Justquitdut- you know I’m in your corner. 2 years ago I proposed a theory where on a neurosteroid level (brain) we had a dramatic shift in the balance between progesterone and estrogen in favor of estrogen. I felt strongly this was the issue, your protocol seems to perfectly attempt to address this issue. I will be starting it in a few weeks.
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Awesome Finatruth, yea I know you are, there are a lot of nice guys lurking and PMing me and even some saying they started and are improving but no public posts, leaving me to fight alone. So I understand not wanting to register an account, but they have accounts, so they can post their questions or comments here so it can help the thousands of guys reading this who have no account here.
What we do now may be frozen here in history forever, no one may ever progress the cause for PFS, this may be IT!! So posting questions and answers and experiences here helps everyone, us, and people in the future.
We already now know these PFS crashes are estrogen and reversible with arimidex, I have had countless messages from guys confirming it, and experiences with patient X1 and myself. We are making progress here, if we all work together testing out protocols we may be able to help those who respond less with perhaps experiences of how long it took for some to respond to this and others who might respond quicker.
This is a discussion form JQD not your personal dictatorship. telling people to not post who disagree with is just the mark of a simple man and mind.
Nobody who is getting better on your protocol is being scared off your thread by people disagreeing with you. That is moronic. The reason there are so few posters with “reversal” is most likely they are not reponding the way you are.
You ve been touting this protocol for a couple of months now. I d be delighted to see replicates however none so far.
We ve just had another poster “robbo” who weighed in on my point of the potential for worsening on a magic protocol.
As he said, dont believe you can t get worse. He now says he has impaired vision from progesterone use.
This is one more corroboration of my point than JQD has right now.
He will try to dismiss this as a hateful druggy rant or something else. Unfortunately it is mere fact as quoted from other members.
Fucking with endocrine disruptors has the potential to do more harm than good. Particularly in the absence of blood tests (which jqd says are useless) and a compident specialist.
Another user contribution in a different thread really beings this point home. Westside now claims to he at 1.5 out of 10 after following “cure/reversal protocols”
" it makes me mad and concerned when I see people on this board who have been here for a mere few months coming on here proclaiming to people they found the cure and recommend to everyone to start taking this or that. They say things like “why not try it we’ve got nothing to loose”. Yes you do have something to loose, you have no idea the depths that are there."
HEY FUCK FACE, I am getting 20 messages a day from guys, they are telling me they don't want to post here because of people like you, thats why you are the ONLY person attacking me you fucking drug addict, everyone else is either following my protocol, working on getting it, or friends with someone who is doing it. Ever noticed why the forum got so quite douche bag?
Shut the fuck up, I am done with you, because people didn't respond to other people's protocols and got worse that means mine doesn't work even though Dr Jacobs is prescribing it? Go back under your bridge you fucking troll, no one wants to hear your drunken rants. I have received private messages from people telling me they are responding to this, so I will NOT be posting anymore until you people come forward and post here.
I am not going to be attacked on here and called a liar because you guys are unwilling to publicly post, you don’t post, I don’t post, and I am not answering anymore PM messages. You want my help, come here and defend me and support me rather than let me get attacked and defamed on here, not cool.
Finbasteride, the forum is all yours, if these guys want my help they can post here, I am moving on with my life, I am not going to sit here with 1000 private messages and waste my time responding while my integrity is being questioned publicly.
ENJOY
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Well that was a measured and reasonable response. Delighted you followed up on my predicitons too.
Not a single one of these 20+ men are gong to come forward? If they are listening I have no interest in attacking people who say they have tried something and feel better. That would be ridiculous. My issues are as previously stated.
I’m going to start posting people’s private messages then
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Here is one, I will be posting more, I’m not going to have my integrity questioned when I’m helping people. Some others are people I have made friends with, but if people don’t come forward I’ll have no choice but to post more of the many positive messages I’m getting privately. Come forward people and help me and others by posting publically!
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If you want me to answer that post, post your question publically, I’m not answering anymore, I’m tired of being attacked, you guys want me to keep posting them come forward and defend me or like CDnuts I’m just going to move on. No reason I should sit here being trashed when I can move on with my life.
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I get so many messages I have had to delete them all just so more can come in, it freezes them. If you guys want my help you can’t be selfish, others are suffering not knowing if this is working or not and you guys are all stayinf private, not cool to leave me to be attacked.
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Excellent news. Glad it has helped this member.
Parient X1 and x2 are my friends so they will come forward when they are ready, but the rest of you guys need to contribute publically, I don’t wanna come here alone being attacked anymore.
You see I’m not lying Finbasteride, these guys are just not fucking posting!!! So I’m not answering till they do, I think it’s only fair they all come forward at this point if they want my help.
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I think that if someone used something that made them feel better, thats great! We will have to wait for these two other guys to come foward when they are ready though… Fight because of this is absurd and non sense. Whoever wants to follow this will follow it. Period. If you feel like waiting around to see how things go then great, do that. I am very curious to see whats going to happen in the following weeks, months. Dont be so quick to judge, it might work it might not work, It might only cure mental sides, but FUCK ISNT THAT AMAZING? Lets wait and see, and then we’ll be able to measure the pros and cons.
And I never did this with natural mehods or clomid so these guys using their own testosterone need to post to help others here who can’t get propionate or are too afraid. You see that this guy still hasn’t posted but he private messaged me. We all have to contribute, I made huge discoveries and keeping it quiet isn’t helping anyone, the more you guys come forward the more it will help. Who knows who else is reading this, Harvard researchers? I haven’t heard from Mew in a while, I wonder if he is trying this too.
cmon JustQuit, don’t even entertain these guys. Youre doing great work brother and one day we all including the naysayers be forever in your debt brah seriously…
Im scared but im getting slowly mentally comfortable with trying your plan. Under Jacobs supervision of course. I really need a surge of 5ar and this trib I use that 40% protodiscin is either fake or im not talking enough who knows.
Is your protocol a life long treatment?
We have seen guys recover in about 4 years who kept stimulating their dht, I think it will cure us eventually, low testosterone is another condition though, I have no prob being on test for life. Once you feel it you won’t either lol, but no I don’t believe we will have to be on this for life.
Thanks for your support, keep in mind your natural test levels may not cut it, we can only boost so much, if we don’t have it we need propionate. I suggest you contact dr Jacobs straight away and ask him for my propionate protocol, boy I’m making that guy a ton of money lol, that’s how the world works. Anyway, who cares, as long as we cure this curse. Try some other test boosters, remember arimidex as needed, but trib alone may not be enough. That’s why I suggest you go to Jacobs and fry this thing with propionate
@Newbie…don’t be so scared dude. I’ll gladly take joint discomfort is it means I can get my big ass dick back. You should be more afraid of the havoc estro dominance will wreak on a man’s body. JQD is right, the minute someone starts feeling better they suddenly forget how to post results. 
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youre the Man JustQuitDut…you’ve given me hope…
however ive heard u mention that the longer u go more damage is done…
well ive never don’t any protocol in my 4-5 years of recovery…i guess for the most part I got better on my own, who knows…my problem largely lies in penile sensitivity and maybe some depression, but that another story…
if I started the protocol now do you feel it will undo some damage man?
To answer your question newbie, if you aren’t on injectable testosterone you don’t need doses at 1mg as needed. You should order liquidex online (liquid version of arimidex) and use smaller doses as needed. The side effects of arimidex are related to the ratio of estrogen we have I have found and even read in a study that researchers believed that. Before pfs 0.5mg every other day on test would give me joint probs. when I injext too much propionate and my estrogen spikes I have taken 10mg a day (spaced out 1mg every hour till the estrogen is gone). I don’t get but minor joint dryness (I hear cracking) nothing that affects me. In studies done with arimidex they used up to 10mg a day on people with no problems. However, without exogenous testosterone you shouldn’t need doses anywhere near that. Go by what you feel, these are neurosteroids and won’t show in blood tests, try smaller doses as you feel estrogen (formerly known as pfs crash symptoms).
Think of arimidex as xanax, take as needed in the smallest most effective dose, without injecting test you won’t need my doses. That’s why the trick is to find the lowest test propionate dose that works with the least arimidex. As you induce dht with testosterone your dht will kill some estrogen (depending on how much you produce). Arimidex doesn’t kill estrogen, just stops it from being created. I’m working on better approaches to this, course some will attack me for evolving my protocol, but I’m working on a new and exciting approach that will require less AI, it will be months before I get the drugs and test my theories.
Also this stimulation may cause us to recover over time and need less arimidex and produce more dht.