I have done that about 20 times, it just turns into pages more of arguments, I think the best thing is for me just to post updates with the guys I am working with or in contact with, or myself. Yes it is a lot of pages, but if you want to learn all my theories about PFS, read it. These theories convinced Dr Jacobs to prescribe my protocol, and this protocol is based on my theories and it has given me a libido, muscles, working penis, and improved mood.
It is not about a protocol, it is about a concept, guys who read this have caught on and started their own protocols based on mine. I recommend you start on page 3 and read on, there is so much information here that so far anyone who has read it has been surprised. People all tell me that this is the only theory that explains everything, you can't imagine the amount of work I have done to get me to this place. I spent thousands and thousands of dollars, experimented with lots of hormones, this is more than a thread, this is my PFS Manifesto.
I changed protocols a lot in this through as I figure things out and evolve to where I am, and I am about to move into an even better protocol. The good news is Dr Jacobs can treat you and he is familiar with my protocols and theories, you can email him here [alanjacobsmd@gmail.com](mailto:alanjacobsmd@gmail.com).
I'll try to keep this thread to just my updates and updates about others I am in contact with, also for guys on this protocol to post their progress. So anyone on this protocol or one based on these principals, please post updates here.
I would say if you just start reading page 3 and on, you will find everything you want to know, every question was asked, and every answer was given. I sure wish I had this thread to read when I first crashed, would have saved me months of torture and torment.I now agree with the theory of jqd, it is clearly neurosteroid thatās why we get perfect lab numbers and feel nothing. I will paste here what I just posted on another thread.
I think is all related to Androgen Receptor, 5AR, dopamine receptor.
Apr1989 when takes tribulus he feels 100% when not he feels tinnitus, muscle twitches and loose a bit of penile sensitivity. The interesting thing is that tribulus increase dopamine, and dopamine is used to treat parkinson (muscle twitches may be something similar but in a very low degree of parkinson). And SSRI cause tinnitus, brain fog, anhedonia, muscle twitching, all the same sides of pfs.
What I think that happened with Apr1989, he increased his AR then by his androgens binding to AR he improved and also androgens are linked to dopamine and vice versa, he also said that he feels no more depression. Maybe now he should do the same with dopamine receptor and one good medication to do it is pramipexole because is the only that acts on d3 receptor. One thing is that increase GH, and maybe GH increase 5AR, AR, thatās justquitdut theory I donāt know if he still agree with that, Iād like to read his opinion but I think he blocked me.
This goes to ihatepropecia. Do you think digestive enzymes, ox bile reduce estrogen? Because we have digestive problems when facing pfs and I also read that 5AR has function on liver and people that stimulated 5ar got better digestion and also liver help the body expelling excess estrogen. So what is your opinion on bile acids, digestive enzymes and ox bile, do you think it helps to expell estrogen?
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Oh, I meant that like for example, past two pages you bring up interesting anecdotes and points that we havenāt heard before (i assume but I havenāt checked all pages9. You could pool tidbits like that into a singular post, that was the idea.
But I get it, if anyone wants to do that then he can just read on from page 3 and do it himself.
When you formulate it, Let us know what the improved protocol is! And yeah, keep on those updates. Thanks for the hard work!
When I cycle I take digestive enzymes and TUDCA. I have UDCA, but found for some odd reason TUDCA works better. It is a bile acid from bears and it really helps the liver. I have also notice that when I use it, it does help lower water. Since it helps to lower water, and helps the liver, I believe we can reasonable conclude that it does help the liver remove estrogens.
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Seem like the events in charge of transforming the pregnolone in progesterone are failing somehow after using finasteride. This could be interesting.
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Well if you claim extraordinary success with your protocol you should not be surprised when people then demand evidence to be presented. I can only speak for myself, however if someone chooses to come forward after having cured PFS with your protocol, I would not harass them in any form whatsoever. Why should I?
The only thing I am doing, is egging you on to get your patients to report their progress. I think that this would really open the floodgates if they have had success.
However if you cant see that, and instead want to play the shame game with me, fine. I am in no way trying to harass you, just pointing out the obvious: Without people coming forward and vindicating you and your theories, many readers will remain skeptical. And you should understand this reaction; after all trust in protocols and medications brought us into this mess.
Look, due to the nature of this forum people donāt want to post here anymore, when you came here to this forum and hit and run post before even reading my thread you just added to it. I have a hard time posting here, if the forum were supportive we would probably have about 30 guys posting progress on here. No one wants to post, I can tell you first hand that guys have told me that, I get dozens of PMās and they say they donāt want to post here.
So you are just going to have to wait the hard way, I am not a doctor or a researcher, dr Jacobs has patients, I donāt, while I have 2 guys I am working with, they agreed to come forward when this is over, but that is up to them. When guys improve after a month they may not want to post, they may want to wait 2 months or 3, it is a gradual process. It isnāt one day you have PFS and the next you donāt, that only occurs when using Masteron (synthetic DHT) which is not something people are using as it is a last resort option and has consequences.
Eventually people will post I am sure, when CDNuts posted his protocol no one demanded evidence from him, it is merely because I stayed behind and tried to get this out there. Had I posted and left it would have never gone anywhere, so to be honest I just donāt care if you want evidence, it is irrelevant to me. I can advise you that eventually people will post here, but that is not in my control. Moonman1 is another well known poster here who is starting the protocol, lots of guys are, but you are in the minority, most are in contact with me. The one or two people who post here asking for evidence are just in the minority and it really isnāt my place or priority to provide it.
Posting here is taxing on me, so eventually I will move on, that just hasnāt occurred yet, I have posted my evidence, others can post theirs when they are ready (if they ever do). We know of 4 people here who said they are using the protocol, Luka, SG, Davey, and Moonman, thatās 4 people who arenāt keeping it a secret. So you just will have to wait for them or someone else to post when they are ready.
UPDATE: My testosterone Suspension will arrive here tomorrow!!! I will have some amazing updates in the near future!
Have you tried using it without cycles to see if you feel different?
Do you think your remaining fog is from estrogen? I believe in neurosteroid because if we see Apr1989 he has perfect testosterone levels but just after tribulus he recovered, I know that testosterone and dopamine goes hand in hand, maybe estrogen and serotonin too, just guessing but maybe youāre a little bit estrogen/serotonin dominant because dopamine gives not just libido but attention, focus, memory.
Since your androgen receptor work, your 5AR is working, would be interesting to search your missing link, I think is similar to Apr1989 his remaining symptoms are tinnitus, muscle twitches and a little more penis sensitivity, all of them could be dopamine related, when he takes tribulus the symptoms disappear.
This statement is 100% hilarious , Apr1989 when takes tribulus he feels 100%. Why donāt you try pramipexole on yourself.
Yes, I have taken them when not on cycle, and they donāt produce an noticeable effect as regard brain fog. I have taken Caber when on cycle, and remember, test is elevated on cycle, and it does help with mental function, but when on cycle, the brain fog is already gone for the most part.
I took caber when off cycle, and it did help with mental function, but it is not sustainable, so I only use it one cycle when I need it - to control prolactin when taking nadrolones.
Now, this may be telling in light of the study showing progesterone pathways to be skewed with finasteride - when I take nadrolones (deca/npp) these are progestin based, and I swear I GET THE FREAKN HARDEST WOOD EVER! FUCK! The second I lie down to sleep, instant wood, last all night, and since Iām on cycle I have to pee during the night,. Iām effin peeing with wood, trying to bend that shit down, it will not bend, hurts, makes a mess, etc. It does not go away after urinating either. It will not go away until morning when out of bed. Now, I cannot comprehend why it is so, but hey, I donāt look a gift horse in the mouth either. Also, in the flaccid state when on nadrolones, it hangs FULL and HUGE, always pumped. What is odd, is this is the COMPLETE opposite from normal people when on nadrolones. Most get no wood (deca dick) or wood is weakened.
Are you stupid?
Plenty of guys on the boards have responded well to aromatase inhibitors. Enden, Legendary, myself and JQD, to name a few. Now go look up those threads and STFU. Thereās your proof.
Testosterone accelerates the process. The whole logic is to channel Testosterone into 5ar and not aromatase. AIās block the aromatase option. So the only other option T can flow = 5ar.
Itās real simple.
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I remember reading this thread in the link below several years ago before I had PFS. itās by a IFBB pro named Emeric Delczeg. I would encourage you all to read through this starting on page 6 and simply read the posts written by Emeric himself. He talks alot about the benefit of low dose frequent testosterone injections and how there is less Estrogen conversion this way and less need for AI. he also talks about how he takes proscar for his hair and what he takes in order to combat the sexual side. If nothing else, reading threads like these will give you some insight into just how much more advanced the bodybuilding community is with hormones.
JQDā¦check this outā¦I think you will find it interesting as there are some paralells to your theories.
I dont think its necessary to call people stupid, who would like more evidence that JQDs protocol actually cures PFS or puts in remission.
As far as I know it has not been conclusively established that PFS can now be cured.
Correct me if I am wrong on this.
I am correcting you. You are wrong.
You demanded āevidenceā and āproofā of JQDās theories. I just presented the evidence and proof you demanded.
Now, you reject that evidence, raise the bar, and make impossible demands for CONCLUSIVE SCIENTIFIC PROOF that PFS can be cured!!
Listen, guys like you are all the same. You throw stones all day and have zero interest in any type of cure or evidence.
You think youāre some genius waving your arms around and yelling āNo proof! No proof!!!ā. Listen dummy, Iāll make this real simple. Scientific awareness + research + cure takes about 10-20 years. By the time āscienceā has determined a āconclusive cureā for PFS, you may be dead in the grave. All we have to go on is anecdotal evidence and knowledge. If thatās not enough for you, then God help you. Comphrende.
Some people have felt improvements in symptoms using an AI. No one has made the claim that its cured them.
Thinking like this will condemn us all to hell. Anecdotal evidence means forum posts and the internet ravings of a bunch of arm-chair scientists who veer wildly between different treatments depending on which way the wind is blowing that day.
So, take your pick: what will it be today from the magical toolbox of anecdotal forum cures: Tribulus Terrestris? Calcium D Glucarate? Maca powder? Arimidex? Masteron? Tamoxifen? HCG? Cannabis oil? Methyl protodioscin? And - surely we canāt forget this - asparagus? But wait. You must ensure it is raw asparagus. If it is not raw you are unthinking scum who cannot comprehend the power of anecdotal evidence.
If you do not eat understand the healing magic of raw asparagus, you will never be cured. You heard it hear first. If you do not accept that my unverified, wild claims are true, you will never see any improvements. Look. Asparagus can cure PFS. It can cure cancer. If you get AIDS and you slot a stalk of asparagus up your japs-eye, you will be cured. No need for evidence. Fuck evidence.
ASPARAGUS CLUB IS HERE.
No you didnt. If you want to make extraordinary claims you have to present a significant number of patients that have had success with your protocol. And you cant speak for them: They have to come on this forum and post their experience and success story. If you cant convince at least 20 of your or dr. jacobs patients to do this for you, then the protocol seems to be far less promising then you and JQD want to believe.
And I dont for a second believe that people that JQD has helped to recover, who have been suffering with PFS for years, would not have the courtesy to defend this protocol on this thread.
What you are presenting is so weak its laughable: You speak for your patients instead of them confirming, the number is pathetically small and you havent had the patience to wait it out for a few month to see if these supposed gains stay.
I am not bashing JQDs theory here. I am bashing your arrogance in believing you have proven out his theory.