I just want to post this to everyone here… I am a human being, I have suffered greatly from PFS, I found ways to reverse it with hormones, and I wanted to share my experiences and help others. I did everything I could, got Dr Jacobs to recognize the protocol, posted tirelessly here, and wanted to conduct experiments to help others. The nasty attacks have been vicious, I am the kind of person who would help anyone, and I would make friends with anyone. After reading the posts from PVDL and Luckfax(or whatever his name is), I was shattered, it hurts when you put sooo much time and effort into a project only to have it completely undermined. To question my integrity and if I even have PFS and my motives. It is really sad, I wanted to try and help non responders here with injectable DHT.
I don’t understand it, I leave here very hurt, crushed actually, I spent so much time in contact with Dr Jacobs in an attempt to get this protocol out. Ok, maybe it can’t help everyone, maybe just 1/3 of the guys here, but it is better than nothing. I wanted to try the injectable DHT to help non responders. How can human beings be so vicious towards one another on a place where I am just trying to help others. It is horrible, it is that mistreatment of people who have found a way to reverse PFS that discredits this forum.
They got their wish, I left, but you all shouldn’t stand by and allow them to get away with it, they are so convinced they are right. I am evidence they are wrong, if I stop these treatments I suffer immensely, and PFS remains between doses (if I miss a dose symptoms return). They should change the title of this place to “All ye who enter, abandon hope,” I am very close to a means to help non responders here, and I will never be able to even share the data, I can’t continue to be attacked like this. In life I am a respected person and not used to this kind of treatment.
I am sorry this place is like this, I think if it were a different place, there would be a lot of reversal stories like me, but I think obviously most are off this forum. I have had countless people contact me and tell me they would never post here, I don’t blame them.
Is there anyway PVDL and LuckFAX can come to a peaceful agreement here? I don’t see why this has to occur.
Hi depressed guy!!
Like I said, its not either or, stupid. People can trial hormonal solutions and still donate. As for “our time”, none of us are scientists so it doesn’t matter. What would you have us do instead of posting here? Ring a cowbell on the corner, wearing a sandwich board to “spread awareness” for PFS? Okay champ.
As for hormones trialed “extensively”, I seriously doubt that. I’ve spent hundreds of hours combing through posts here and have yet to read ONE hormonal protocol that paired an AI with Testosterone. CDnuts was all about hormonal and pro-hormone products. Anyway, each to their own. You’re wasting your time here. You think theres a bunch of untapped multimillionaires on this thread? And if you just rattle enough cages vast storerooms of gold and treasure will pour into the PFS foundation? Ya okay…
You cannot be certain, anymore then JQD. At least he’s willing to put his money where his mouth is. Comprende.
Justquitdut- just don’t engage them. They are miserable to begin with, trust me. Let them stew, I was like you and tried to help and offer things that have helped me, but it’s really not worth it. Please do yourself a favor, it’s your thread, keep posting what you like. I now get a little sick enjoyment out of these miserable guys thinking nothing can be done. So do your thing and ignore their posts.
Hello you stupid fuck.
TRT and HRT is a well-established, safe and popular treatment for millions of men all over North America and Europe for low T, low energy, and low sex drive.
What JQD is doing here is very little more then standard HRT. Its HRT with a twist. That’s it. This is not some half-baked witches concoction with unproven chemicals. Please continue with your asinine bullshit in another thread. We will continue trialing JQD’s protocols, here. Whether T and AI therapy works or not, I will trial it here and share my results. I’d much rather trial logical solutions then sit on my ass and let another decade pass me by. All the best,
You really don’t have a lot of options.
- Get better naturally.
- Try some things to get by and recover (hopefully) a little faster.
- Give up.
Thank you for your support tumble and Finatruth, I just wish they would stop the abuse, if they are against me fine, they don’t have to trash me, deny I have Pfs. Androstanolone has never been tried, it’s injectabke dht! Dr Goldstein is using it with success in gel form. We have to follow this through, you would think they would at minimum wait till we finish our experiments. Thanks again for your support guys, I had a very weak moment when I responded with all that. It’s been hard enough with Pfs and fighting it myself and trying to help others and then getting attacked.
Timble, your post made me laugh, when I haven’t laughed in a while, good point. What the hell else are we supposed to do, ring a cowbell!? I mean at least I am trying, it’s better than nothing, and the fact is my experiences contradict with what they say. I’m not insane here, im responding to hormones, it’s a challenge, and sometimes can be difficult, but it’s far better than the alternative (which is nothing). I have tried dht with amazing results, Ihatepropecia and I are working on getting it in injectable form. This could change lives, it stuns me they would try to stop this. Enough dht would kill of estrogen in the brain and give us benefits. We cannot just sit around and do nothing, especially when hormones are working. No they don’t work like they did before I had Pfs, but I have figured out ways to get them to work.
They think this is about my ego, im long past ego, I just want to solve this, I don’t care who gets the credit.
We have some good news, we are making progress on the injectable dht front, Braziliandude skyped with a manufacturer of one, and Ihatepropecia and I are working on another front. This injection I already know reversed every Pfs symptom I have. Androstanolone injection could change the lives of everyone here if they choose. I intend to continue conducting my experiments, things emotionally just got overwhelming for me. Based on my experience and ihatelropecia’s experience with masteron, we are very excited about Androstanolone. It would be everything in one, no need for an AI and it would kill estrogen in our brain and body and allow normal response to test. I ask that those against me just allow these experiments to continue. We still support the foundation, but we are attempting to create better treatments for Pfs than what are currently available.
I mean no one harm, I just want to solve this for everyone, and my responses to these protocols can help others.
The experiment with Moonman will continue with masteron and with Dannyfc if he still wants to. Moonman is definitely doing it, we will report progress after.
Ok, so I have a solution to our war here, there is another forum called solvepfs.com, everyone there is devoted to solving Pfs with hormone protocols. We could migrate to that forum to continue these experiments and discussions and leave the others behind here. That way we can discuss and experiment on solvepfs.com, and the guys who are against us will not be disturbed nor disturb us. Solvepfs.com is devoted to using hormones and drugs to fix this. What do you guys think? Then everyone is happy, people here and go on discussing what they want, and we can continue our goals.
Tell me your thoughts, it is Eden’s site, he is a nice guy, we have had our differences, but never any disputes. I would hate to have our movement leave here, but I can’t handle the stress of being attacked all the time. It’s hard enough dealing with Pfs and managing hormones, tell me your thoughts guys.
Also want to update you guys, I’m giving Andractim another shot, while we wait to acquire androstanolone, It will take about 3 weeks to really judge if it will consistently work. Also, I made a decision to switch from suspension to propionate. I prefer the stable test levels, suspension was amazing! It just made me sad a lot as my test dropped, I never get sad. So it may be good for some guys and prop better for others. I seemed to be the most stable and best on prop, I added Andractim to see how it preforms on prop, we shall see. Waiting on Moonman to get masteron and that experiment will be conducted.
Preliminary results from Andractim are impressive as in killing estrogen, it has made my muscles hard, too soon to judge libido and other effects. Most import is estrogen, havjng injected 20mg of test prop ontop of 10mg of suspension, controlling estrogen should be impossible. I have not needed an AI. The question is over the next week, will my own dht shut down (or suppress a lot) and this Andractim be my only dht, if so, will it be enough? We shall see, it is possible that dht is the only thing strong enough to break the neuroestrogen dominant cycle by killing estrogen in the brain.
Originally I hypothesized that exogenous dht was counter productive to recovery, while I have not taken this to try to recover (but to control symptoms) it is an interesting question. JN, Tow(forget the rest of his name), CDNuts, all used forms of dht before they recovered. I already know dht reverses Pfs symptoms (while on test), but could it induce actual recovery? I don’t know, stabalization of symptoms in an efficient manner is my goal, recovery is a luxury. In my past experiences with dht in various forms, it took about 3 weeks for my system to recognize it as dht and my libido to increase.
I take a big risk of shutting down my dht and Having to wait a month to restart, but, it’s worth noting that’s what CDnuts was doing. There may be a factor here I have missed, dht breaking the neuroestrogen dominant cycle. I have always known dht could reverse Pfs, but I never felt the gel was strong enough or could be strong enough. I didn’t give it a long enough try. Hopefully I won’t be let down this time. I have been searching for estrogen control and as you all know have been looking for androstanolone injections, this is androstanolone in the form of a topical gel.
This could be the final piece, nothing new, Goldstein uses this, I have always believed we would require an injection. I pray this is enough, Ihatepropecia told me it shut him down and wasn’t enough. Not sure of the doses of test he was on, im keeping it low. One thing is for sure, it is killing off estrogen, however, first time I took proviron it took 1 pill and I was amazed, it was not long before my dht was shut down and I required 24 proviron pills a day (like JN). However, I was on a high dose of test enanthate back then, now I’m using test prop, will update more. Continuing course to get this made in injectable form, already have someone locally who agreed to do it.
Ironic, this thread started out with dht, and then changed to dht induction, I wanted to change the name of the thread, and it may end with dht! Whatever your opinion of me, this thread when finished is going to be a manual for someone who gets Pfs. I sure wish I had this to read when pfs first hit me. So this means that the missing link seems to be DHT, it’s evolving that way, but for guys who do not respond, they might require it in injection form. I’m not getting my hopes up, this shit will prob shut down my endogenous dht and not be enough to support test, we shall see. Dht does kill estrogen, and my fucking problem is estrogen.
It is curious why Goldstein recommends a small dose, over the next couple weeks I’ll conduct experiments, with varying doses (if required). So guys going on test prop protocol, it’s my hope that the estrogen problem will be solved with this gel. I have some hope as de goldstein did tell me he has had success with this gel the one time I spoke to him. This time im not optimistic, I expect this to not be strong enough for dht replacement, but I hope it is. Every time I use dht it just makes me want a dht injectable, the fact that one doesn’t exist explains why this condition has been so difficult to treat. This isn’t even legal in the us, we shall see!
Exactly. The worst TRT will do is cause shutdown. A restart can be done with Novladex/Clomid to get the user back to baseline. Which is limpdick central anyway. So doesn’t really matter.
I’m here for you dude. So are other guys on this thread. Whether your shit works or falls on its face, you’re pouring your guts and mind out into this, and I respect you for that. And will continue to trial this stuff.
We’re all going through this together, and the worst possible thing is to attack each other for an honest and sincere effort to remedy this.
Thanks tumble, means a lot, Yea man, I don’t get these guys, there have already been reports on here of guys improving with arimidex off of my principals and theories. I have no evil intent, and im conducting experiments to confirm or deny once and for all long unknown questions. They say I’m narcissistic, I don’t mean to come off that way. I really don’t care who gets credit, im an anonymous name on a forum. I have extensive knowledge in pharmacology and medicine and hormones, I thought I could share what I know. Based on one guy not responding in one week they trash me. Took me 6 months to get where I am, and RQ is going on dht gel next. That was his plan if this didn’t pan out, and that was the plan, dht. I’m not in communication with RQ currently, however, if the gel fails him, im working on getting it in injection form.
I am thus far very impressed with the gel as in fighting estrogen, I just hope my concerns are not realized. It seems that this will require the propionate protocol as you want to keep estrogen low. Tumble, if you have never crashed before, you should respond very well to this protocol. If not, the next step is dht. I’m not sure why these guys are so against hormones, most pfs cases are not on here, and they have been treated with pfs. I had a long talk with an hrt doctor friend of mine last night, that’s what for me all riled up. He told me he has seen this phenomenon many times, he doesn’t call it “pfs,” but he said they recover in time with hormones. Actually, he was intrigued with pfs since he never heard the term.
He told me that this occurs, he had friends who are also hrt doctors, but they do not call it pfs. So it was a wake up call to me with the forum, that all these guys get pfs and never know it, go to an hrt doctor and recover. There are some im sure who require dht, he wasn’t familiar with any such cases as he said in time they all come around (sometimes it takes years). I asked him if he would consider being a pfs doctor on this forum, but he told me he would check out the forum and think about it. He was averted to the idea due to legality and liability in treating guys remotely.
So let’s see how Andractim plays out, I really hope it’s enough, but I am setting course on acquiring the injection. This is something for you guys to consider adding to your protocol, Andractim. I was originally against dht due to its lack of availability, but if the gel works and is strong enough it changes the equation. Thanks for your support tumble, just trying to help people here. Like you said, what would they have us do, stand on a corner ringing a cow bell? Lol, true though, what im doing is trying to help people, and the data will be valuable to researchers either way.
I will bring the cowbell tomorrow. We can ring it together! HEAR YE! HEAR YE! ALL HEAR THIS. I AM THE NEW TOWN CRYER AND FIN KILLED MY DICK. HEAR YE HEAR YE
LOL! You crack me up man!
I feel there is some merit to JQD’s views insofar as they relate to the crippling effects of (unopposed?) estrogen on our population, both sexually and mentally.
I would like to thank him for putting me on to Arimidex.
I can now recognize and feel the effects of excess estrogen in my body.
My T is low-normal (more low than normal!) but with LOW DOSE arimidex taken as needed, I have been able to have better sex (as opposed to sexual failures) with my partner. We were trying to conceive unsuccessfully. My semen parameters were low. [BTW, in light of THIS RECENT STUDY, we should all be getting our semen tested]. Thankfully, they improved substantially on the arimidex and now my wife is pregnant.
I can also feel the effects of increased T on my voice and beard.
Unfortunately, libido is still low. Emotions still blunted. The mechanics of sex have improved but there seems to be a missing element of “octane” that made past sexual thoughts and the act of sex so pleasurable. It’s quite possible that the addition of T (in some form) would help me to feel those pre-pfs sensations again. I’m not ready to take T at this stage so I cant replicate JQDs alleged success on his protocol(s). But unlike many others, I wouldnt piss all over him for my own failing of not trying it out.
So overall, thanks JQD.
[Size=4][Finally, I would suggest to JQD that you post only when you have a material update and stop responding to every negative post. Your message gets diluted and lost in the skirmishes. Then again, this is your thread and we are just visitors.] [/size]
In a few month tumbleweeds (the guy who can spend 1 dollar twice!, both on homebrew and scientific research), will have failed on JQD protocols. But you wont hear from him. He will silently crawl back in his sand hole.
Tumbleweeds must be one of the most gullible cheer leaders on this thread. Like a sheep, so desperate that he will do just about anything JQD tells him.
I have refuted his defence of home-brew thouroughly, and exposed his hero JQD. But in his desperation he will continue to pray on his altar; just like Messiah JQD likes it.
Yesterday JQD promised us he would leave. Today he has already posted walls of texts. He cant help himself. A truly sick person.