7 YEARS OF POISON -- Recovery progress

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#41

Guys, what can I say. I have been through literal hell, as have many of you. My story is well documented on this site somewhere. All I can say is that I am finally cured, and basically back to normal. I even have a beautiful healthy baby boy with my wife. The mental side effects remain from time to time-a PTSD situation IMO-where I mentally mull on the depression I used to feel.
Anyways, i started getting better a full two years after stopping the pill(poison) and only after I stopped using any real medicines. I feel the only thing that helped me, honestly, was time.

I feel pretty close to 100%, although mentally some doubt still creeps in my mind during sexual situations, but this is really due to my past memories.
Ask questions if you want…

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#42

Congrats and thanks for retruning with a positive outcome.

Did you experience the typical post cessation recovery then crash?

#43

Fuck yeah op! Congratulations on your little boy! And congratulations on your recovery. Do you feel the “real meds” held you back at all?

#44

Congratulations. Some people that post a recovery state that they are like they used to be before they took Propecia but are pretty vague about what actually got better. Can you go into detail about the symptoms that have improved?

#45

good news great to hear. can i ask if you had any Physical changes like facial wasting (loss of masculine structure/fat/thin skin) and penis wasting or muscle wasting? if so did it regrow?

thanks anton

#46

Must be more to it than that. Some guys have been off propecia for much longer and aren’t recovered.

#47

Why so negative Chris? He says he recovered. Add it to the list.

#48

I mean it must also have been the lifestyle changes which he documented.

#49

This is great for you 12345 and really interesting. You might not have been a hardcore victim but you seemed to have bad ED and zero libido for a while. I see in one of your penultimate posts you said you’d never take prescribed drugs again but to what extent would you attribute your recovery to taking clomid and arimidex?

#50

How badly affected were you mentally and how long did that garbage take to resolve? Were you able to hold down a job etc during this fiasco and how was you general life quality during the first two years? Was it all hell?

Congrats again

#51

Guys,

I do feel my symptoms were horrendous, I mean, I was hospitilized for 20 days in a mental facility. I dreamt about suicide on a daily basis for over a year, it became an obsession, and occasionally I think back to those times and say’ what the fuck ', I cant believe that was my life. I wanted to jump out of my own fucking skin, if that sounds relateable.

I had most if not all the symptoms, including changes to my penis–it looked like a 90 year old mans to be honest.

As for the Drugs, I dont put much of my recovery on them. I took Clomid 12.5 mg 3x a week for only about 4 months, spiked my T to about 600, then went off. My T went down to about 500 (which it was before taking the clomid anyways). So endocrinally speaking, I did not change in the long run.

I do live a healthier lifetstyle, I try to lift weights and be active, but honestly, who can say this is the magic formula? I mean living healthy would probably help any number of different health afflications, right?

Either way, my erections are (again, I never used to really examine and fret about it) hard as ever, (I think, bc I truly never paid attn to it before, whereas I do now).

This ordeal has not allowed me to come away unscathed however, I carry the scars on my soul (as ridiculous as that may sound) everyday. I can never forget those aweful times, thinking about jumping–literally.

But overall, I consider myself lucky to be alive. And the advantage (if you can call it that) is that I feel I can achieve anything now. I dont ‘give a fuck’ about failing anymore, bc nothing can be worse than what I went through. What WE ARE ALL GOING through

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#52

As for the question about taking Meds,
I literally have only taken maybe one advil for a splitting headache in the last two years.
I am done, unless its life saving, I am not interested!

#53

Sounds like a hardcore pfs case. If you can stomach it you should tell your story on the pfs podcast.

Best wishes.

#54

Yeah, but do you attribute much of your improvements to clomid and arimidex?

Interesting you got the changes to genital structure down below too. Anything else you think helped in terms of meds/supplements/lifestyle?

#55

Congrats 12345! Thank you for not trying to attribute your recovery to some random BS protocol if you really think time was the critical factor. We have enough PFS messiahs as it is.

Now go have fun with your family!

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#56

Thanks guys

I really dont feel that any meds really did anything for me. Like I said, the end result was the same endocrine profile that I had at the start of the drug protocols.

I dont have any particular snake oil or supplement that works

I do take Vitamin D 5000IU per day however, and that has been fairly constant, but hardly proof of causality.

I really think many of you will get better, bc, as cliche as this sounds, if I fucking got better, as fucked up as I was—I lost everything man, my career at the time time included–than I feel many of you can too.

One thing I hated was actually being on this site–its sort of a love hate relationship i suppose…you want to feel like your not alone, but all I felt after being on here was more anxiety, more hopelessness…thats just me. I know taking a break from all the negativity probably helped.
I dont speak in absulutes, bc truly, I really cant prove what worked or what didnt. I ‘feel’, that time and healthy living was the most important factor, and having the strength to NOT kill myself. Thats it.

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#57

bump…

can i ask if you had any Physical changes like:

-facial wasting (loss of masculine bone-structure/ loss of facial fat) and

  • penis wasting (real loss of penile tissue, flaccid or erect shrinkage?)
  • muscle wasting (loss of muscle, around the neck, forearms, wrists, etc)

If so did they regrow?

thanks for answering more specifically.

#58

I did have some penile changes, and just a very feminine body. I still have a little gyno thats left, but I think that is going to stick around—its minor and really doesnt bother me

I wanted to post in the recovery section, but the moderator on this site prevents me from doing so, i have no idea why. I want more of you guys to see and read this. Positivity is infectious

#59

New posts aren’t allowed in the recovery section because a lot of shifty people with zero other posts would post in there, trying to sell this product or represent that doctor. It’d be hell to moderate. I have a feeling if you contacted mew and explained your recovery progress and started a thread briefly detailing your experiences it’d likely make it into the recovery section when mew has some time.

#60

Right Chris, because there is a link between eating grass and brain damage.