Not one patient of his has come on here and claimed that he has had significant improvements with JQD theories. On the contrary, RecentQuitter admitted that the protocol he was testing did not work.
Dont let the mammoth texts of JQD confuse you. He is a manipulative guy who basically demands your admiration. If you ask common sense questions, he gets defensive and upset. Its not the questionaire but JQD anti-scientific attitude and delusions of grandeur which are the problem.
If I would be MEW I would make certain changes to this forum:
A quick summary of common sense options (like I have done) and a warning against home brew. A overview of things that have been tried and failed. Some of this could be done in a FAQ format.
A display besides the account of a member that shows if the member is a monthly donator or not. This would require a close link between the foundation and this site.
I would get rid of blood tests and any links to doctors who cant prove that they have had success with patients. At least I would make it clear that these doctors have not proven to have any success with their patients.
I would have a section of current studies that are underway and the number of participants that are still needed. This section would include the contact details for anyone that wants to particpate.
Anyway these are just some suggestions. For members I would advice to donate monthly and to work on increasing ones income and thus the ability to donate larger sums.
Yes letâs get rid of recoveries since they are all imaginary. Letâs get rid of all the treatment and protocol subforums since no one has received any benefit from them. Letâs get rid of blood work, doctors, etc. After all that, there would be nothing left except member stories and side effect forums which can be summarized in one page. Theres no point in having a member stories only forum so letâs just take down the entire forum
Never said that the recoveries are imaginary. Its just not clear why they recoverd.
As I said I dont think that the home brew insanity carousel can be stopped. However I would go out of my way to encourage the donation and study route via the suggestions posted above. I would leave the forum in place with the alterations listed above. If people want to home brew, so be it. They can run in circles while people like awor work towards a cure.
He will come back when there is a [Size=4]âHUGE OUTCRY FOR ME TO COME HEREâ[/size].
He wants to be revered; this forum MUST! fullfill his desire to be a Messiah like figure. This is truly sick.
Of course his protocol is not perfected yet. After all, the continious change of protocol allows him to continue with this game.
And now he is the poor baby that has been attacked by common sense questions. Messiahs dont have to answer those, do they?
Anyone who cant see through this charade has been brainwashed by JQD.
I think I have made my point clear today. JQD will be back very shortly, as he is addicted to this attention. He might even play this game in many different forums on the web. Pretending to suffer from the same illness as the forum members and playing this sick game. I am not saying he is, just throwing it out there as a possiblilty. Because his posts clearly show that he is mentally unstable.
I feel it is my duty to warn people, who might wreck their health even further.
I have a local friend who has agreed to compound Androstanolone powder into an injectable for me, so looks like I will have this down the road. Sometime in the future I will update here, I encourage you all to look for a compound pharmacy to compound Androstanolone into an injectable for you, and try it with testosterone (will not work without it).
I am off now
This is really a sad post, and this is why I am leaving, guys who have reversed this in the US and recovered with hormones have been treated like this by guys in backward countries. I hope this guy PVDL gets better somehow and wish him the best, I am going to start enjoying life again. I tried my best to help guys here, but there 2 doctors, Dr Jacobs, and Dr Goldstein use hormones to help people, according to PVDL they are frauds.
This is how the forum generally treats guys who improve with hormones, it comes out of ignorance, these guys live in countries that donât have access to modern HRT medicine. PVDL canât see Dr Goldstein or Dr Jacobs, so he trashes their methods and anyone else who uses similar methods. As I leave, this is just a very sad post, and it is why I cannot come here, there is no hell but what we create for ourselves. PVDL and others have created their own hell right here, and I choose to live life now that I have got to the point I have got to. Of course he states I donât really have PFS, thatâs what they do.
Good luck all
To leave off, my protocol that I am using with success now is Test suspension 10mg every other day, DHEA 50mg on the day I donât inject and arimidex 1mg as needed every day (about 2 to 4mg at minimum). I seem to be doing good on this and will post in the future, PFS for the most part is reversed.
I consider myself 90% reversed on this protocol, meaning 90% of PFS symptoms are reversed. Mood had stabilized pretty well, but not healthy for me to be here arguing with bitter and miserable people like PVDL, so that is why I am moving on. I know people will read this thread in the future, since this may be my last post, this is the protocol I left off on.
A remedy has already been found by himself, Dr. Jacobs and Dr. Goldstein. There are thousands of US guys that have been cured by this hormonal remedy, unbeknownst to the foundation and harvard, who are unneccessarily still looking for a cure. According to JQD the reason that there are so many more Europeans on this site than Americans (which is actually not true, its the other way around as proven by nopecia above), is that Europeans are backwards and medival. They dont have âanti aging doctorsâ.
All of this is a load of bullshit. I normally am not very active on this forum, but this JQD guy deserves attention.
Have you guys noticed his strategy? He ignores the fact that Dr Jacobs and Dr Goldstein are SUCCESSFULLY treating numerous PFS cases with hormones, but he doesnât respond to that. They are âtreating,â which means reversing the symptoms of PFS, but PVDL keeps using the word âcure.â Actually Harvard does know about their treatments PVDL, Dr Jacobs has lectured at Harvard, there is no cure for PVDL, but there are treatments, Dr Jacobs and Dr Goldstein are using. Not a cure, treatments like I myself am on and thus am living a normal life and not a miserable woman such as yourself
You keep bringing up âHarvard,â anyone can fund a study at Harvard, so what? Harvard DOES know about PFS treatments, simply because Dr Jacobs went to Harvard and is treating PFS with hormones Are you saying that the worldâs foremost expert in neuroendocrinology is wrong? Are you saying Dr Goldstein is using treatments that donât work? If so why does this site promote them?? I think you donât want people to get better, you just want to sit home and prevent people from going to doctors to get better so that you can have more studies for your lawsuits. News Flash for you buddy, this will end up being a class action lawsuit and everyone will get about $5k at the most, not sure if you guys know that, thatâs how these play out.
You are right, they are unknown to the foundation, most guys in the US go to anti-aging doctors and get treated, or Dr Jacobs and Dr Goldstein, they have nothing to do with this crazy forum. Every single guy I have been contacted by refuses to post here due to crazy people like yourself. You deny there are treatments for PFS when Dr Jacobs and Dr Goldstein specifically told me only a âFractionâ of PFS cases are on this forum. Dr Goldstein has an elaborate treatment, not as good as my protocol, but the same concepts, and he is treating guys with success. You just canât go to him because you live in Germany so you are trying to discredit him.
It is CLEAR the PFS foundation is NOT looking for a cure for this or a treatment, that is very clear, I think the agenda is more about establishing evidence to sue Merck. I have seen nothing about cures or treatments, Dr Goldstein is treating this, Dr Jacobs is treating it, and countless HRT doctors in the US are treating it, but this place is not about a cure or a treatment, believing that is delusional. The Majority of PFS cases are in the US and there are thousands and they are not on this forum, they are being treated by HRT doctors, or Goldstein or Jacobs, end of discussion.
There is zero evidence to suggest that Goldstein or Jacobs have had any significant success with their PFS patients. You know it, I know it and the foundation knows it.
OF COURSE! the foundation is now just trying to establish HOW finasteride caused PFS. You cant jump to a cure if you dont know how finasteride caused PFS.
Has anybody had any success with JQDs protocol? No.
Have a significant number of people tried hormonal remedies? Yes, including awor.
Is there a vast number of PFS patients that have perfect bloodwork? Yes.
Has RecentQuitter just last week reported that JQD protocol didnt work? Yes.
Has JQD just propagated the theory that there are more Europeans than Americans visiting this forum? Yes. Is this true? No.
Has JQD just propagated that thousands of PFS patients are already been treated successfully unbeknownst to the foundation? Yes.
Do you think he is suffering from some kind of mental illness? I sure hope you do.
Hey JustDoneCoke, why donât you fuck off forever like youâve said you would about fifty times now?
It says something about the lack of moderation on this forum that this narcissistic anti-aging sales rep who has never had PFS to begin with - a fairly important fact that the very few absolute fuckwits who hang on his every word seem to overlook - is allowed to chalk up about 1000 walls of text of absolute shite in under six months here.
Now someone who has a bit of intelligence and knowledge of this condition has actually bothered to take some time to systematically hand you our arse on a plate, thanks pvdl, it might be a good idea to fuck off back to your Florida hormones shop and sell drugs to stupid Fox News watching cunts, and be thankful there is a place with people stupid enough to keep you in a job.
Pvdl- I have a few questions for you. If I told you 2 years ago my penis was almost completely numb and now I have full sensitivity back would you believe me? If I told you I was dizzy for 2 years and now I am not woukd you believe me? If I told you I was bloated for 2 years but now I am not would you belive me? It I told you for 2+ years I barely had erotic and sexual thoughts after my crash and now I have it all the time would you believe that? Would you believe any of what I am saying or not?
WOW! Real classy, LUCKFUCK, and the irony is YOU probably don't have PFS, probably just low T, but since your country is so backward you would never know. I don't sell hormones or work for a hormone business you fucking dimwit, never have, never did. I was an executive of a medical company that did not sell hormones or prescribe them. Dr Jacobs certainly found my theories to have merit. He is even using my protocol, this forum is where guys go who are too afraid to go on PFS treatments. When I brought up this forum to Dr Jacobs he kind of dismissed it as having only a "fraction" of the PFS cases on it. Mostly very poor guys in the UK (like Luckfax) who are just extremely uneducated.
When someone actually does get treated by a doctor in the US and recovers from PFS or reverses the symptoms, guys like this claim that said guy never even had PFS to begin with. This forum is really sad, I suffered horribly from PFS, and the road to reversing it was a nightmare. I really genuinely wanted to share what I experienced and help people, and if people didn't responded I wanted to perfect hormonal treatments for this condition. There are only 2 doctors treating this condition in the world, Dr Jacobs is one of the world's foremost experts in neuroendocrinology, and he has treated countless guys with this condition.
The guys here are guys who are afraid of hormones, or for some reason believe treating this condition doesn't work. They think that a cure occurs rather than a treatment which takes time. It took me 6 months to get to where I am, only to be treated like this and be told I never even had PFS to begin with. By some plebeian in the UK living a century behind us, to them hormones are scary, just like fire is scary to animals. It is very sad, luck fax, since the best minds in the world treating this are using hormones, you better get used to being impotent for the rest of your life buddy.
Enjoy your hell that you have created for yourself, I can't imagine ANYONE would come and post here their improvements after the way I was treated. NOW I understand what Dr Jacobs meant when he emphasized that this forum was only "A fraction" of the PFS cases. Guys like you have made this place a joke, and it is very sad, I had genuine motives, no one knows my name, there is no credibility I could get for myself, I never published who I was. Like guys before me I was treated like shit, accused of never having PFS, insulted, attacked etc.. I will continue to work with the guys I am in contact with away from this forum.
I wish you guys the best of luck, it goes to show how potent estrogen is, it gives us a better understanding of why women are so nasty during their periods. If you observe the nasty behavior here, it mirrors PMS symptoms in women which further validates the euro estrogen dominance theory. We could have all worked together, my attempts to perfect the protocols being used by Dr Jacobs and Dr Goldstein, but that is no longer possible. I wonder what Luckfax wants to go on in this forum, what he wants to be discussed? The lack of US guys on hormones here is very telling, I can recall others being mistreated like I have been, accused of never having PFS to begin with.
I am sorry to you guys who have followed me, there is enough here to help you, but I advise you guys to stay away from here. People like this guy luck fax and PDVL are just living in hell, I suppose they can't help it. They don't have access to modern medicine, and Luckfax seems to think I work for some hormone company, which goes to show he has read nothing. I am the first guy who has come here and got Dr Jacobs to try my protocol that worked for me on others, he was intrigued with my theories, even that wasn't enough for the guys here. Another story to be buried in this forum filled with vitriol and hatred and venom, it is a sad place.
Finatruth, no because he and people like Luckfax would say you never had PFS to begin with, they have created a situation where no one can recover. They claim the doctors treating this are having no success because none of their success stories post here, we know Tom has posted here and recovered attributing it to Dr Goldstein. None of the other people would ever post here in their right mind, look how I was treated. This is a sad and dark place, success stories are not stupid like me, they don't waste their time and money helping a bunch of douche bags only to be mistreated.
Feel free to contact me for my contact info Finatruth, I will continue to help people off the forum, let these guys live in their own hell, they seem to think they know more than the best doctors treating this condition. Finatruth, I am in contact with several guys I have met on here who are using hormones and we are sharing protocols with success, ihatepropecia is the only one who posts here, the others refuse.
I am also in contact with MCI and Moonman, but I think we all are going to just leave here, this place makes you worse when you get attacked by plebeians in the UK or Germany that are nothing above thugs. They constantly point to studies done by Harvard and then ignore that fact that a doctor from Harvard is successfully treating many people. Since those successfully treated people don't post here, that they use as evidence that these people have not been treated. It is a big joke, there should be 10s of thousands of people in the US with PFS and none are posting here, easy answer, they are all being treated as we have hormonal treatments here.
I will be at the forum solvepfs.com if anyone wants to find me, I support everything the foundation is doing, I just wish to help others who want to be helped. So anyone who wants to reach me, that is where I will be posting at. Posting here has sucked the life out of me, these past months trying help others here. In retrospect it was a big mistake as it drained me, I had hoped we could work together, I wanted to duplicate my success in others. Apparently Dr Jacobs and Dr Goldstein are already doing that from what I could see. I didnât think about how they have so many patients off this forum and that only a fraction of pfs cases are here. This forum is clearly for guys who do not believe in Dr Goldstein or Dr Jacobsâ methods, it is a place people go to discuss natural and alternative methods, and that is fine if you donât want to recover.
PVDL destroyed my experiments, he kept demanding people come forward before anyone even got their medication, Lukas and SG havenât even got their medication, after 1 week of treatment PVDL declared it doesnât work and sabotaged everything, think about it. Coming here will destroy you, it takes months to improve from treatments, not 1 week, and you have to try different treatments. This is why guys donât come here who improve, it is a sad place here. This place is where you go when you are ready to abandon all hope, that is just the way it is. Lots of guys doing fine with PFS (like me) and get attacked here till we leave, same thing happened to JN.
Rather than engaging in online debates with each other, you should just create another propecia support website to address points 1 and 4. It doesnt have to be anything complicated. I would love to see some organization regarding the clinical studies. The amount of energy and time you put forth into debating with jqd can be more efficiently used in creating a site or clinical study spreadsheet
BTW you fuck wads PVDL and Luckfax, when Harvard finishes their studies, you think they are going to discredit Dr Goldstein and Dr Jacobsâ work!?!?! You fucking morons, they are only going to confirm this condition exists and tell people to go to the only 2 doctors treating it! Who do you think they are going to go to for data on how to treat this? The worldâs foremost expert in neuroendocrinology treating PFS with hormones and the only other Dr with a PFS program (Dr Goldstein) using hormones. What else will they do? You think they are going to come up with some magical pill that Dr Jacobs or Dr Goldstein hasnât thought of? You idiots are fucking morons, keep your hopes up, they are in vain, all the studies will do is confirm this exists, and they will just tell people to go to the doctors already treating it, that is how medicine works. They arenât going to discredit the work of two prominent physicians treating PFS, KEEP DREAMING! Here I am building on their work with better drugs, and I get attacked. These delusional fucks thing Harvard studies are somehow going to discredit all the work Dr Goldstein and Jacobs has done and find a pill to fix PFS lol. Thatâs not happening morons, medicine works together, they will refer patients to the doctors treating it, end of story. Meanwhile you have attacked and ruined my experiments using Dr Jacobs to try and find better protocols to reproduce my results in others. No one has even ever tried injectable DHT, I canât believe this place.
Youre a fucking broken record. People tired to read your fucking recovery story. Youre one of the lucky guy who is recovering with doing nothing. Accept it already, get this into your thick head. Iâve met with dozens of guys who have pfs for 2+ years and theyre still fucked as their first days. Your recovery story isnt encouraging but annoying. You dont advice any recovery tips because you cant. You dont have any solution. Youre just saying âwaitâ, people are waiting for even 9 fucking years!
