If you start to feel and act like nopeia your E2 is very high. 
also JQD, are you also claiming that what Mew claimed about penile sensitivity might be incorrect.
He said that the genital skin is full of 5AR and because we decreased our supply of 5AR, that is why we feel less sensation.
But you say that estrogen dominance is the cause.
theres also eother dudes on here saying they were completely numb and regained it somehow. What gives?
Hi all, busy day, I will be responding later tonight to posts, standby
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I am gaining back alot of sensitivityā¦just from time I guess and cant stop looking at women in the streetā¦ but penis is still the size of a f*cking 10 year old kid! turned down some girl action on the weekend cause there is no way a women can see this dick at the moment.
I think for me I am gonna ask Jacobs to get me this protocol
Clomid first (to start my own signalling of test)
also HCG same concept start my own testā¦I know very estrogenic but can combat this with AIsā¦also might get chrysin to use with
letrozole dailyā¦
and arimidex on hand for estrogen spikes.
if doesnt work, then ill see for testosterone propionate.
I do like the idea more going on HGH pre cursors to stimulate 5AR rather than Test though as there are many many benefits with this drug.
hey lukasā¦are u really gaining back sensitivity for real??? this is really big for me so any info u can input would be greatly appreciated, but I donāt want to get off the main focus of this thread because its just too damn important.
Also as for your size issue, listen im not an expert but id do ntice that when im most relaxed mentally and physically (pelvic floor) it becomes much more full. And donāt forget man, finasteride causes anxiety issues which in turn causes penile shrinkageā¦
consider anti anxitety meds or try natural stuff to see of u can recover so fullnessā¦maybe arginine or citulline malate. Just to try and see.
or it could very well be hormonal in which case im sure T and DHT will help no doubt.
Your doctor is wrong, you wonāt get anywhere with him, this is neurosteroidal, thatās why guys have normal estrogen on tests, take an AI and post that they are feeling better. Remember that Masteron is my nuclear option, I donāt believe we will need it, itās just comforting to know I can with one hormone give my body the ability to respond to any form of test 150%.
However, my therapy is designed to cause our system to recover, in 3 weeks my 5ar and dht activity has increased by about 25%. I would say I am that much more responsive to testosterone propionate and all symtoms have that much increased in improvement. What confuses people is I do have an endless list of protocols that I went through, I was remodulatoing every day and week till I found something that worked, then I would build on that.
If for some reason there are non responders or people who have 5ar that just doesnāt recover (which I donāt believe will occur) masteron bypasses the 5ar system altogether. So thatās why I had 150% improvement on it, but what guys who tried it in the past didnāt do is use it along with testosterone to inhibit estrogen and replace dht and also take an AI to control other forms of estrogen.
I am against masteron unless for some reason your system does not rebound on this therapy after maybe 5 months. It takes several months for body builders to recover from similar conditions using pct protocols. I have multiple protocols that I devised for myself just in case, but my theories are being confirmed as my 5ar increases and dht increases each week.
Also, they donāt make masteron in the us, dr Jacobs wouldnāt be able to prescribe it, itās not a practical solution. If itās required it would be good to have an army of guys on it to get some doctor to notate it so they could legally take it and acquire it, right now itās just an illegal steroid.
Get your minds off that for now, all of you can recover your 5ar system with this therapy, thatās confirmed by people recovering after years of having this condition and doing various 5ar stimulation therapies over the years unknowingly.
Hey sg8627, relax, itās ok, you are just confused, I will respond to you later tonight and help you, in the meantime of you read through the last 10 pages of my thread till now or so, you will be up to date. You are a little mixed up and I understand this is confusing, no one who has pfs asked to get an exotic condition that you have to be an expert in hormones to even understand.
Iāll post more later when I have time tonight.
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Ironically, you are completely mischaracterizing what I said. Never did I say the doctor thought your ideas held any merit. The doctor thought you theories were half-baked and simplistic but at least more on point than when you suggested we take asparagus.
Start taking very low doses of Arimidex (since you are not injecting test yet) like 0.25 and see how you feel in an hour, if you feel better take more, you will quickly find out what I mean. These are neurosteroids, the only way to gage them is how we feel, thatās why they donāt show in tests but we can feel them. I have capitalized off that principal and used it to my advantage in order to treat this condition. In the end I had to just start trying things till I felt something, I learned a long the way, Arimidex wonāt hurt you. If you have good natural testosterone levels you should try it, nopecia too if he is too afraid to try test then try some Arimidex and see what happens. Just donāt over do it, go by how you feel with small doses, if operating without exogenous testosterone then stay at 1mg a day or less.
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These are 2 different problems, estrogen dominance is a result of low 5ar, that doesn't negate Mew's theory. I haven't read much of what Mew believes, but the little I read seems to be consistent with my direction. What I do know is the penile sensitivity issue is reversible and not damage, the pfs research done just showed differences in the skin. They concluded it was from androgen deprivation, men can function with penises that are transplanted, it's all hormonal.
The low 5ar and high neuroestrogen is making people think this is something beyond what it is, but I had sacompletely numb dick and turned it into a monster with masteron and reversed all the symptoms, the curve all. Then I went to this therapy to restore my own dht and it is functioning 100% with no problems, I don't need any Ed medication.
I only mention masteron as a baseline that I can bring anyone too in case they for some strange reason don't recover, but I don't believe in non recovery. This is a simpler problem than people have suspected with a simple solution, it's not just me who is improving, we have heard from multiple people now. Only a matter of time till we start having posts from all the propionate users out there (that is if they don't go off and never return again).I have said this several times and you declined to comment. It is the complete opposite of negative feedback that results from injecting testosterone and would be a form of positive feedback since lower levels of 5AR would beget decreased 5AR production. However this is not even necessarily what is going on.
5-alpha-reductase is created in cells throughout the body unlike testosterone which is predominantly created in the leydig cells and a smaller degree in the adrenal glands.
Your PCT analogy is also incorrect. In post-cycle-therapy you are activating the actual cells that produce testosterone to reactivate the bodyās production system. Normally somebody will take clomid which boost LH and stimulates the testicles.
The reason why your approach is not similar to androgen PCT is that you can stimulate the specific cells to produce testosterone where 5-alpha reductase is produced globally and there are no leydig cell equivalents for 5AR. 5-alpha reductase is a enzyme/protein that is assembled in cells according to instructions encoded in your genes and it is the genes that would have to be expressed. This is why some serious doctors are interested in looking at potential epigenetic consequences of taking propecia.
Yeah, Iām going to the doctor on Friday to ask for Arimidex. One question I have is, if Arimidex (AIās in general) work by lowering oestradiol, shouldnāt we be looking at that to start with?
My oestradiol was: 108 Pmol/l (44 - 156) /29.4 pg/mL
Is that high enough to warrant lowering it? I read also that Arimidex can also cause low libido because too low oestradiol is bad too. It could also cause bone problems, so weād need to watch that.
Any thoughts on asking for the following from my doc too: HGC, DHEA and Zyban? My research the last few days has led me to believe they may all be useful too.
Btw sorry that this sorta hijacks the main purpose of this topic, maybe we can create another topic for people with āfirst stage PFSā. Would be more organised that way?
Edit: just read that 30 pg/mL might be considered on average to be perfect (thinksteroids.com/community/thr ā¦ 134293708/). If thatās the case, mine is almost perfectā¦ which makes me unconvinced to try Arimidex 
This page (lef.org/Magazine/2008/11/Dan ā¦ le/Page-02) also confirms 20-30 pg/mL is ideal.
JQD has made it clear that starting with armidex and working your way up to the stronger AI if needed is not a bad idea. Why donāt you just do that and report back to us your results?
Anyone whoās intrested in trying somthing that they have not done yet should just do this. Itās easy and safe. The only way this thread can really progress is if people just try it. Iām having severe stomach/digestive issues to the point that my scattiac nerve is affected. Is giving me a new defination of pain. Anything in the gym Is just severe pain. I have my hands full right now tweaking my diet to being one hundred percent gluten free and organic. Itās challenging me in ways I havd never been challenged.
Anyway this is y Iām not taking anything right now. But I think you guys should just jump on the armidrx. Whatās the worst that can happen if you already have severe Ed anyway?
Because itās a reasonable question: why lower something thatās already fine? Iām asking because I know itās exactly what any doctor is likely to say. So we need a proper answer.
Read through Legendaryās thread. Especially the last few pages, his endo. answers most of these questions.
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Thanks, Iāll check
What youāre asking is the theme of this entire thread. JQD has been saying this is estrogen dominance at the neurosteroidal level that wonāt show up on blood tests. So you may have normal or even low E readings, but still be estrogen dominant.
Hey dude,
Itās real simple. If your testosterone is high already, then I would just trial Arimidex or Letrozole first. Go by how you FEEL. Not by bloods. The sweet spot for estrogen is boners, libido, night wood, morning wood, energy and good mood. Too high estrogen = impotence, no libido, weak boners etc. Too low estrogen = impotence, no libido, weak boners, ACHY JOINTS etc. Go by how you feel.
If you want to take the Test Prop with the AI, then go ahead. Again, keep the Test Prop at a consistent dose, and play around with the AI dose until you FEEL GOOD. Boners, libido and mood come back. Donāt go overboard with the AI. Just start at the dose recommended here and titrate the dose a bit, every couple days until you FEEL GOOD.
The AI will control estrogen and prevent hardcore shutdown. Estrogen is the primary regulator of Testosterone levels. So even though you will be taking Test P, the AI will prevent a good amount of the shutdown and ur balls will still be working.
Thatās my 2 cents.
Thanks for clarifying! Minor detail but everything clicks into place now.
Sounds like your best option is Zyban then. Legendary had low T and High E. His blood work showed issues. His Endo still said lets try Clomid with Let and See if you respond. I donāt think your blood work qualifies as Secondary Hypo Chris. That was Legendryās diagnosis. Unless you find a doctor willing to work outside the box your not going to get anywhere.