Don’t act like you’re 8 years old. There is no point in using this kind of crude, offensive language except to cover up the fact you can’t answer this simple question. I’m not the only one who has posed the contradiction as well.
Great going getting Jacobs to prescribe your formulation of testosterone. Marginally helpful but only really of Any value if it can help more than 2 real PFS patients.
JQD how are the 2 unknown users doing?
THIS IS FUCKIN FANTASTIC FELLAS!
lets rip on each other with nonsensical bullshit and attacks.
I said it before and ill say it again. this is about GETTING BETTER! feeling better, having better lives.
remember life? that sorta important thing that finasteride/dutasteride TOOK FROM US?
this is fucking so stupid. This could be the thread that changes Everything for the better and this is what we have to read? seriously?
PPl are going to say “well its my opionion nah blah blah” BULLSHIT!
in this instance opinions are to work together constructively to make the best protocol possible. with respect not nit picking.
If u don’t agree then move on, this thread is long enough as it is.
How about we say things like "hey boys? JQD? why don’t we try this? what do you think? What if this works?
instead of letting boredom or negativity guide your posts.
Fact- dr Jacobs is on board with JQD’s ideas and ive vouched that he definitely knows who he is.
Fact- someone posted very recently that shorter esters, used responsibly, convert to estrogen less.
Wasn’t there a point where ppl thought we were all alone and no doctor would listen to or help us.
NOW WE DO! he’s on board and ready to go. Ive spoken with him 3 fuckin times.
I don’t care what his motivations are, he is willing to help us get better and listen to our sugestions which is huuuuge.
so do u wanna nit pick or be helpful and positive? choice is yours but ill tell ya this:
u can either sit in misery and pettiness and then have the protocol work for u and be proven wrong.
OR u can be positive and be helpful and have the protocol work for u and u wont have to be a dick.
choice is yours
im sorry, I was angry.
I just want all of us to get better and be happy that’s all. I think we deserve it after all weve been through
Patient X1 could not acquire propionate and is waiting for gel, patient X2 is getting propionate on Friday, it took along time for them to get drugs, not everyone moves as fast as I do. Before im on plan A im working on plan B, we should hear something eventually
It’s ok, I understand, just block frustrated, he seems to have another agenda that is unrelated to solving pfs. He seems to just want to discredit me and anything that can help us, it’s possible he is working for Merck, who knows. My suggestion is to add him to your block list and any other negative people. This forum far too long has been controlled by negative douche bags who have been spouting utter lies about hormones not working on guys with pfs, well guess what, I’m taking the forum back! Dr Jacobs is on board, that’s proof enough.
sounds good to me bro
People like frustrated may not even be real, they may be working for Merck or be totally insane. Frustrated clearly is not working with a full deck, doesn’t take a genius to see that. He may have been driven mentally ill by constant exposure to estrogen, so it’s best to block people like him, don’t let them inhibit your chances of getting better. If he wants to remain behind and try to convince people how dangerous getting better is, let him, but block him.
Way to own your humility Brazil…JQD and Ihatepropecia702 have answered so many questions and replied so often that I’m sure they get short, but it’s cool. I know these guys with their knowledge are going to steer us in the right direction, both are solid dudes. Start lining those ladies up Brazil, you’re going to be slaying them in no time.
Man…I’m glad JDQ accepts my personal emails. Glad to hear you did some blocking JQD. You and ihatepropecia702 always have a place to stay in LA.
Why thank you perfect gent, you certainly are a perfect gent!
LOL, I’m a figment of your imagination, not even real. Mew can even confirm that your allegations couldn’t be further from the truth. I don’t think it’s safe to trust somebody like yourself, who got PFS despite claiming expert knowledge of hormones beyond actual medical experts. This was all even after the FDA updated the label to warn of these persistent risks.
Like I said, I already exposed a guy on here that was hyping a false treatment and sending guys to Greece to visit a specialized doctor. Your behavior and attitude have been strikingly similar in style. But Dr. Jacobs is a relatively trusted doctor in the PFS community so his willingness to try this out is great but still doesn’t prove its effective. You privately told me you don’t trust him yet have publicly hyped him which harms your credibility. I hope this turns turns out to be helpful and will be eagerly waiting to hear the results.
You told me he tried to get you to go back on finasteride, I find that very suspect considering he is a doctor treating post finasteride syndrome, perhaps you are a liar.
Wait a minute, you are using the fact that I took Finasteride to discount my credibility and yet you claim that Dr Jacobs asked if you wanted to go back on it? How could a Dr such as Dr Jacobs, an expert neuroendocrinologist make such a mistake, do you question his credibility as well and compare him to this doctor in Greece you never shut the fuck up about?
No one gives a shit about your “warnings,” you adderall addict.
Lol no I didn’t. I said he asked me if I wanted to go back on Propecia at some point, which is a subtle but significant difference from what you say. And that is completely true.
I think you’re the one missing a few cards in your deck.
Edit:
I trust him much more than I trust you. He did ask me if I wanted to go back on Propecia and I found that to be insensitive. He isn’t the one who is on Propecia and that was years ago. If you continue to make these dishonest statements I will have to post the PM you sent me and I would strongly prefer not to. You know exactly what I’m taking about.
All I ask is that you exercise some humility and respect going forward. Be honest that you have limited empirical evidence to go on at this point but think this treatment will work for whatever reasons you may have. Don’t over hype this so you elevate the hopes of these unfortunate guys and crush their spirits if the promises you are making don’t deliver. People on here have been living with this for over a decade so it is extremely disrespectful for you to waltz in here with some hypothesis and promise it will help when it is very far from a certainty. You apparently have a pathologically huge ego. You will get your credit in due time if you are right, which I hope you are. Hypothetically if you are right, it is in extremely poor taste to gloat about how smart you are and how easy it was for you to find a treatment when guys have been unfortunate to be suffering for years.
Yet you claim that because I took finasteride I was lacking knowledge, yet you claim Dr Jacobs asked if you wanted to go back on? So by your very logic I am in the same boat as Dr Jacobs credibility wise?
Read this. Also my fear since I can tell I have lost feeling in my hands and feet.
http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=5248#p42958
I don’t know what you want me to say. It clearly wasn’t his finest moment but he did not personally take propecia to my knowledge. He said this years ago, he actually has medical training, and doesn’t project the same baseless certainty that you do.
I have said I think it is better to consult with some of the other PFS doctors. But I don’t believe Dr Jacobs would try to treat patients with your protocol if he felt it were very dangerous. You seem like a big risk seeker which may be worth doing for some guys and circumstances but definitely not everybody on here.
Frustrated is a muppet Cunt
heres a question:
what are we talkin in terms conversion rates to 5ar and dht.
will it be 70% the way finasteride did except the opposite? less but close?
has anyone asked this yet. shit I hope it’s a lot
I want those enzymes getting to my brain and inducing so much dht that it fixes my wang
@JQD
No steroids earth stimulates more 5AR and converts more to DHT than testosterone Suspension, it is considered the strongest anabolic steroid I believe. You could think of it as a DHT precursor, it all just converts to DHT and then within 3 hours dissipates.