no no jqd the 175 is for 20 mins bro…my first phone call with him was 625 dude
btw your phone calls should be free considering what you’ve discovered but that’s just me
JQD, do you think it would be a good idea to create a new thread with the plan that the purpose of this new thread will be used specifically for tracking the progress of people using testosterone suspension with or with out armidex.
I ask because the only thing that really matters at this point is people’s experinces with using your method. As interesting as this whole thing is, people’s opnions regarding your method and people arguing back And force about why or why not your method may or may not work does not matter and has no importance at all at this point. It’s actually hurting the main purpose of your thread because researches will be less likely to want to have to go through all of this and pick out the important information.
I mean keep this going, why not? But a new thread consisting of people’s experiences is what will be needed for people to see this is the answere.
I’m talking about a thread that will consist only of people’s experiences using testosterone suspension and AI’s.
What do you think ?
Was this a test done while you were taking any TRT or are these your baseline levels?
It's a brilliant idea, the only problem is people will continue to argue on it, we would need Mew to help out, unless everyone united and agreed to shun anyone who tried arguing in it. I agree we need to test all this out. I have myself and 3 others, it's possible some will respond and some won't. If 1/3 of the site responds and the rest don't it's better than nothing.
There is also the masteron option which entirely bypasses 5ar and works when used with testosterone and using it with non responders along with suspension would be very interesting. Dr goldstein tells guys to order andractim off the net, a shitty dht drug really. Masteron is depo, I used it and bypassed my 5ar.
I really don't see the point in giving up and sitting around here waiting for death to come, already guys are improving. I know this condition is dire and I feel very much compassion for Frustrated by the way. I just made a lot of discoveries that have panned out for myself and I know some people can benifit. I know everyone can benifit from an AI, so it's a good idea if we had a separate thread if we had agreements from everyone.
If someone tried to argue or debate we would all have to agree to not even respond. We can leave this for discussion.I’m pretty certain my theories are what this is, but I have to keep the option open some may have severely fucked 5ar. That’s why I developed the nuclear option which uses Primobolan (which would be the best) or masteron along with test. It’s just rather than the entire forum working united and testing out protocols, everyone fights. We should all be working towards solving this, it’s an insidious condition, but I have proven (at least to myself) it’s reversible.
Also, we have had plenty of posts from guys trying variations and improving.
Frustrated, I have a question, why haven’t you tried masteron with testosterone? It bypasses 5ar all together along with exogenous testosterone and an AI? That would definitely fix you, I already tried it, why would you accept a life sentence snd give up? There are many options out there you should exhaust before you give up.
frustrated,
those tests were clean. totally baseline…never took hrt or trt in my life
When you go on SG, don’t expect instant results, took me months to get here, suspension worked but behind it was months of prop induction and lowering estrogen, it’s a long term solution. I had given myself 3 months before I would go onto masteron, then it started working, the suspension kick started it.
Also I got lots of messages from guys who improved with hormones but never tried them because they assumed they wouldn’t work. Why is this forum so about not trying to fix this and that nothing works and suicide is the only option? I have improved so much over the last 6 months doing different hormonal protocols.
I know jqd, its tough for me personally to manage my expectations considering whats at stake…
also Ill have to be doing this while in a relationship which makes it way difficult I think. doing this single would’ve been so much easier.
but I have no regrets when it comes to that as she is amazing, hopefully with a little luck and a little help ill be out of the woods soon and
on my way to happiness. The same I wish for u and everyone else here, seriously.
btw, I took your advice and emailed his nurse Anne and she’ll prob get back to me or hopefully confer with dr Jacobs about my email
Yea I'm trying to tone down my rhetoric because I get excited and give the wrong impression of a timeline of expectations. One of the guys im working with was very upset it did not work on the first day, granted I told him it probably would. I did not take into account that I have been on prop for what? 2 months? When I started out it was horrible and hard, so when I switched to suspension I had since Halloween been lowering my estrogen and inducing dht. This will take months and maybe longer in some guys and shorter in others. I have no experience starting out with suspension, but it is extremely effective at inducing 5ar and dht.
My general rule is give it 3 months, if there is absolutely no progress in 3 months then go down the dht route, masteron. Masteron bypasses 5ar all together and works when done right with testosterone. Not everyone here has the same level of suppression or damage, so we have to keep our minds and options open. I have made significant progress over the last 2 months, this can be defeated and even if you only get 50% better, it's better than nothing.
I can't see how forcing things back into place won't speed up recovery, I have never seen a recovery story that didn't involve the guy actively doing something. Sitting around doing nothing hoping you get better is not a good plan.
We have a long road ahead of us, yea it sucks, but we can make our situation much better while we recover. I have a muscular buff body a libido and a working dick, things have dramatically improved.Has anyone here ever tried adderall? Before I had pfs I was on it and it stimulated 5ar extensively, it made me a train wreck though, just curious if it helped anyone with pfs. I wonder if it would do the same thing, but that’s not s drug I’ll be taking.
so JQD hypothetically,
lets say if Jacobs says lets wait on the shots and just try Armidex first,
- how long will it take to cut the e2 from 30 to say 15-20
- do u feel in crease in libido will come with the decrease of e2?
I’m not sure, arimidex works for me within an hour, I would try low doses like 0.25mg unless you are on testosterone. You can order arimidex online inside the us if you don’t want to wait around for him to get back to you. It’s worth a shot, I am on my phone and didn’t read your numbers but if your test is low then you need testosterone. Taking it without test is pointless if you have low test, will just lower your estrogen too much.
Hey JQD have you ever of Trenbolone?
No I havent, I have a bottle of Primobolan that I haven’t tried, I already know how to get masteron to work with our condition. I just chose the long road to restore my 5ar, I can’t imagine how something that suppresses dht will help us recover, so it’s a nuclear option.
If for some reason all else fails I’ll then go on Primobolan or masteron, I heard Primobolan is much better, and I would replace dht. However, im having very good progress with test suspension and an AI. The goal is to continue to improve, Im still working out the suspension protocol, how many times a day do I need it? Every other day? Do I keep up my own production? What kind of AI should I use and how much? Letrozole is great but kills libido so it’s only good in an emergency (crash).
So I’m still experimenting with a few things to figure out a set protocol with suspension and arimidex (or maybe low dose Letro). Then I wait, the goal is to steadily improve and get better and better, I can tell you I have done so or my protocols have just gotten really good.
I can’t live my life with untreated pfs and I don’t want to die, so I have absolutely nothing to lose in trying protocols. Suspension is considered the most potent steroid available, so I’m going to ride it out for s few months and see if I remain the same or my system becomes more responsive.
I have to figure out if it should be dosed 2 times a day or once. I also have a lingering curiosity about testosterone enanthate and Letro daily. I was on enanthate with rather low doses of arimidex before and I really started to improve a few times. I never tried enanthate with Letro, it would be much easier, but I vowed never to allow a long acting ester to enter my body again till I knew I could handle it. The estrogen fallout was a nightmare, but I have recovered my system quite a bit, but suspension is adding muscle mass on me fast and solid, so I doubt I’ll be changing up things anytime soon.
If anyone out there would like to test my theory about enanthate and Letro or high multi doses of arimidex plus a few months time, let me know. There is a difference between these small daily injections and a huge dose of test enanthate at once. The only difficulty is getting us to respond to enanthate lol, that’s why I wanted to try this just to see, as I didn’t know then what I know now.
I tired tren ace a few times, crazy results. What is odd is it, like the nadrolones, is progestin based, and they for some odd reason in me make for the most wicked nocturnals and morning wood ever. Also, when I was on tren ace my freakin libido was sky rocketed.
Not interested in experimentation - some of the other guys can do that. Never would have taken Propecia in a million years had the information been properly disclosed.
I have also been able to achieve pretty ideal blood levels before without any success. Estrogen, free T, DHT all within the normal-high normal range.