdl good job man, sounds like you have contributed a lot. Thanks for all of your support.

I’m done with arguing with losers. Especially losers from Germany. For now on Im only intetested in people who have PFS symptoms and who live in the us. Seriously who gives a shit about Germany anyway.

Have a good day.

Who the fuck said you can decide what this forum should be about you little fuckin douche? Oh and by the way, for those of you who still think it’s worth doing something about this problem instead of simply waiting for studies to come out (because you’ll be waiting a long fucking time), following Chi’s method and some of cdnuts’ I got a huge nocturnal erection last night that lasted for what seemed like hours. It was so hard I couldn’t even get it point into the toilet properly to take a piss. If the idea of that happening to you doesn’t make you want to sacrifice normal food and social events for a few years and live Spartan-like then those sorts of things (hard erections that is) is something that will remain a long lost memory (as it was for me just a couple of years ago). This forum is being overrun by little roach shits like you who think self-experimenting is for fools. Nobody in their right mind is against scientific progress, but only a little whiny mousy bitch like you would whine about others trying to improve themselves now, knowing that these studies could take years. It’s because you don’t have the will or drive to do it yourself. We’re all grown men here, if anybody wants to experiment on themselves then that’s on them, they ought to know beforehand what they’re getting into. If they had good results or even great results (i.e. recovered) then by all means, they should share it with others. You keep your little whiny bitchy mouth shut you little fuckin pussy. If the mods don’t support this then this is no longer the place for me to come to find new approaches or discoveries through self experimenting. Perhaps somewhere else was mentioned for this…

[Size=4]HMMM: Lets see: FUCKED since 2003. Still FUCKED, and mad as hell because of it.

Doesnt get the simple point that money and time are wasted on homebrew to such an extend, that the studies cant find participants and the foundation is not getting the support it needs to get. His idea is to waste another 10 years of his life on homebrew. Talk about insanity. Had he supported science from the get go he might know how finasteride caused this shit.

Basically this guy will quickly fix himself via homebrew for the next 10 years and has tried to quickly fix himself for the last 10 years. He has wasted his time and money on these quick fixes. It would be hilarious if it werent so sad. [/size]

@pvdl

Dude you went through the trouble of signing onto solvepfs.com to continue harassing JQD…why? I wish I had your time and tenacity. Most of us kept our PHP handles on solvepfs.com, including JQD, but not PVDL. He decided to change his handle and make an appearance over at solvepfs and continues to follow JQD. Take a break, we will email you the final protocol once we figure it out, no harm no foul. You won PVDL, congrats. Foundation still gets our donations, JQD is gone and now broscience is being discussed somewhere else. Now let’s get back to PFS! The rest of you, let’s keep plugging away at this thing men. Be well and good health to you all.

Because JQD was continuing to spew his bullhsit on this site, despite promising to leave. Give him a taste of his own medicine. See how he likes it.

Also it was kind of funny. Read the post. Will leave his thread at solvepfs.com alone now however. No harm intended. Its his site and home base.

I will soon have to leave as well however, as I dont have too much time to spend on this forum. I know some people will love to hear that.

Listen to this little douche : “See how he likes it” (you sound like a little whiny mouse)
You were a woman before you took this pill.

I’m not fucked you stupid little roach. You are. I’m way past the fucked stage, I’m in a good good place. I’m recovering without waiting on studies, that’s the point I was trying to put into your stupid little roach brain. I’m the one now who can go and fuck bitches, you’re still sitting at home with your little shriveled up dick hoping in 15 - 20 years they’ve made a pill to reverse this so you can go get it instead of doing something more than just waiting now. I started recovering when I stopped acting the way you are now and did something about it. If I had known about this method I’m using now 10 years ago I would have recovered a long time ago, and I wouldn’t have to tell a little roach like you to fuck off for a second time.

Bizzbee you fucking nutcase.

There is no recovery protocol as of yet.

If your body is able to recover (with you giving it extra support via your healthy lifestyle) I am glad for you. Nobody said that the body cant heal over time especially if you dont drink, smoke and drug yourself with medications.

You are completley missing the argument put forth by mew and awor.

No harm done.

@PVDL
Don’t leave man, if something does come from all this experimentation trust me I’d still give you the winning recipe. I know it’s easy to get fustrated with JQD’s exuberance, but F it man, it’s got a lot of us trying things out, besides he has been very gracious and it seems like he works on this around the clock, never discourage that type of effort. I think this thing could actually be a matter of dosages, no?
Is it naive to think that a quarter of one pill got us here and that maybe a quarter of another or the creative off label use of something else might get us back to normal or better? Why not.

No one should leave, we’re all inherently good people with the same goal…we need to stay focused and fix ourselves so we can get back to doing what we do best…dropping those panties and beating up that puss. :smiling_imp:

Let’s cool it and get back to business gents.

I think you have to look at this from different a different perspective. After crashing on Fin. my hormone levels tanked. Low normal, then below normal. I was at the point where I could barely even get out of bed. I was signed up for the study but there was no way I could make it to Texas in this condition. Low energy, low cognition, just horrible. I could not focus on work tasks ect. it took allot of effort to find a doctor to prescribe me some Testo cream and eventually a shot. Did it dramatically change all my symptoms… No it did not. However it has given me more energy. At the rate I was at I would have fell off. No job, No energy, No life, No donations. Now I am guessing that TRT is an elimination criteria for this current study. I need to double check that. This is not necessarily home brew. The guys that are trying it have gone to a doctor, had blood work, and are making an effort to correct an imbalance. If you read Awor’s TRT post you will notice that he did not stop taking T injections either. Unless something has changed he continued on a low dose. If that is true he must be getting something out of that. Why are we suggesting that others not try anything if their blood work suggests otherwise?

That’s it, after reading he MULTITUDE of support for this thread, I am not leaving, not just the posters here, but there are A LOT of guys who lurk and in contact with me off of this site. The fact is this thread has become more than just about my protocol or protocols, it has become a place of hope and a change of attitude. People getting off their asses and doing something about PFS (anything)! Now PVDL tells us he isn’t going to stay, he has come here, ruined this thread, and now he isn’t going to stay? I am not leaving now, not unless I am banned. I will start posting at solvepfs, but there is just too much support here, and this guy is out of his mind.
First of all, this is now “home brew,” I was an executive of a medical company and it intersected with anti-aging medicine, I have extensive knowledge in hormones. I have been able to manipulate PFS since I got it via various protocols, for a guy 6 months into PFS, I am all muscle, nice big body, strong libido, normal sexual function, mood is now normal and good, estrogen under control. This cannot be ignored, and I cannot allow others to silence me so that they can promote their own personal agenda. This thread contains some very extensive theories that answer gaps in other theories and observations about PFS. I don’t care who gets credit, I don’t care if they are my theories, all I tried to do was help people.
I wanted to bring a change to this forum, to give people hope, to change the conversation from suicide and hopelessness to scientific progress. While I support the studies, I have already outlined why they will not produce much to help us anytime soon unfortunately (if at all). The best medical minds in the world studying PFS are using the same approaches that this little shit calls “homebrew,” he sounds like a comic book character, he constantly repeats the same shit over and over. Has it ever occurred to you dipshit, that there are varying levels of damage here, and that the minority of people are non-responsive, and I was attempting to get to the bottom of that. Despite what you may think or believe, I have reversed PFS many times with many different protocols, only to have it come back, and every time I learned something new.
I suffered for 6 months in hell, I injected and took so many different drugs that on top of PFS, I was just getting depressed about the way I was living. I had no choice but to solve this, either solve this or I would do myself in, and I solved most of the puzzle, the final piece. I had already known the final piece was DHT, but I wanted to get by without it, while I may have been able to, it was taking too much time. Your knowledge of hormones shows your complete and utter and disgusting ignorance of science and medicine, you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. This condition will be treated with hormones and anti-androgens, the PFS study on neurosteroids supports my theories, and guys here using Arimidex based on my observations have reported success.
It took me 6 months to get where I am, RQ may be a non responder, I was working on a protocol for non-responders, you sabotaged an entire scientific project single handedly, congrats! I hope it helps the PFS studies that you think will cure you with something else besides hormones. What do you think they will do? It is clearly neuro steroidal estrogen dominance, the PFS study supports that, the main way to affect neurosteroids is with androgens and anti-androgens. I believe a lot of your frustration comes from your lack of ability to understand what I am talking about.
It is obvious NO ONE wants you here you little pedantic troll, look at all the people against you, some may not agree with me, but they were interested in this thread. Bizzbee was trying his own protocol, together we all could find protocols for everyone, that was my goal, to find something for everyone. You are a dimwit living in Germany with no fucking clue how the US works, yes, we raised money to fund studies, anyone can do that, that means NOTHING. The studies will lead to the ability to better sue Merck, but it will become a class action lawsuit, everyone will say that have PFS and we will all end up with $20 or so. Where are the billions of dollars going to come from to fund research in treating PFS? Do you really think that funding research to treat a medical condition is something this foundation could ever afford to do? Even if it won a lawsuit for millions, it would not be enough, Pharmaceutical companies only work on drugs that will make money.
So far, it is a minority of people that have PFS, a small number of which do not respond properly to hormones, and a small number of that group does not respond to hormones (including DHT). I was attempting to find solutions, you have overruled any attempt at people here to fix themselves and this condition. There is a lot of scientific data here, I am sorry to tell you, but I have spoken to the best doctors in the world, and when it comes to hormones and PFS, my knowledge surpasses theirs. Even Dr Goldstein who is using the same type of protocol I had originally concluded (and thus named the thread after) is using shitty drugs. He could use Masteron for non responders, Primobolan, there are options he is unaware of.
Testosterone propionate used daily could be the difference between a responder and a non responder on Andractim. You call this “home brew,” your faith in doctors is extraordinary, I have spoken to them all. If you can find one with knowledge in hormones that surpasses me, I will personally pay you $1000 US dollars, I would immediately go to them. Dr Jacobs is one of the foremost experts in near endocrinology in the world, and I informed him of testosterone propionate, he was not aware of it before that. The fact is medicine is very much behind with respect to hormones, and this problem must be treated with hormones. You would be surprised how little the best doctors know about hormones and drugs that affect hormones. I know some very prominent physicians and they lack very basic understandings of hormones!!!
The studies may help, I doubt it, lots of studies are done, nothing comes of them, but I support them, I mean I support every avenue, but for the reasons I outlined, it is doubtful much will come from them. Not only do you call my approaches “home-brew,” you cll the approaches of doctors treating this “home brew,” you are trying to change the entire site, you have concluded this condition is incurable, irreversible. You are too much of a fucking pussy to try anything hormonal, so you have tried to sabotage everything here so that you have peace of mind. Let’s face it, Germans have never been a very brave people, you are just a pussy, who are you to tell Bizzbee that his protocol is not working? I am 6 months into PFS, whether you believe it or not, I have the whole fucking thing reversed, I reversed it zillions of times, but this time I reverted to what I did not want to, DHT replacement.
You can call my messages “walls of text,” but they are typed while I am out with people on my iPhone, you try doing this on your iPhone. While I admit my ego comes across big, that is because I did not choose to be someone who treats medical conditions, my communication skills are best suited for other areas, so my relaying of information is problematic for that reason. Those who have spoken to me on the phone feel entirely different, Recent Quitter for example. We could have continued these experiments, so what if Awor never responded to hormones? It is not true he was on them for years continuously, no one with PFS has stayed on hormones without stopping continuously for years and not recovered. In fact there have been many recovery stories from guys on hormones, someone posted a bunch of threads here of such.
Where do I stand when I have a horrible case of PFS and I have reversed it with hormones? When I read some little shit like you claiming that I am wrong. You don’t know me, who I am or what I have achieved in my life, but I promise you, it is way beyond whatever you have done. This foundation needs money to go on, and that money comes from people, and I am trying to help people get better, and for once the tone of this forum has changed and people are becoming optimistic. I am sorry Mew, but you are wrong, I have presented my theories to every doctor I know, after learning the situation, they all find them “brilliant.” Dr Jacobs said they were “intriguing,” hardly something to be ignored. It is no longer theory for me, I am operating based on them, I am responding and managing my PFS based on these theories.
No one even got their medication yet, and guys have spent money to consult with Dr Jacobs, and your selfish pathetic piece of shit german ass has sabotaged this entire project. It will continue, and if I am banned or thrown off, we will just continue on solvepfs, I would like us to continue there actually, but I believe this thread should conclude. When you disperse an entire community like this, it just falls apart, and it will. These are not “home-brew,” I don’t give a shit what Awor thinks or said or tried, he is one person out of thousands, and we don’t know how things would have turned out had he stayed on hormones. I am sorry to tell you buddy, but it probably ends here, so far the studies have coincided with what I have been saying, that is what has drawn all this attention.
We should try every angle, we should, donate to the foundation, but we should work to fix this, enough time has passed, if I can reverse this, others can. It may be more difficult for some, but that was what I was working to figure out. If you expect us all to just sit here and work our asses off to “make more money,” to donate to this foundation, you are a fucking lunatic. People without hope will find it elsewhere, after this forum shuts down, people will stop donating eventually, other forums will start, eventually other doctors will start using these hormonal protocols.
What we should be doing is focusing on using these protocols to get guys to respond and making them available to doctors to use to help patients with PFS. What we should be doing is bringing awareness to DHT and its use to help treat this condition, that DHT lowers neurosteroidal estradiol and raises neurosteroidal DHT and thus reverses the symptoms of PFS. I have been at this tirelessly for 6 months non stop, I am not some moron in “a basement,” I am a respected person, and my ego exists as I am used to being respected by others. It is true I have an ego, people who are used to being respected can get away with their behavior without correction, I know my faults, but no one is going to say anything to me in real life.
This is all about YOUR EGO, you are afraid to try hormones, you are afraid to try any kind of treatment, and it scares you that one might work. So subconsciously you have decided to get everyone to believe this is untreatable based on the posts of 1 man (who is your messiah), and this comforts you. If this condition can’t be treated, and the only way to solve it is to donate to this foundation, it makes things a lot easier for you. Well, FUCK YOU, you little obnoxious troll, I don’t care if I come here or not, I reversed this, I will be publishing my protocol, but not everyone will respond to MY protocol. So I was attempting to find out why and how to develop protocols to help people who may not respond.
Trust me, when you get on DHT and your levels get balanced, you care far less about coming here or what people here think, it all looks very silly. There are some people here I care about and worry about that I have made friends with, and I know when I first got this I was lost and clueless, my doctor had no real info for me (other than to stay on hormones and recover in time). People may agree with me or they may not, Finbasteride, you finally got to see a doctor and do something about this, it is better to try something than nothing. Someone please tell me where the fucking billions of dollars to conduct research and produce a drug to fix this is going to come from? I have news for you fucking moron, $100k and $200k is a joke, and it is likely the studies will just confirm my theories. So far everything has, one guy got genetic testing and his genes were not modified. I can put myself in the worst state of PFS with an injection and bring myself to the best state with an injection.
This condition is all neurosteroidal, it is 5ar suppression, it is logical and obvious, and the problems are all obvious, the 5AR type 3 enzyme is the cause of ocular and neurological function (and the cause of said problems in pfs sufferers). The first 2 5ar enzymes are responsible for all the traits that have become symptoms of PFS, the problem is neurosteroidal estrogen dominance, nothing has been able to resolve that but DHT that irreversibly binds to estrogen and kills it. Good luck finding a doctor who knows much about DHT, Goldstein is rather innovative, no other doctor in the US even knows about it. At first I wanted to try to find a way to recover our system, I believe I did, but it could take YEARS, so I took the easy route, DHT supplementation.
Specific testosterone propionate protocols work better with DHT, that makes everything much easier, yes I changed my mind many times. What else am I going to do? Trial and Error, if I were in this to be consistent I would have quit long ago, the fact is you are a moron, you could have this reversed most likely with this protocol and DHT. If not, I was trying to work on a way to use Masteron or Primobolan with this protocol for non-responders. However, your mythical billions of dollars to research a drug and treat this condition is coming form no where. Maybe you are ok with accepting your condition and moving on with life, but we are AMERICANS, we think differently than Germans, we are fighters, it seems the Americans on this site do think differently than guys on here in the UK and europe. We are willing to fight this thing and beat it, we don’t give up and resign ourselves to defeat in hopes that studies will somehow fix us in 10 years. I fixed myself, had I relied on your method, I would probably have killed myself, so FUCK YOU.

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         Is Awor still on test? That is rather interesting for someone claiming hormones do nothing, I would like to try to help Awor, if people want to continue this research on non responders. I have some ideas integrating body builder science, I don't see why we can't work as a group. DHT for example, if it were made into a long acting slow releasing injectable ester, it might just help non-responders, I am going to continue the experiment with Moonman and if I am banned here, I will continue it on solvepfs. I do think though, that we should all move to solvepfs since this forum will be closed down anyway. I know many have signed up there, but we should make a decision to go there if that is what Mew wants.

PerfectGent, you got that right, one thing remains, between Eden, I, Ihatepropecia, we are all on 10-15mg of testosterone propionate, ask Eden, that is what he is on as well. All 3 of us came to these conclusions on our own, so dose does matter, and we all figured out propionate was the best. Now add Andractim ontop of that, and for non responders, let’s try some modified versions of DHT.

By the way, im 5’10 180 pounds of solid muscle, I went from 140lbs 6 months ago, went up to 165 on masteron in a short period of time, lost it and then gained with suspension and no Andractim and am at 180lbs. If I stop all this stuff I go to shit, pretty good for s guy 6 months into pfs. If I miss a dose of Andractim my muscles start to shrink and I bloat and feel suicidal and it gets worse by the hour, this is real and reversal. It may not work for everyone, but something else will!

I’m all for research and the foundation, but that’s Mew’s job, im just trying to help recreate in others what I created in myself.

By the way PVDL, there are some cultural differences here, we are Americans, we don’t “give up,” and “accept” illness like this, we fight. We fight in every way possible, while the studies go on, we will fight our own battles, I suspect if you try to stop us, the fighting will get worse. I have awoken something stolen from you all here, it is called “hope.”
I am sure many others from other countries feel the same way, I wasn’t about to sit around accepting anything, I fought this thing.