Dude, refer to your very first post in this thread. You said you’d found the way to reverse pfs and wouldn’t be returning to forum as you were off to enjoy life and make up for the 6 months you lost. 85 pages later here we are.
You are not in a position to diagnose pfs because pfs doesn’t have a medical diagnosis. My Testosterone is over 600. And don’t be so bloody arrogant to dismiss other people’s contribution to the forum.
What’s your bio available test? When I went to my anti aging doctor my test was 600 and he told me I must feel like SHIT, and I did, and he put me on hormones and I felt great. After PFS hit he told me not to worry, he has seen it before, he told me not to read internet forums, he said he had plenty of patients who had these symptoms and to stay on hormones and I would get better. He told me not to read online forums. I was getting better, and I am getting better, I came here and read depressing stories and posts from guys like you and I started feeling like shit and wanting to help. I just described what is going on here and now I can move on, this is not about PFS, PFS exists, it is a real condition, but this is about the lack of anti-aging medical care in the UK and europe. My Anti-aging doctor says testosterone should be at 1200. Hormones are not something you go on and respond to in 1 day or 1 month.
Now I am taking off for real
The forum shouldn’t suffer for your idiocy, so I will return at some point in the future, and update guys here for the sake of everyone, but I have said my peace and it is how I feel. Anyone who wants to stay in contact with me PM me, but clearly this Forum has spoken, it is not where you go to get better, it is where you go to get worse and be attacked. There aren’t any guys from the US here, they are all recovering on hormones. The theme of this forum is that you cannot recover with hormones, and it is filled with stories of the misuse of hormones, and those stories are then touted as evidence that one cannot recover. Then guys go on hormones for 1 day and don’t respond in a week and want to kill themselves. Yes this is a real condition and it is horrible, but most guys recover with hormones. I have spent all my time here trying to convince guys to go on hormones, it is a waste of time. I need to move on with my life, I am like the only guy in the US here!!! There is a reason for that! Pretty soon MCI will stop coming here too now that he is on test. Yea this condition is real and it sucks, but you do recover from it. The fact is this forum lacks US guys on HRT, there were a few, but they are no longer here, aside from that there aren’t any. Usually they got ostracized or banned. Mathematics proves my point, most users of Finasteride are in the US, just like most users of HRT are in the US. There is no point in coming here, you come here to be told by guys in the UK or europe that hormones don’t work and you can’t recover and to donate to fund studies, none of this makes any sense. I have been arguing with some douche bag in Germany that thinks his testosterone is good because it is 600, in the US an anti-aging doctor would consider that shit. I am sorry, my friends here please PM me and I will give you my contact info, but I came to a realization tonight that is really one that is going to change my life for the better. Yes, I have PFS, but I am recovering, had I never found this forum, I would be like the other 99% of guys with PFS in the US on hormones. What’s worse the guys here are just nasty and negative and have BS dogma that doesn’t even match reality.
But I’m an idiot so what do I know 
There are two options we as a group of PFS patients have.
Pool our resources via the foundation and let them fund studies. This method is extremly efficient as it combines economic common sense with the scientific method. Basically we pay real scientists with years of experience and modern equipment to diagnose the problem. Also it enhances our reputation as we are acting in a logical and unified manner.
Divert resources by investing in home-brew methods invented by arm chair scientists, who suffer from delusions of grandeur. This method will distract attention away from method number 1), and decrease participation rates at the studies as well as donation amounts to the foundation. Also it will discredit us as a community, as the home brew methods are laughable to any serious scientists. It will make us appear like nut cases.
Any new member who comes here will immediatly invest large sums in these methods only to come to the same obvious conclusion: Only real science can fix this issue. If instead this conclusion would be clearly presented by members of this forum, he would have invested his time and money more wisely (donations, studies).
So contrary to popular believe JQD is actually very damaging to real progress.
That’s only 1k guys, and 630 are in the US??? There should be THOUSANDS of cases in the US, and there are, they are all going to anti-aging doctors, this is bullshit. The US is filled with guys on all kinds of pharmaceuticals, the ratio should be mostly US, and there should be 10k guys from the US there, but there aren’t, they are all seeing anti-aging doctors and recovering, this is BULLSHIT, this place is a SCAM. You come here and are told you can’t get better because some guys who didn’t know what they were doing went on and off and on and off hormones and they didn’t work. Where are the thousands and thousands of guys in the US with this condition? They are all on hormones like me recovering, and like Praying To Heal when they come here they get attacked and banned. This place makes you worse! I am recovering and haven’t been living life because I have been arguing with guys on here who have low T or just symptoms that would recover in time on HRT.
Anyone knows there should be 10k guys here from the US, but because of HRT here, there aren’t, and it won’t be long before MCI stops coming here, I saved his life.
Or option 3, they go to an anti aging doctor like I did, Praying to Heal did, MCI did, and eventually get attacked and banned, the ratio on this forum is off and doesn’t make sense. Either this condition is EXTREMELY rare, or the majority of cases for some reason strike guys in the UK and europe, or the majority of the cases recover on hormones and are not on this forum (like Dr Jacobs and Goldstein told me). You can continue in your delusional BS, but I am out. I am one of the guys in the US who was on hormones and started to recover and am recovering. This forum makes you think you are worse than you are, the lack of US guys here says a lot, 630 is NOTHING, and where are all this guys now? Why aren’t they posting? That is nothing, we are the richest country in the world, the most vain country in the world. There are posters and magazine everywhere about HRT, most guys are just on HRT and recover, end of story. Waste of my time
pfsfoundation.org/news/natio … e-rise-26/
Site popularity by nation (top 50 of 147)
1: USA
2: United Kingdom
3: Germany
Also run the site through traffic analysis websites like Alexa, which says the vast majority of traffic is from USA.
There is not a lack of US guys on this forum. Porportionally it is as would be expected. You said that we have mainly european members. This was a obvious lie and you have been caught with your pants down.
So now you change the tune, manipulate your orginal thesis, as would be expected from someone who is mentally unstable. Now the NUMBER of members is to small, so there must be a cure. Obviously this makes no sense whasoever:
So your statements still make zero sense to anybody with an ounce of sense.
People should ignore this thread and get back to reality.
Also lest we forget only suicides attributed to PFS that we know of are from USA. Why didn’t those guys just go to an anti-ageing doctor and get cured?
It’s absurd blaming Europe for this forum when Propecia is an American drug through and through.
If I run propeciahelp.com through Alexa, it says that 50.1% of the visitors are located in the US. In Europe we have 742,5 million inhabitants. The U.S. only has 316.1 million inhabitants.
So there are actually much more visitors per inhabitant in the US then in Europe.
JQD has no qualms to make the facts fit his theory and will blatanly lie to this forum. That should tell you something about his credibility. Anyone pumping hormones in their system based on JQD recommendation is off the deep end.
Lol only 630 people on here in a country that is the richest in the world, the most drugged up, with a population of over 300mil people. Where are the 10s of thousands of Americans!!! Could it be they all like me and MCI went on hormones!?! Stopped coming here?? In the USA hormone replacement therapy is standard medicine, you guys are in the dark ages!!! If you told an American hormones were dangerous they would look at you funny. This is a big scam, dr Goldstein and Jacobs are right, only a fraction of Pfs cases are on here. Most are being treated by Hrt doctors and don’t even know they have Pfs and recover slowly over months and years. You are delusional if you expect anyone to buy your 630 Americans with only a handful of them even coming here, that is meaningless. They all like me and MCI went to an anti aging doctor and got better and like recent quitter went to dr Goldstein on hormones and got better. Hey caveman in Germany, I know you are behind the times but hormones take months and years to recover conditions. To the other posters, I will come back sometime in the future and update you. My protocol is suspension 10mg every other day with arimidex as needed and DHEA 50mg on the days that I don’t inject.
Time to move on now, you guys got your wish. You can go back to perpetrating your anti hormone lies.
I know it doesnt make sense to you. Thats because you are insane and suffering from delusions of grandeur.
We have over 3000 members. Even more people are probably lurkers, who have not registered. Then there are those who do not know that finasteride lowered their sexual function. Then there are guys who take finasteride who might crash when they come off it.
The facts are simple:
Hi to my friends following my posts, I have recovered to a point that it is time to move on. I have realized that people here are mostly uneducated in europe or the UK where they do not have proper hormonal medical care. This forum is a place where people attack those who are recovering with treatments from Dr Jacobs or Dr Goldstein (and yet it advertises them on the site). Many of the members like PDVL are just simply uneducated, he doesn’t make much sense. He quotes Harvard doing a study to discredit me, and claims they don’t know about my treatment, there are all sorts of hormonal treatments and protocols. I have concluded that most US PFS sufferers are already getting treatment by anti-aging doctors or by doctors like Dr Jacobs (like me) or Dr Goldstein (who use hormones to treat pfs).
Staying here is a waste of time, like all the other Americans who get treatment and start recovering, I am going to move on, I will check my PM messages from time to time. I just have to think about my own health, there are some very angry and bitter people on here who want to drag others into their own personal hell, and I will not be taken there any longer. I advise anyone in the US with PFS to seek care under Dr Jacobs or Dr Goldstein, I recommend Dr Goldstein, he seems to have all bases covered (using hormones). Don’t listen to the people here or read their nonsense, both Doctors told me they have treated successfully many PFS sufferers with hormones.
If you cannot see either doctor, I recommend you seek out an anti-aging doctor and explain your situation, listen to what they say and stay on hormones and in time you will recover. I have been on hormones for 6 months and gradually got better, even if you don’t follow a special protocol, simply being on hormones you will recover. Don’t come here or read the posts, there is a lot of hormone misuse here, going on, going off, going on, going off. As for Dannyfc, if you wish for me to help you, PM me and I will give you my contact info and help you via email. I promised to help you, I will keep my promise, so PM me if interested.
I will try to come back and post some updates in the future, but it is time to move on, I need to date again and enjoy life, this place has dragged me down. I have been getting better and better, and all I read are nasty posts telling me how I can’t be getting better because hormones don’t work, and yet the site has doctors on it who use only hormones to treat PFS. So if you hear something negative over and over, you will start to convince yourself it is true. This site is filled with bullying, and abuse, and it is unhealthy, you just need to go on hormones, stay on hormones, and move on with your life.
Dr Goldstein has a very good approach, you won’t recover from this in 1 week, or in 1 month, if you stay on hormones you WILL recover, regardless of what these guys say. I spoke to a very prominent HRT doctor this week who told me he had dozens of patients with these symptoms, and they often take months or sometimes years to recover, but they gradually recover. You just have to stay on a hormonal protocol, it doesn’t have to be a special one to recover. I devised special ones based on my extensive knowledge in hormones to speed up recovery, you can read my work. I found Testosterone Suspension works best at 10mg every other day, and DHEA 50mg taken the day you don’t inject.
Take Arimidex as needed, let your body recover, give it time and patience, stay away from stress and negativity, you don’t need to come to a place that keeps telling you you are sick when you are recovering. Most guys in the US do not come here, if they do they finally seek help and get better. As I stated MCI was someone I met here and made friends with, he was convinced he was doomed, I pushed him to go to an anti-aging doctor, and he is recovering very slowly, it takes time, a lot of time. His first shot was already enough to convince him to stay on long term, in 3 months he will be doing much better.
Don’t obsess over this place, live your life, the hormones will work, as I said I will check my messages from time to time and try to post an update sometime in the future. This place is just filled with too much darkness, it is not a healthy place to be if you want to recover. Before I got involved with the forum I was on hormones recovering and far less off than I am now, and I was much happier! The constant arguing and fighting took its tole on me.
Hopefully I will see you guys soon, but as I said, if you want my email, PM me.
I also want to add, when I stayed on HRT after I crashed, I did feel horrible for a month or so, at the time I did not know the crashes were estrogen dominance. My body adapted to the estrogen, eventually I no longer had symptoms of PFS, I was not responding to testosterone as I did pre-PFS, but I was responding, and it was getting more and more as time went by. The only thing I will recommend is to take Arimidex as needed, that was the only thing I did not know and I should have done. The Arimidex is what gave me my libido and sexual function back, and then when I went on Masteron it gave it back super! For guys who don’t want to wait, I suggest you go on HRT with Goldstein and try the gel, if it doesn’t work ask about Androstanolone injection (DHT pure injection). You may have to find it yourself, but it will work. All that aside, the majority of guys with this are on hormones and recovering slowly (like me).
Good Luck and I hope to hear from you my friends soon, these guys got their wish, but they made me realize a lot tonight.
Thanks for leaving this place. This will end the home-brew recovery insanity carousell.
Awor, mew and the foundation and harvard must be supreme idiots to not know about a symptom reversing remedy called hormone replacement. Especially because they have already looked into it.
These doctors must be supreme idiots for not posting a thread on this forum to get patients to sign up with them. But one cant trust anything you say anyway, because it has been proven that you will twist facts, confuse people and other things to ram through you theory.
Guys, dont allow JQD to confuse you: There has been not one member who recovered on his protocol. Again this is what Recent Quitter had to say about JQD (notice that he is fed up by him):
AH, hey moron, Dr Jacobs and Dr Goldstein's names and numbers are on this site and we know of Tom(forget his name) who posts here and is a patient of Goldstein and is on his hormonal protocol (including DHT gel) and is recovered. These doctors told me this forum is a fraction of their patients, they have thousands of patients, this forum is just a tiny place, they are busy doctors, they aren't posting here. You contact them and go on their protocols, that's how hormonal medicine works, and if one doesn't work, they try another, but those are the places americans go to.
There is no "looking into it," you go on hormones and stay on forever, and your system recovers in time, I advise you to contact Dr Goldstein, his info is on this site, and he has a very good hormonal protocol. Good luck and good bye for now.JQD! I thought you had left? Welcome back lost child 
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I would advice you to call the foundation and harvard, and let them know that a remedy has already been found. They are wasting valuable resources to research an ailment where treatment is already available. Also you might critize them for not doing their research before accepting donations. After all the answer is just a phone call away: Dr. Goldstein. The name already says it all: He is the gold standard and his hormones are magical. Awor and all of the members here must be using low quality hormones.
Also update the wiki page for me. Thanks! 
See ya, and dont forget: The insanity caroussell will probably keep spinning, even without you!
Yes, everyone should donate to foundation and participate in studies. Then what? PFS comes in so many flavors. Mild, moderate, extreme sides, perfect bloodwork, low t blood work, blah blah blah. There are ppl who respond to hrt and there are those who dont. For people that do respond to hrt, this thread is very useful with the dual contribution of IHP and jqd. If you go to the progesterone thread, there are people who benefitted from supplementation. Are these ppl making shit up? Is hrt a cure? No, but if helps some, recovered a few, why not try?