Hey guys, I am getting spontaneous erections now from girls talking to me about sex, i am amazed at this protocol. I have had to take about 2 to 3mg of arimidex a day, but the number was much higher a week ago. My muscles are pumped up again like they used to be before pfs. The challenge each of you will have I think is finding the perfect dose of propionate and arimidex for yourself. Each of you will have to start low and find your dose. It seems 30mg a day for now is my dose, I haven’t tried any higher as I started to break out, but this is good enough for now.
The key to all this working is learning what estrogen surges feel like and taking enough arimidex. I have had to take 1mg as needed, but 1 injection a day and a few pills a day wow, after all these months and extensive protocols to maintain myself. I have reversed pfs, and I had bad pfs, and have it, but I feel by normalizing things they my homeostasis is correcting. I think in 3 months I will be fully recovered on this protocol. As time goes by I should require less and less arimidex.
The more dht is induced, the more it is stored and used, there is no way this could naturally occur with pfs. You know, I wish someone from the UK would tell me why all the guys from the UK are terrified of hormones. Many of you (if not all) will probably always have low testosterone, there is no way to cure low testosterone. Pfs is a different condition which ultimately causes low T and once those levels are low they never rise again.
Once the damage is corrected with this protocol, you may be able to get by with test boosters or HCG or something. The problem is that with pfs we need to strictly control our hormone levels till our systems correct. I can’t see how it can be done without propionate, aside from its high induction of dht, the fact that it has such a short half life makes it easy for us to combat the estrogen with our systems naturally or arimidex.
I also believe once the damage is corrected we will eventually be able to use a longer acting testosterone ester (a once a week shot). Who knows though, so far I am the first person to find a way to make Hrt work with pfs. I can’t imagine why any of you would rather suffer then reverse this thing, life is too short. I also want to earn you guys again about the dangers of estrogen, estrogen causes Cancer, we don’t know the consequences of allowing this condition to go untreated.
Those of you trying to do it naturally must also accept that naturally a lot of guys end up with cancer when their estrogen levels are like this. Are there hrt doctors in the UK at all? Fortunately hormone replacement for guys is very simple and you can do it yourself and get your blood levels checked every 6 months by a doctor to make sure all is ok if you want.
I know I may not be around on this forum forever, my hormones are raging, but I’m trying to document as much as I can before that happens. Hopefully patient X will get his propionate soon and come forward quickly once we get his doses right.
Hang in there guys, I assure you this is the real deal, and in case you guys don’t all know, I was on accutane when I was younger, finasteride for 13 years and avodart for 2 weeks. This nonsense about androgen insensitivity is just plain ignorance of neuroendocrinology. I don’t mean that in an insulting way, it took me a while to figure this out, but once you get estrogen down and start inducing dht via propionate, you will respond to testosterone.
The reason these guys think they are androgen insensitive is because of the longer acting esters, no way to control the estrogen which then shuts you down. It is so isolating to know all this and not yet have enough info out. Hopefully dr Jacobs will learn from my protocol and be able to help the more weary guys who are afraid to try this on their own.
Those of you thinking of suicide, stop, this condition is no mystery, the jaded people who advocate that it is irreversible are wrong. If anyone has their propionate and arimidex yet, please post here, remember that you can’t expect instant results. The first week or so may be tough while you are figuring out the right doses for yourself. Starting out low with my original protocol is the best and surest way to get this thing working and for you to learn about your body and how this feels and works.
I can’t tell you how nice it is to be normal again, and every day it seems to get better, I honestly don’t know how much dht builds up. I mean they it could continue to build up in a month, this protocol induces a good amount of dht. When your dht gets high your body stores it as a prohormone for later use. So as this happens your body will get to a point where you have good dht. I believe all this is on the neurosteroidal level, so these UK guys with their blood tests need to accept that this condition won’t reflect much on tests. I’m not saying they are entirely useless, but they may provide no assistance. Dr Jacobs wants to see how my levels look now that I have things working so well, I’ll keep you guys up to date.
I wanted to add that I came up with a protocol for guys who want to try this naturally, multiple pct protocols without any of the dht stuff, don’t use CDnuts dht prohormones, it will set you back. Get arimidex and use that with multiple constant out protocols and just keep doing pct testosterone boosting cycles and manage the estrogen with arimidex, see if they works, the key is arimidex with the 5ar stimulation. Remember that nothing happens if your estrogen is too high.
What do you mean like the Baylor studies have produced 2 suicides?
It’s not the study causing it. It’s the severity of the situation and lack of hope.
the studies were announced a year ago and they still have not enough participants. so it will certainly take more than a year, probably longer, before the results gets published. And the answers we will get from that will most likely not bring us a cure or even the answer why we got this, maybe a proven symptom we got, that some here already knew 10 years ago. and we have to keep in mind that the most effective way in research is trial and error. So i think youre doing a great job JDQ. If we try things with a positive mindset, so that we give it a chance to succeed, we will get answers. there are enough recoveries here to prove that this can be reversed. But when there is a recovery, people will not believe it and will not duplicate their treatment. Just because they think that they dont had pfs and were lying or from merck. or the revocery is not logical with the knowledge we have at the moment. We have to remind that Pfs is not possible from a logical aspect, so maybe an illogical approach gives us more answers, who knows. Maybe we just need some extra estrogen 
(livescience.com/39573-men-ag … rogen.html) But If you don’t believe in the theory from jdq thats fine, just let it go and go to a thread with a theory that you believe in and work on that. If we have multiple groups working on different approaches and theories trying out different protocols we are much more likely to find a treatment that works.
No problem Justin, all I can do is post my experiences and like others I actually have dr Jacobs agreeing with my protocol. If people here want to speak against it, I’m not arguing with them again. You know some people prefer to live with estrogen domimance. They may like having breasts and maybe want a sex change, I don’t know lol 
Very true pff, only difference with my protocol and theories is that dr Jacobs understands them and agrees with them. He even said he is going to use test propionate for patients with other conditions that this form of test could be useful for other conditions too. Pfs does make sense to me, if I spoke to you on the phone I could explain it, takes a while. Recent quitter argued with me on here for a while, we spoke on the phone for 2 days and he believes my theories now. He had already had setup an appointment with dr Goldstein, plane tickets and all, and so he wanted to follow through. My point is, it does make sense, I agree with multiple approaches, I am sure this is the best one though, as I have tried them all lol.
If people disagree with me they can go try another approach, I am simply documenting everything so the next poor bastard who gets stuck like me, has a bloody way out of it (like my Brittish slang? Lol). I’m not sure how long till I’m considered recovered, but I consider this a reversal which is an induced recovery, eventually my body will also change to pre fin, it seems to be now.
I am glad you seem to be doing well. Despite your doubters people like u give me hope. I will be trying your protocol next payday I will order. Thanks brother for fighting and sharing your success.
You have to question why someone with pfs would doubt someone else who managed to reverse it, what's their basis for trying to discredit someone for finding a way out of it? Especially if that method is approved by dr Jacobs and is along the same lines as he has used. You have to question if those people are even legitimate or perhaps Merck plants to discredit any chance of a recovery. Merck would like us all to commit suicide, so I would question people who try to discredit me, they may be Merck agents, if you have trouble believing that, remember that Merck has done far worse.Well I don’t think that’s likely. Rather they/we are hopeless because time has been proof if no real recovery.
That’s what I have and you keep saying I don’t have pfs.
It looks disturbing down there. I was at the gym and took a piss. Almost decided to go ahead and kill myself. This only happens once or twice every day of my life. The mental trauma is unreal.
I am happy to report that patient X (who is well known to this forum) is still waiting for his propionate, but with my guidance and using the principals in my theories, today he has felt better than he ever has since he got pfs. He is inducing dht with tribulus and controlling estrogen with arimidex, this is not a stable protocol but a good training wheels protocol and he now can see my theories are correct. I’m
Trying to teach him everything I know so that he can pass on the knowledge as well. Once he comes out of the closet you will all believe!
When I first got pfs the same thing happened to me, fear not, help is on the way, a treatment has been found and the principals are already working on yet a third person with pfs. This one is smart enough to understand the concepts and theories and pass on the knowledge once he is on the propionate.
Guys, if somebody experiences a recovery on Testosterone and AI’s…CELEBRATE.
I’m going on nine years here with no recovery. I don’t give a shit if I never recover, naturally. In fact, I don’t expect it.
All I want is to have a normal sex life. And if that means using steroids, so be it. We should all be so lucky to even have a treatment that works. Seriously.
Guys piss and moan around here there’s no treatment and theyre fucked. Then when a treatment comes along they piss and moan that it’s not a natural recovery. Seems guys around here just wanna gripe and bitch about something. Be fucking thankful we got a treatment that could actually work and turn your numb dicks into lethal weapons again. Fuck,.
No Shit
What the fuck does it mean? You reversed your symptoms?
You now have patients?
Recent quitter tried your protocol and it didn’t help him. Are you not going to mention that data point?
That is a lie, recent quitter NEVER tried my protocol, what is your point with spreading lies finbasteride? You want to sabotage this treatment? I text with recent quitter and have been trying to convince him to try my protocol, as of now he has not done so.
That is a lie, recent quitter NEVER tried my protocol, what is your point with spreading lies finbasteride? You want to sabotage this treatment? I text with recent quitter and have been trying to convince him to try my protocol, as of now he has not done so.