Cured after 11 years

Not sure what happened there. Here’s a search for Proviron that turns up results from various topics:

And a search for mesterolone, the generic name of Proviron:

I wonder what a researcher like Dr. Abdelmahed Traish would think of this case study and if he thinks it would be plausible. I mean if all these researchers go out of their way to call the PFS damage “probably irreversible” in their scientific medical papers… That means that in all of their expertise and wisdom they couldn’t see a way to reverse the damage done.
If the treatment were as simple as ‘desensitize the DHT receptors’ wouldn’t it be something hormone specialist geniuses like Dr. Traish would have come up with a long time ago? Or am I giving these researchers too much credit?


What about Proviron(or DHT injectable) and HCG? Will those shut me down?

Proviron alone in small doses for short-term is not that suppressive. Hcg and other injectable androgens are highly suppressive, especially hcg as it converts to estrogen at a high rate.

Nothing in this post makes any sense at all. The goal was shut down and HCG is a gonadotropin, it doesn’t convert to estrogen :man_facepalming:

I wonder why these researchers call PFS “irreversible”. many people get spontaneously better. I also think doctors like to air on the side of caution when it comes to possible treatments due to the fact that anything affecting the androgen pathway can be potentially disastrous


I don’t buy that this is irreversible in the sense that nothing can ever get us out of this. I’ve had periods where libido returns and erections are better. The body’s signalling is bruised but not severed IMO.

If I had a year off of work I bet I could beat this with diet, meditation, and training like an athlete all day


Duration was 2-3 months IIRC. I had an E2 of 35 pg/ml at the time. I used it at 25mg (sometimes 50mg) per day. It increased my libido and heightened my aggressiveness and strength at the gym. It also gave me a drier and harder muscles tone and of course thinner hair. These are all hallmarks of elevated DHT activity. It slightly suppressed my T. However, I now have low E2 that’s hovering around 19pg/ml so lowering it further (or blocking its receptors) may not be the best idea. I have a bunch of Proviron packs laying around. I may give it a try when I solve my low E2 plight.

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Most of the uses of this term in the literature refer to “potential irreversible” effects, or they say “persistent or irreversible.” A representative title from Michael Irwig:

Persistent sexual side effects of finasteride: could they be permanent?

So most of the examples I see are using caution about saying whether it’s irreversible or not.

Here’s a search of PubMed for ‘finasteride irreversible’:

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I was responding to this comment:

It would appear though that people with severe physical symptoms such as myself there is some form of organ damage…Kidney’s, liver, pancreas, spleen…It is much more than just sexual for some people…

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Guys I think this is a very important recovery story and that the thread should be kept on topic.


You probably have accrued some organ damage unfortunately since organ health is tied to the GI tract which evidently cannot and doesn’t function properly without functional androgen signalling. The good news is you can 1. lessen the damage through healthy habits and 2. the organ damage seems to be reversible in most cases (not sure about osteoporosis)

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I replied to the post above. Yes, hcg can’t convert to estrogen on its own as its a synthetic lh. I meant that the testosterone that is produced with the help of hcg will convert to estradiol at a high rate.

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When you read the memberstory of chi Chi's Member Story & Progress I think it’s the same principle that he used. I think he raised dht with his daily sprints and weightlifting. He did this for 3 months. After the three months he took a break and that’s exactly the time when his first really big improvements happened.
Very interesting!


I don’t believe it. Many folks on this forum have tried Proviron with no luck. Eleven years and no posts and now he posts after he is cured. If it was this easy we’d all be cured years ago. Sounds a lot like CDnuts.

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He likely surpressed his HPTA and his body rebalanced or receptors rebalanced. Others may have taken smaller dose proviron without shutdown? Or it doesn’t do much with TRT?


Did you read what he did?

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No one has tried proviron at this high of a dose if im not mistaken


I do support you on that one! Pretty sure someone will try to replicate this protocol, then will get so much worse that the only way out for him would be suicide. I do hope this won’t happen! But as I see what is going on here on this forum, all these theories without any scientific backup, or if there is any, it covers just a small fraction of the whole picture, which is more dangerous than not knowing anything what is going on, as if you know nothing usually you don’t try to fix it…