Endocrine Disruptors: The bigger picture

Thank you guys for making this possible.

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Amazing work. Thankyou.

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The endocrine stuff makes sense, that’s what all hormone changing drugs have in common I guess. I really wonder how many people have had their lives ruined by something as simple as BPA plastics. Yeah it’s unlikely but definitely possible.

Wow amazing news…This could give people on the edge hope to hang on for possible help one day…

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No doubt about it! I went over ten years believing I was alone in the world with this problem. At the point of being so fed-up and hopeless that the only options left were to end it all or become a recluse.

Then found out, through this site, that there were some fine gentlemen working towards a solution. The wait has been excruciating, but at least now there is a reason to hang on and fight because of those in our community who are moving forward, either by actively promoting research, or by simply supporting it.

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From a personal standpoint, PEDS does not seem like a suitable name. When doctors refer to Endocrine Disruptors they’re referring to compounds, chemicals, things of that nature that have the ability to alter the hormone production in a negative manner whether it be at the hypothalamic, pituitary level, or gonads. Yeah, you could argue finasteride does the same thing since it lowers DHT and may cause estrogenic sides. But what we are referring to is a literal endocrine shut down, to the point where there is hormone but no signaling or gene activation. This is not what doctors are talking about and using the term endocrine disruption will only get the two confused since there are VAST differences between them. We should stay away from that term IMO. But shit, what do I know.

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Glyphosate is in a lot of wheat products and it’s an endocrine disruptor and can cause cancer

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That here really is key. I hope everyone is busy uploading their data/purchasing the test, because that is something pretty much everyone here can help with. So there are no excuses and there is noone else to blame than us if we cannot provide sufficient data to perform a meaningful analysis. This could help to skyrocket the acceptance of our problem and the resources available to us. So let’s pick up the ball and run with it!

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thanks awor for this and always bringing more attention to the problem. thanks mew for the forum. your guy’s work is revolutionary for us. without you fellas, we would still be arguing, alone, on the internet, with no attention in sight.

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A problem with referring to this problem as endocrine disruptors is that there are too many of them and a lot aren’t powerful enough to cause these symptoms. Beer is relatively harmless endocrine disruptor for example. We’ve all been subjected to these little things altering hormones our entire life but it took something powerful like finasteride to really cause problems.

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Of course! It is known in Europe. It was discussed whether Glypho should be forbidden or prolonged in Germany. It was prolonged.

A nice point in case that money is often more powerful than scientific evidence, unfortunately.

@axolotl, @Mewthat many or even any substance that interrupts the endocrine system can cause what we call the Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS). He believes that PFS, PSSD, PAS, etc. are all the same underlying biological problem.” I and @gents93,@joey10,@wlan reenter? We different substances! :disappointed_relieved:

This Syndrome makes no more sense to call it PFS (Post-Finasteride Syndrome). It comes not only from Finasteride but from multiple substances: Minoxidil, Saw Palmetto, Oxerutina, Spironolattone, Soya, Cardio Mariano, Drastic Diet, Zinc, Acai Berry, now also Aspirin and who knows what other substances! Is not it more correct to find a more appropriate name for this condition? Do you have any ideas?

@Demon, we agree with you. Renaming is on the list of things to do.

We don’t want anyone to feel discouraged by the name we have at the top of the page.

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By the way @Demon it’s good to see you posting. I missed you these past few days.

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These days I was really bad my friend, even now …

I know it’s hard. I’m glad that you are so strong.

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